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Would you do this deal? (Based on Rumors and Needs)

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:28 am
by gr3en
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LINEUP AFTER
Wallace - Noah - Gray
Gasol - Skinner - Cardinal
Deng - Griffin - Nichols
Thabo - Gordon
Hinrich - Armstrong - Curry

PROs
- Get Gasol w/o giving up Gordon/Deng/Hinrich/Noah
CONs
- Re-signing Deng and Gordon gets a little bit complicated
- Have to take on Brian Cardinal's contract
Possible Follow-up Trades for Financial Flexibility
- Ben Wallace to NY for Malik Rose(1 yr remaining) + Fred Jones(expiring) + Filler(Jerome James? haha. ok maybe not)

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LINEUP AFTER
S.Williams - Boone
Marion - Allen
Nocioni - Nachbar
Carter - Wright - Strawberry
Kidd - Stoudamire - M.Williams

PROs
- Nets get a pair of combo forwards who could excel in an uptempo system w/ Kidd, Carter and S. Williams (Suns of the East)
- get rid of Collins
- don't have to give up too much young talent(Marcus,Sean,Boone,Wright,Boki)
- upgrade back-up PG position w/ Stoudamire
CONs
- might not be able to re-sign Marion
- give up Kristic

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LINEUP AFTER
Darko - Swift - Magloire
Kristic - Smith - Brown
Gay - Warrick - Khyrapa
Miller - Jacobsen - Jones
Conley - Navarro - Lowry - Duhon

PROs
- get a ton of expiring contracts to open up around $20M worth of cap space for the FA Market
- get Kristic who could form a nice young Euro 1-2 punch with Darko in the PF/C spots
- get rid of Cardinal and Stoudamire's contracts
CONs
- Kristic's knee conditioning could be a concern, however, based on latest reports he seems to be recovering well

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LINEUP AFTER
Phoenix
Amare - Collins - Marks
Diaw - Tyrus
Jefferson - Hill - Tucker
Bell - Barbosa - Piatkowski
Nash - Banks

PROs
- they get a solid replacement for Marion in local Arizona product Richard Jefferson
- they get a young combo forward with jumping and rebounding similar to a young Marion in Tyrus Thomas
- they get a decent post defender they can throw at Duncan etc come playoff time
CONs
- take on Jason Collins' contract

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:28 pm
by Togo
if we could trade Jefferson to Utah for Kirilenko, and get Noah instead of Thomas I would be more interested.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:42 pm
by gr3en
I think Utah could bite on that swap; however, I dont think Chicago would deal Noah. Maybe if you send them Atlanta's pick. But, Noah's been playing good lately and Chicago is high on him despite the conflicts they had recently.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:20 pm
by movingaz
Very nice job on the trade details and pics.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:21 pm
by asubennett
movingaz wrote:Very nice job on the trade details and pics.


I actually like the trade a lot. Tyrus has amazing potential and raw fire. I think he would thrive in Dantonis system to the point that Chicago would kick themselve for getting rid of him.

I like Jefferson a lot as well. He is versatile with his length where he can defend a lot of different areas. Not as well as Marion, but well enough. I like how this improves us now and for the future.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:40 pm
by Sun Scorched
Good for the future, but I don't like giving up Strawberry at all. Doesn't win us a title.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:56 pm
by dm17415
No thanks.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:49 pm
by rsavaj
dm17415 wrote:No thanks.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:05 pm
by GoDogGo
I don't like having to pay Collins $6 mil for 2 more yrs. If we did that, why did we trade KT and 2 1sts?
Plus we don't get rid of any of our bad contracts.
We will keep DJ thank you, you can have Piat, and keep Collins, we will take Noc.
So NJ gives up RJ and gets Noc, DJ, and Marion? :rofl:

And why does Memphis do this trade?
Sorry, I like the effort, but hate the trade. :nonono:

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:13 am
by gr3en
What if you guys keep DJ get Stoudamire and NJ gets Banks instead?

Also, would you guys be willing to send Atlanta's pick to Memphis?

Thanks

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:30 am
by mkot
For the 3498752394th time, I wouldn't give up anything significant just to get Tyrus Thomas here. He is a long and athletic, but his work ethic and IQ is extremely suspect.

NJ eats this deal. Chicago drools. Phoenix laughs. Memphis says F you.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:41 am
by gr3en
mkot wrote:For the 3498752394th time, I wouldn't give up anything significant just to get Tyrus Thomas here. He is a long and athletic, but his work ethic and IQ is extremely suspect.

NJ eats this deal. Chicago drools. Phoenix laughs. Memphis says F you.


You do get R.Jefferson don't you? You also get rid of Banks in favor of 2 veterans(Collins and Stoudamire) you can use in the playoffs and a former #4 pick who could eventually take Marion's place in the future.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:40 am
by GoDogGo
gr3en wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You do get R.Jefferson don't you? You also get rid of Banks in favor of 2 veterans(Collins and Stoudamire) you can use in the playoffs and a former #4 pick who could eventually take Marion's place in the future.


Collins would have to open a bar at the end of the bench to see any action in PHX. Or maybe he could go out with Diaw, but that is about it.
It just doesn't work for everyone.