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look what has happened to toronto since bryan got there. and look what has happened to us since he left. maybe we can go back in time and not let sarver buy the team. then neither colangelo would be gone.

Well to be perfectly honest they had their fair share of screwups as well(every screwup before 2006), but I do wish that BC was still on board.

Yeah, BC's a genius and it totally sucks that he isn't around anymore.

He made a few bonehead moves while he was in AZ, and continues 2 do so in Toronto (I.E takin Bargnani with the first pick), but overall he was and is a great GM who usually made the the right moves

The biggest blunder BC did was trading the 04 lottery pick which would've looked really good right now.

So how many championship did the C's bring to the suns orgnization? Yeah, thats right, same as sarver and Kerr. BC has some good, and bad with his moves. I will never consider him a great gm, but a good one at best for now. I really don't care if BC was here because I really do not see that much differnce a GM could have done to get this team to play better. Yeah, he might have not made the shaq trade, but at least Kerr had some balls to do something different. To me, it is up to the players and coach to get this right. We do not know what we could have got, but can speculate at best. But we all know this team as it was, was not going to win it all.

eastsidecrossover wrote:So how many championship did the C's bring to the suns orgnization? Yeah, thats right, same as sarver and Kerr. BC has some good, and bad with his moves. I will never consider him a great gm, but a good one at best for now. I really don't care if BC was here because I really do not see that much differnce a GM could have done to get this team to play better. Yeah, he might have not made the shaq trade, but at least Kerr had some balls to do something different. To me, it is up to the players and coach to get this right. We do not know what we could have got, but can speculate at best. But we all know this team as it was, was not going to win it all.

I 100% disagree. I don't care if I'm the only one, but I thought we had a shot, however small, however miniscule, we still had a shot.

Let's not forget that last year, with small ball, we were a couple of suspensions away from a ring. And I'll always believe that, because it is the truth. We had that series, and Stern took it from us and gave it to his team.

So no, I don't believe that they were never gonna win it all.

i want to add that i think letting ivaroni go hurt as well. yes BC made some bad moves but he made many more good ones. he also knew what he was doing. neither mike nor kerr had any front office experiance. who knows, i was drunk when i wrote this in the first place.

Bryan would have done a million things different than D'Antoni and Kerr.. our team would not be what it is now with Bryan pulling the triggers.

We've been selling draft picks since the Colangelos era and those stupid moves are coming back to bite us in the a**. The short-sightedness of this organization has been appalling. Its really disgusting that this team went from such a bright future 3 years ago, to basically having a 1 year window before we're the Grizzlies.

eastsidecrossover wrote:So how many championship did the C's bring to the suns orgnization? Yeah, thats right, same as sarver and Kerr.

Colangelo at least had some success bringing in young players including JoeJ, Amare and LB. What we've got since then? We have an aging roster and in the position of hoping we get lucky with Atlanta's pick.

The only thing I remember about JC was that back in early grade school I saved up to buy a Michael Finely jersey. The SAME DAY that I bought the jersey, the bastard traded him to Dallas! I was pissed.

rsavaj, say what you want, but what happened is how it is. You can't change it and sit back and say what if. Yes, we have had bad luck and most of think we would have had a chance

I also do not buy he would have done a million things different. As mkot said, they have been doing this even before BC "left" us......remember? Yeah, in a middle of a contract too.

Don't forget guys, its only been 4 years and there winning % is a lot higher than the C's running this organization. Yes, I know what they have done for this organization. I have been a fan for 28 years, and have been born and raised here in the valley. What I am saying is all I care about is a championship. The C's did not do that. They got us close, brought in horrible players. They got lucky that Isaiah was willing to be the suns best GM by taking on all of our bad contracts, and rebuilding.

As we all know, they have tried with this team, and keep them together. I do not like many of the moves they have made, but the C

Kurt Thomas in the lineup was pimp.

b-ball forever wrote:Yeah, BC's a genius and it totally sucks that he isn't around anymore......

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187_Inc wrote:The only thing I remember about JC was that back in early grade school I saved up to buy a Michael Finely jersey. The SAME DAY that I bought the jersey, the bastard traded him to Dallas! I was pissed.

Thats funny & sad. I almost got a Finley jersey too, I also wanted a Richard Dumas Jersey but thankfully I with KJ instead.