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Allan Houston?

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 1:10 am
by tsherkin
Ye gads, another old guy.... Well, he could certainly shoot in his day but even healthy, he was always a terrible defender.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 1:21 am
by The Nash Era
I'm not sure how you're interpreting this, but do you think that they're considering signing him??

I think he just came in to ask if they can help him in any way since we're practically gods at helping players recover from injuries.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 1:29 am
by mkot
The Nash Era wrote:
I think he just came in to ask if they can help him in any way since we're practically gods at helping players recover from injuries.


Exactly what I thought after reading the article.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 1:32 am
by tsherkin
The Nash Era wrote:I'm not sure how you're interpreting this, but do you think that they're considering signing him??

I think he just came in to ask if they can help him in any way since we're practically gods at helping players recover from injuries.


I suspect it's just a health evaluation, of course, but there's a little voice in the back of my head...

To be frank, I don't even remember if he's a valid signing for the playoffs at this date, so it's not a huge concern, I just thought it was funny.

It makes less sense the more I think about it, given that they recently acquired Giricek, though, so probably not.

I was just like "Oh look, an Allan Houston sighting!" and I remembered that he tried to make a comeback this year.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 2:10 am
by Mr. Sun
What, Suns becoming rest home for the NBA's elderly?

Re: Allan Houston?

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 2:20 am
by a-rod
tsherkin wrote:Ye gads, another old guy.... Well, he could certainly shoot in his day but even healthy, he was always a terrible defender.

Really? when i was 18 i use to think he was a lack down defender :lol:

i have to ask kincks fans.

Re: Allan Houston?

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 2:39 am
by tsherkin
a-rod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Really? when i was 18 i use to think he was a lack down defender :lol:

i have to ask kincks fans.


Houston? Really?? I remember him trying hard but largely sucking for lack of body mass and unimpressive lateral quicks.

EDIT: I remember him not being a great defender in Detroit, that's for sure. I think it's easier to mistake his impact on New York because JVG generally ran a very good team defensive concept, accommodating individuals a little better. Sprewell was a good defender and they had Ewing or Camby, Oakley, Kurt Thomas, etc.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:09 am
by chrice
I don't remember Houston being a good defender either. I remember he was a great 3 point shooter and that he was tall for his position back then, but never known for his athleticism or defense. Are you sure you're not talking about McDyess?

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 5:33 am
by asudevil
tsherkin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I suspect it's just a health evaluation, of course, but there's a little voice in the back of my head...

To be frank, I don't even remember if he's a valid signing for the playoffs at this date, so it's not a huge concern, I just thought it was funny.

It makes less sense the more I think about it, given that they recently acquired Giricek, though, so probably not.

I was just like "Oh look, an Allan Houston sighting!" and I remembered that he tried to make a comeback this year.


March 1st was the deadline for that. just a little late for either Houston or the Suns to think about.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 5:53 am
by tsherkin
asudevil wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



March 1st was the deadline for that. just a little late for either Houston or the Suns to think about.


Yeah, I thought so... my brain is only half here today on account of this essay on which I'm working and the incredibly late nights I've pulled the last few days.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 6:38 am
by GoDogGo
asudevil wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



March 1st was the deadline for that. just a little late for either Houston or the Suns to think about.


Not that it really matters, but the March 1st deadline was for players that HAD to be waived by in order to be picked up for the playoffs. Since Allan was not with a team, not sure if there is a rule for him.

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2008 7:13 am
by Never Fear 33 Is Here
^^^ That is correct. As far as I am aware there isn't a date, other than the end of the season that will stop any player being able to play on a playoff roster.

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 12:07 am
by -SDU-
^ you and godoggo are correct, houston is eligible to play in the playoffs if a team signed him (though i totally believe this workout was at allans request not the suns, but i believe there is another deadline also that players need to be signed by to be active for the playoff roster, but i think its only like 3 days before the regular season ends

for the record, pike is out of contract, as is marks at the end of the season, if houston had something left in the tank, i would take him

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 12:20 am
by tsherkin
If Phoenix's staff can revitalize him, he's a nasty shooter and only as bad on D as Giricek, Pike and the rest of the Suns, with a few exceptions...

D'Antoni might even play him because he's a vet.

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 12:36 am
by guaves13
The EVT article made it sound like it was a casual visit with the training staff while AH was visiting GH. Seems like it was just a courtesy exam that could judge if he could ever play again. By next year he will be 38. I don't like his chances.

How does that even work? Wouldn't you have to be an employee of the team for the team medical staff to work on you? The way medical liability is he probably had to fill out a stack of paperwork before they could even touch him.

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 1:00 am
by -SDU-
surely its no different to a friend taking a look at your car without being a mechanic?

just take an off the record look, dont do anythng major, let him know where the cause of his pain might be coming from etc

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:51 am
by Jemini80
you guys acquired Shaq, which makes me want you guys to win a championship. If you got Houston on your team I would hope you never make the playoffs ever again, since he screwed the Knicks by not accepting medical retirement. He is cursed, don't sign him, he will snap his knees in half and end up falling onto Amare's knee in the process ruining his career.

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2008 9:35 am
by Mr. Sun
For those who may had missed this from the Peoples Republic of Arizona:

Former NBA star Allan Houston visited Thursday with the Suns athletic trainers, watched practice with Suns Assistant General Manager Vinny Del Negro and got in an afternoon workout on the court after Phoenix's practice.

It's all exploratory. Houston is visiting former Detroit teammate Grant Hill and wanted to learn what the Suns' renowned medical staff, including National Academy of Sports Medicine President Mike Clark, have done to revive injury-plagued players.

There is a possibility that Houston would return to play next season and the Suns would consider him. Houston turns 37 this month and was considering Phoenix for his fall comeback from a 2005 retirement. He signed with New York but called off his return after one preseason game.

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 1:48 am
by -SDU-
Jemini80 wrote:you guys acquired Shaq, which makes me want you guys to win a championship. If you got Houston on your team I would hope you never make the playoffs ever again, since he screwed the Knicks by not accepting medical retirement. He is cursed, don't sign him, he will snap his knees in half and end up falling onto Amare's knee in the process ruining his career.


lol, yeah it was houston who screwed the knicks..... dam that houston guy!

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:35 am
by tsherkin
Thanks for that blurb, Mr. Sun. So Houston might come back with Phoenix next year rather than this year... which makes more sense, really, if he's thinking about a rehab regimen of some kind under Nelson's guidance.

That'd be pretty sweet, IMO.