ill take the bait, heres my response point for point
Please....don't preach to me about 'how lucky' I am to be a fan of the Suns...
They are the ones that are lucky.
oh yeah, im sure they get up in the morning and say grace at the table whilst thanking the lord that frank lee is a fan of the suns.
Winnign is alot of what its all about, but the fact is that that doesnt happen till june, why are you watching now? because there is more to a season than just the finals. we have so much fun and we get to watch some of the most entertaining basketball because we are lucky enough to be suns fans, if you dont think so and you cant enjoy it, then i just pity you
there is a BIG picture, it would be nice to win, but even if we dont that doesnt make us any less lucky to be a suns fan. does it make it frustrating? yes, but so be it
Maybe when you get into your 4th decade of support, you might know what I am talking about.
age explains the stubbornness and the negativity
Facts are...
this team IS experiencing chemistry problems... y'all willingly point that out...then conveniently say it will be OK come playoff time.Well here is a newsflash,....most 'chemistry' problems are solved by getting rid of the 'problems'...if you think these primadonas will just kiss and make up, you are mistaken. Just ask JJ or Shaq. This is as big of an issue as anything. We have gone from team-sings to team stings. It is pathetic how it has deteriorated...or maybe it was just masked well all along. Maybe Marion needs to go, and quickly. Its BS is what it is...and it is very detrimental.
i dont know how you work, but im my experience, little tiffs and personality issues can be resolved between ADULTS amicably with a little effort from both parties. you dont have to go trading someone every time people dont get on. ive noticed some chemistry things, but nothing seems unresolvable. if this team goes on a win streak everything dissapears. its like the regular season is a chore now because all the suns want to do is get back to where we lost last year and start again
so every regular season win is nothing, like "whatever lets get to the playoffs" and every loss is frustrating, so there is hardly any celebration and that seems to be bringing things down for sure, NOT unfixable
this team plays w o e f u l defense. sure, thay manage to muster up a few good intense minutes a game...but defense is based on consistancy, and we have yet to play a good game of D, let alone a good quarter. It is said, defense wins championships...I didn't say it... some other whiner must have.
we are improved on last year and last years team was good enough for a title. were an offensive team, thats our style, so be it
this team does not rebound the ball well. We are undersized, outhustled, and have poor fundamentals. Night in night out, we get beat up on the offensive glass. Our fast break opportunities have been reduced by the oppositions' attitude that we are softies in the paint, and the key to beating us, is to crash the boards.
we give up 6 more boards per game, we MUST box out and get the hustle boards more, agreed. it IS a key to beating us, but we have consistently won games whilst being outrebounded so its not the be all and end all. for every board we get outrebounded by ldue to going small we probably gain 4 points at the other end for being hard to defend
This team is a yr older. Raja has been breaking down like an old dodge...two yrs running.
he needs to get cracking - i cite bells lack of 3 point shooting as our biggest issue right now to the point where i would start barbs till bells shooting comes back
] Diaw has regressed and now is practically a project player, trying to find decent contribution minutes.
i dont think he has regressed as much as his role has regressed. You yourself must admit that diaw has looked far more aggressive in his last 10 games and when it starts going for him he should be improved on last season and early this season
Barbo has stagnated and appears to be comfortable being a chucker.
its what we tell him to do. when his shot is falling we hail him a hero. he is a great spark off the bench, but we do need to change his role to stop him being PG and to not always take the first shot. i dont mind him shooting, but i want it to go through some hands first
Marion continues his Space Ghost routine of now you see him, now you don't.
i think marion has been having a career year, not statistically, but his defense has been a level above anything i have ever seen from him
Stat gets ignored, then frustrated, then fouls.
agreed we need to feed him more
Atleast Nash and Hill are professionals.
how are skinner bell amare marion diaw and barbs not?
this team's front office has done little or nothing over the past 3 yrs but spin out pseudopositive press releases... we have stripped our cupboards bare in order to save a buck...let trade exceptions expire...dealt away youth...signed up ancient ineffective warriors...bungled free agency signings, and over paid for talent. (Oh...but we got Grant Hill because he was willing to take pennies on his dollar). Do you think that will change?
please tell me what massive moves the lakers, pistons, and spurs made in comparison? when you are a great team you dont need to trade every year. fact is we dont want to pay the tax, do i wish we would, SURE, but we wont, at least we kept the top 7 players on our team. sure we traded non rotation guys and draft picks, but oh well, we dont play non rotation guys and draft picks aim to be low if we are a champion. i am glad that in this era of penny pinching in phoenix we have managed not to trade marion amare nash or bell and bring in a cheap option just to save $$. There were people who said we could never keep nash amare and marion, well we did and im extremely happy about that
We are in need of some help right now...but don't have the balls to pay for it, nor the assets to acquire it. SOUND FAMILIAR? Yeah...and I am the lucky one.
please tell me 5 other teams in the league today whos fans are luckier than ours right now (dont bring up BS past titles, im talking about today - competing for the 08 title)
this team gets out coached....and I am not the only one who brings that up. Pops and the Zenguin just lick their chops when they face MikeyD and his one dimensional mindset.
yeah, thats right, phil jackson LOVES getting eliminated from the playoffs by us the last 2 years in a row. i LOVE how people can only name 2 coaches, 2 HALL OF FAME coaches who out coach us. If they are the only 2 coaches better than dantoni out there then dantoni is doing an awesome job. its like comparing Tmac to Kobe. One is great, but the other is just a whole lot more accomplished. Does that mean that the lesser one is a dud? no, its just that hes not an all time great like the other one
We also lost Ivaroni. Who may have been more influential than what some will admit.
go back to the thread where ivaroni left, i thought and still think that this was a HUGE loss
this teams fan base has been anesthetized to accept a bridesmaid mentality. The arena has long since lost the 'madhouse' mentality. The media dances around like yesmen, conditioned from yrs of praising the wonders of the ColonJellos...and now remain nuetered. A playoff run is a successful season. Dare anyone to question...anyone to doubt...without being labeled a Judas. Much like around here.
winning means the world, but 29 teams dont win the title every year. i want to win one desperately, but honestly, if you cant find something to enjoy from every suns game win lose or draw, then once again, i pity you. alot of close calls will make people hurt, it will dishearten people, so be it, its the teams job to pick the fans back up now. you might label a post season run a success, but dont you dare say for a second that that is what the players coaches and management think.
You want to call me a whiner....fine...put on yer shades, rub yer rabbits foot, and repeat after me...there is no place like home...there is no place like home....
you can act like a realist all you want, pretty much everyone knows you as captain negative around here, and besides, i choose to live my life as if the glass is half full.
I am an observer...with yrs of solar experience... and I don't see this team, in its present shape, has anymore of a chance than Utah, the fLakers, or Portland for that matter. We are ripe for the first round ouster.
BS we are a level above the jazz lakers and blazers
we arent up on the spurs pistons and celtics level like i thought we would be by now, but i still believe this current team can and will be there by the end of the season so that right now realistically puts us on the level with the mavs, hornets, rockets, nuggets etc as second round / third round ousters
slight improvement in some small areas should help us go to third / fourth round competitors, but i do admit if it started today we wouldnt be there yet
and these are just the fact mam.
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