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Just wanted to let you know that everyone in Laker land is pushing Buss to make your trainers an offer they can't refuse. We'll pay your trainers triple what they are making now. I think we are the only team in the league that has to have an Injury thread "stickied".

You guys are blessed indeed....

Now excuse me while I go smoke on some of Phil's peyote and meditate, praying that Bynum can give us anything in the playoffs....

keep dreamin.......... with amare nash shaq hill, the trainers are in heaven in phoenix

Seriously, Aaron Nelson and the training crew are awesome. Their, what is it? Optimal Performance Training program or whatever it's called, it's outstanding and cutting edge.

I will be very upset if I hear about any horse's decapitations because of L.A.

Isometrics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometrics

IIRC that is what the training staff bases their program on.

PHXfan85 wrote:Isometrics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometrics

IIRC that is what the training staff bases their program on.

I used to take martial arts training from this iranian guy in his early 40's. He's been a good friend for a couple of years. He has a black belt in brazilian jiu jitsu, taekwando, muay thai(I don't think they have belts but he has many years of training in it), kali and judo. Anyways the guy was a freaking beast. He did nothing but bodyweight exercises, isometric exercises and lots of cardio. At the time I was bench pressing 375lbs, squatting and deadlifting over 500lbs. I was pretty damn strong.

We used to do this exercise where we would force the other person backwards and the other person would try to stay in place. He weighs about 195-200lbs and I weigh about 225lbs. He had a much easier time moving me than I had moving him. I had to use all my strength and struggled to move him back. It almost seemed effortless to him.

The guy was in far better shape at 42 than I was at 23. That has always amazed me. He always told me that isometrics were just as if not more important than free weight training. Considering the fact that he could maybe bench press 205lbs and still tossed me around like I was a rag-doll, it's probably true.

Isometrics focus on a lot of oft-overlooked muscle groups, like core muscles and smaller muscles. It's almost never about muscle size but proper balance and fine control.

The best example would be the glute msucle that was bothering Shaq, or ensuring core stability and even distribution of weight throughout your body, etc.

Isometrics isn't the term, though, it's Optimal Performance Training.

Click here for a little paper about the NBA Knee.

You can also look here, though that's a Wikipedia entry. It still discusses Nelson and Doctor Clark.

And last but not least, here is an SI article that mentions it and that initially informed me and caused me to look into it.

So yeah, OPT, Optimum Performance Training.

tsherkin wrote:Isometrics focus on a lot of oft-overlooked muscle groups, like core muscles and smaller muscles. It's almost never about muscle size but proper balance and fine control.

The best example would be the glute msucle that was bothering Shaq, or ensuring core stability and even distribution of weight throughout your body, etc.

Isometrics isn't the term, though, it's Optimal Performance Training.

Click here for a little paper about the NBA Knee.

You can also look here, though that's a Wikipedia entry. It still discusses Nelson and Doctor Clark.

And last but not least, here is an SI article that mentions it and that initially informed me and caused me to look into it.

So yeah, OPT, Optimum Performance Training.

I think it's becoming more and more popular to look at the big picture. You can use powerlifting as an example as well. Louis Simmons was one of the first to look at the entire body when it came to powerlifting. Most people think that to get a stronger bench they should just bench press. Louis took it farther than that. He looked at what muscles are used in supporting the weight, along with pushing and controlling it. Hence the reason why they train back so much.

Everyone is going to have their weak points. It might be the lockout, it might be middle of the press, it might be pressing from the chest. The key is to find the weakness and pay a little more attention to that area.

Absolutely; I think isometrics is something contained within the general OPT approach, it's definitely smart.

Do you think that as a result, we'll be able to expect more 30-37-year-old players to be playing well? How does that affect the league?

impulsenine wrote:Do you think that as a result, we'll be able to expect more 30-37-year-old players to be playing well? How does that affect the league?

I think that the quality of Phoenix's training staff makes it more likely that they'll sign older players, yes. They've shown a very clear ability to revitalize those guys and I think it'll be something of a trend, though I should hope that the front office won't ignore youth in the process.

I think Phoenix's training staff is excellent for the team, really, since it gives them options that the rest of the league would not be able to exploit as effectively. I don't know how it'll affect the rest of the league, I suppose that depends on how quickly the practices spread, if they do.

Anyone have a picture of that Colorado Athletic Training chamber the Suns use?

Doesn't also having light practices contribute into the health and wellness of the players?

I should say it helps those who are older. Obviously I would think practices and conditioning would help the younger players.

And yet, we couldn't stop the f'n bleeding of a certain nose last year.

BurningHeart wrote:And yet, we couldn't stop the f'n bleeding of a certain nose last year.

I lol'ed on that one.

Here's a thought:

Shawn Marion was known for how he basically never missed games, despite being a hustle player. He also had the Suns training staff for the duration of his career. Coincidence? No way.

Also, Leandro Barbosa is in the same situation...

impulsenine wrote:Here's a thought:

Shawn Marion was known for how he basically never missed games, despite being a hustle player. He also had the Suns training staff for the duration of his career. Coincidence? No way.

Also, Leandro Barbosa is in the same situation...

and since going to the heat Shawn is in bad shape with the back right?

You guys definitely have a great staff and program.

i doubt marion is that bad right now though, im sure the heat are just tanking

-SDU- wrote:i doubt marion is that bad right now though, im sure the heat are just tanking

Heats practices are like 4 hours and they wear kneepads. Yeah, he is bad right now.

-SDU- wrote:i doubt marion is that bad right now though, im sure the heat are just tanking

My thoughts exactly. The insider kinda confirmed they were keeping Shaq in cotton wool just in case a trade came up. They have been tanking all year once they got off to a bad start lets not kid ourselves.