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Revived wrote:
mkot wrote:Saberestar wrote:
They are my favorite in the West to go to the Finals over OKC now. Good work by the league to make the Lakers a focal point AGAIN.****.
Who's gonna guard SGA? Austin Reaves? Gabe Vincent?
This team as constructed right now still have too many holes on defense, they won't go far.
Saberestar wrote:thamadkant wrote:Saberestar wrote:Gambo said that we probably use Allen or O'Neale (or Nurkic) to get a player probably in the $10M-$15M range that could help us at PF.
Adding a PF doesnt solve the slow predictable offense that literally rely on two players to create or find spot shooters. Defend that strategy and Suns struggle.
I want to say its Bud and his system, but we've seen this same offense and defense under Vogel and even Monty. 3 different coaches but the system hardly changes. The common denominator is the duo of Booker and KD....
Well, probably trading for a solid PF wouldn't make a huge impact on the team but we could be a more balanced team and just improve our roster.
Some names that fit the position and salary:
Jared Vanderbilt (Lakers), $10.7M +3 years.
Larry Nance Jr (Hawks), $11.2M expiring.
Obi Toppin (Pacers), $13M +3 years.
Patrick Williams (Bulls), $18M +4 years.
Bobby Portis (Bucks), $12.6M +1 year.
Brandon Clarke (Grizzlies), $12.5M +2 years.
Probably Toppin, Vanderbilt and Williams fit the mold better because we are trying to get a PF who can play some SF too. We will see.
Sunsdeuce wrote:I’ve grown to really despise Booker. He makes this team unwatchable. And his attitude just makes me want not care about this team at all!
sunsbg wrote:Dodged the Butler bullet. Now blow this **** up in the offseason after not making the playoffs. Start the damn rebuild.
NavLDO wrote:Saberestar wrote:thamadkant wrote:
Adding a PF doesnt solve the slow predictable offense that literally rely on two players to create or find spot shooters. Defend that strategy and Suns struggle.
I want to say its Bud and his system, but we've seen this same offense and defense under Vogel and even Monty. 3 different coaches but the system hardly changes. The common denominator is the duo of Booker and KD....
Well, probably trading for a solid PF wouldn't make a huge impact on the team but we could be a more balanced team and just improve our roster.
Some names that fit the position and salary:
Jared Vanderbilt (Lakers), $10.7M +3 years.
Larry Nance Jr (Hawks), $11.2M expiring.
Obi Toppin (Pacers), $13M +3 years.
Patrick Williams (Bulls), $18M +4 years.
Bobby Portis (Bucks), $12.6M +1 year.
Brandon Clarke (Grizzlies), $12.5M +2 years.
Probably Toppin, Vanderbilt and Williams fit the mold better because we are trying to get a PF who can play some SF too. We will see.
Whoever has the best chance at outrebounding their opponent, to get us more 2nd and 3rd chance shots, is who I'd target. As was mentioned in few pages back in the older thread, we were outshot by 32 attempts last night...hard to win that way. On the season, we are like bottom 5 or 6 in total attempts, which pairs nicely with a similar ranking for rebounding. We have good shooters, but not that good.
Also...can the Suns still claim to have a "Big 3", when one of those 3 come off the bench???
I know our troubles run deeper than just this, but it would, at least, be a good place to start, no??
BobbieL wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:I’ve grown to really despise Booker. He makes this team unwatchable. And his attitude just makes me want not care about this team at all!
He and Durant are the problems
Not Beal
bullsaficianado wrote:Revived wrote:
I think it's safe to say now the CP3 for Beal trade ruined the KD and Booker era of Suns basketball. Just ridiculous you had two months to get a player like Butler and could not because of Beal's NTC. Than out of desperation field offers for Durant. Now Durant is likely to be pissed.
sashaturiaf wrote:Do the right thing Ishbia. Book or KD to the Rockets for our picks back and a young player or two in the next 24 hours.
Press the reset button before it gets too late. This team is going nowhere
bullsaficianado wrote:Great so they traded that 2031 unprotected first for seemingly nothing. They better make at least one trade before the deadline.
bullsaficianado wrote:BobbieL wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:I’ve grown to really despise Booker. He makes this team unwatchable. And his attitude just makes me want not care about this team at all!
He and Durant are the problems
Not Beal
Booker should be a Sun for life. I would never trade him but Durant is definitely going to want out this summer after they fielded offers for him from Warriors and Heat. Suns are stuck with Beal.
sashaturiaf wrote:Do the right thing Ishbia. Book or KD to the Rockets for our picks back and a young player or two in the next 24 hours.
Press the reset button before it gets too late. This team is going nowhere
Sunsdeuce wrote:bullsaficianado wrote:BobbieL wrote:
He and Durant are the problems
Not Beal
Booker should be a Sun for life. I would never trade him but Durant is definitely going to want out this summer after they fielded offers for him from Warriors and Heat. Suns are stuck with Beal.
Booker should definitely NOt be a Suns for life! Give him his little tribute video and send his ass packing. He’s not beloved in Phx like Majerle, Barkley, Fitzgerald or Shane Doan. The franchise nor the city owes anything to him!