Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:45 pm
by impulsenine
From that same article:
In the 23 games since Shaquille O
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:24 pm
by -SDU-
where to start....
it all began in that pistons game, since then its been bad towards the suns ever since
if (more like when, with the sweep under the carpet attitude stern took to the last one) another ref conspiracy comes out, dont be suprised to see if it had something to do with the suns and this stretch of games
the umpiring has been so rubbish its not even funny and i genuinely believe an investigation is needed. I truly hope kerr is liaising with the NBA about this
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:29 pm
by -SDU-
this is EXACTLY what i pointed out during the game thread yesterday, it was audible as hell and directly AT the ref
i truly want a please explain from the NBA about it
this is from Charley Rosens article
# Even though the elbows were flying throughout the game, and several players were blatantly shoved to the floor, Raja Bell (the Suns best defender) was nailed with a second T and banished for grinning too broadly after being whistled for a marginal foul.
# Just a few minutes later, Iverson drove, was hit, and no whistle sounded. Yet A.I. was not penalized in any way when he turned to the nearest ref and said this: "(Bleep) you, man!"
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:35 pm
by -SDU-
Gambo was saying today that Stu Jackson admitted bell shouldnt have been ejected
firstly, its nice to see Stu make the right call for once, but secondly, what will happen? will the ref be disciplined? this is a vital game that could have cost us home court advantage in the second round (by winning the division)
what are they going to do about blatant bias against the suns?
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:43 pm
by mkot
Rosen again wrote an article about the Suns after they lost. What a surprise
When a known Suns hater thinks the officiating is bad against the Suns, then you know the officiating last night was really REALLY bad.
And remember the previous game against the Nuggs Nash just walked over and talked calmly that's a T. Was that really worse than AI's screaming F you blatantly at a ref? Raja smiles that's a T AND an ejection. Amare makes a face or flaps his arms and that is a T.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:42 am
by impulsenine
mkot wrote:Rosen again wrote an article about the Suns after they lost. What a surprise
When a known Suns hater thinks the officiating is bad against the Suns, then you know the officiating last night was really REALLY bad.
+1. I had to read that a few times, because I'm not sure I've ever seen Rosen give the Suns an inch.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Transparency is the obvious, most-effective, and clear (no pun intended) solution to this.
Anyone else think that the fan perception of the NBA would skyrocket if we just knew what the fleck they were thinking, how they're trained, and so on?
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:59 am
by Mr. Sun
NBA officiating is giving the game a black-eye.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:26 am
by impulsenine
Wow, tonight the Raptors got screwed in spectacular fashion by the refs:
ESPN replay
They don't really go into the details, but here's what happened: Toronto had the ball with 0.5 seconds left on their side of the court. T.J. Ford got a
beautiful alley-oop to win the game, but it was called off.
The reason was because the shot clock started early. Also, 0.5 is plenty of time to do an alley-oop; if you can turn around and do a jump shot legally in 0.3, and an alley-oop in 0.1 (according to the NBA rules), 0.5 should be no big deal.
The Atlanta board is basically saying that the refs made the decision to waive the shot (not their scorekeepers, the same people who spectacularly botched the Miami-Atlanta game that ended up being replayed). Either way, though, they got screwed bad.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:36 am
by Mr. Sun
^^ I don't think the officials looked at when the clock started, or when should had started. Raps have an excellent chance on appeal.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:16 am
by -SDU-
and of course who does this in turn screw over?? the suns who need atlanta to miss the playoffs for a higher draft pick
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:18 am
by -SDU-
watching the replay, whats worse is that there was .8 of a second left when the ball had finished going through the net
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:46 am
by NaplesSunsFan
This is what Bill Simmons (A self admitted Celtics Freak) had to say about phoenix's biggest weakness going into the playoffs..
Biggest weakness: Other than the obvious defensive deficiencies with Nash (and to a lesser extent, Barbosa and Amare), you know what's weird about this team? They never, ever, EVER seem to get calls in big moments. You'd think with good guys like Nash, Shaq and Hill that the refs would be falling all over themselves to favor Phoenix, but it's actually the opposite -- for instance, in that Detroit game this week, the Suns lost in overtime because of three indefensibly horrible calls in a row. We might see Mike D'Antoni pistol whip a referee before everything's said and done this season.
He goes on about Shaq...
(Follow-up tangent: It's incredible to me that Shaq, one of the 12 greatest players of all-time, doesn't get any respect from the refs at this stage of his career. Remember the way Kareem was treated from 1985 to 1989? You couldn't breathe on him without getting a foul, which made no sense because nobody liked Kareem! Meanwhile, everyone loves Shaq and he gets called like he's Jamaal Magloire. It's legitimately bizarre. Even Reggie Miller was getting every call at the end of his career, and he wasn't one-fourth of the player that Shaq was. I don't get it.)
I'm not sure if it was Mkot or Impulse who said it best..
I'm not conspiracy theory boy, but this is f-ing bull
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:48 am
by NaplesSunsFan
He said that /before/ the last Denver game, by the way. The article was posted March 27th...
It's a great layout of the west..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ons/080326
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 10:59 am
by scootfu602
mkot wrote:WELCOME TO THE CLUB
Dan D
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 11:46 am
by Frank Lee
I'll say it again...the refs get tired of Whining Mikey D... he is relentless.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:37 pm
by impulsenine
NaplesSunsFan, thanks for finding that article. I had read it and spent like a half-hour trying to find it.
Plus, the mental image of D'Antoni pistol-whipping a ref after a bad call is one I cherish.
Frank Lee wrote:I'll say it again...the refs get tired of Whining Mikey D... he is relentless.
You're probably right, to an extent - but how thick-headed do you have to be to confuse Mike D'Antoni's yelling with Grant Hill?
Edited because I didn't emphasize the point enough ...
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:45 pm
by scootfu602
Surely D'Antoni doesn't get on the refs any more than any other coach.