GREAT D'Antoni Article (Must Read)
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:16 am
Hey guys,
Here's a GREAT article written by Paul Coro today in which the players (including Shaq) voice their support for Mike D.
Hope you enjoy!
Here's a GREAT article written by Paul Coro today in which the players (including Shaq) voice their support for Mike D.
Hope you enjoy!
Suns General Manager Steve Kerr calling it a non-issue and saying evaluations will come at season's end did not stop the talk.
A convincing Game 4 win did nothing to quell it either.
Now, Suns players are trying to take the public heat off their coach, Mike D'Antoni.
"I've been around a lot of guys, a lot of coaches," Suns center Shaquille O'Neal said. "I think he's the right guy. He really is. He's an excellent, excellent man. He has a great relationship and a great rapport with the players. It's our job to make him look good. They've been looking good the last few years before I got here. They just could never get over the hump but there are a lot of teams that have never got over the hump.
"Mike D is the excellent guy for the job. Luckily, I've been on four championship teams with some great Hall of Fame coaches. I've got to put Mike D in that category. It's never the coach. It's always the players."
O'Neal's theme about the players is similar to that of another past MVP.
"We win as a team," Suns guard Steve Nash said. "We lose as a team. It's near-sighted to put all the blame on him. We've all got to share responsibility in our success and our failures. Look, we've got about 10 plays that could've gone the other way and we would've won Game 1 and he would've been a genius. The truth is never as extreme as it's made out to be. It's always, I think, somewhere in the middle."
Forward Grant Hill said more should be made of the improvement after a huge shift in philosophy with O'Neal.
"I don't think he gets enough credit for the adjustment he's made on the fly," Hill said. "We've changed a lot. We've changed our philosophy, our style of play, our identity with the trade for Shaq. Irrespective of what happens the rest of the way, this team, if we keep it all together, will be better with a training camp."
Hill likely out
Boris Diaw will start again Tuesday, though Hill is not a definite to sit out again with his lower abdominal and groin strain.
D'Antoni said, "I don't think he can play," but Hill is holding out hope. The only problem is he said it felt worse Monday than when he had similar rest between Games 1 and 2.
"It's nice to get out there but you also don't want to be disruptive," Hill said. "You want to make sure the team is prepared without. I think we made good adjustments . . . We'll see where we are come game time."
Hill said diminishing returns of improvement are a concern.
"I'm just a thoroughbred who wants to run," he said. "Whenever the season is over with, hopefully later than sooner, we'll try to figure out what's going on."
Shaq bites
O'Neal on Game 4's Hack-a-Shaq: "I just find it quite funny that when you're up 20 that you do it. It still shows me that I'm the most feared 36-year-old guy on the planet. But I would never do that. I would rather just play somebody and beat them."
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:12 am
O'Neal on Game 4's Hack-a-Shaq: "I just find it quite funny that when you're up 20 that you do it. It still shows me that I'm the most feared 36-year-old guy on the planet. But I would never do that. I would rather just play somebody and beat them."
^Not about D'A, but I laughed at that.
^Not about D'A, but I laughed at that.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:14 am
good article. I would have to agree with what they are saying. He has done a decent job, but I think his players are the ones that have to get the job done, have some pride, play with heart and play smart ball. I disagree with some of his stubborness and style, but he still is one of the better coach's in the league.
The players have to sack up and take the next game. man up and play ball. YOu know the spurs are going to come hard. no quiting like in game 3.
The players have to sack up and take the next game. man up and play ball. YOu know the spurs are going to come hard. no quiting like in game 3.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:03 am
the FO will give ol' D'Antoni one more shot. I herd that Chris Sheridan is saying that if the Suns are knocjed out by San An-tone that Amare will be on the trading block. Does anybody agree with this? I, for one, think it is BS. He is our franchise, and they will just build around him.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:15 am
scootfu602 wrote:the FO will give ol' D'Antoni one more shot. I herd that Chris Sheridan is saying that if the Suns are knocjed out by San An-tone that Amare will be on the trading block. Does anybody agree with this? I, for one, think it is BS. He is our franchise, and they will just build around him.
We can't trade Amare... regardless of his inconsistencies, he is still our most potent offensive weapon, and arguably the most unguardable big man in the league. There'd be no way to truly get equal value for an asset like STAT. Plus he's just one or two steps as a rebounder/defender from becoming what we all hoped he would be. Sometimes greatness just takes some time to develop. Amare will get there.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:24 am
As for something a little more relevant to this thread...
I think Shaq is going a little overboard with his praise for Mike D. You can't lump him in with the rest of the coaches in the "Hall of Fame" category after being here for less than half the season. Mike would need at least one or two Finals appearances before he could even be included in that discussion. But then again, everything that Shaq says should be taken with a grain of salt (see quote about being "most feared 36-year-old on the planet).
It's still nice to see the players get Mike's back though. While I'm not the most ardent D'Antoni supporter, I still feel like he's been scapegoated much more than he's deserved to be. It's highly probable that we would've won the championship last year without the suspensions, and then we wouldn't even be having these arguments now. Who knows, maybe we'll make a historical rally and Mike will be right back in favor with the fickle fans again...
I think Shaq is going a little overboard with his praise for Mike D. You can't lump him in with the rest of the coaches in the "Hall of Fame" category after being here for less than half the season. Mike would need at least one or two Finals appearances before he could even be included in that discussion. But then again, everything that Shaq says should be taken with a grain of salt (see quote about being "most feared 36-year-old on the planet).
It's still nice to see the players get Mike's back though. While I'm not the most ardent D'Antoni supporter, I still feel like he's been scapegoated much more than he's deserved to be. It's highly probable that we would've won the championship last year without the suspensions, and then we wouldn't even be having these arguments now. Who knows, maybe we'll make a historical rally and Mike will be right back in favor with the fickle fans again...
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:38 pm
PLEASE don't trade Amare! He's only 25 years old and averaged 30 PPG after the Shaq trade.
Who is going to replace that kind of production?
Also, the rest of the team is very old; Nash, Shaq, and Hill are in their mid 30's.
At-least Amare is young; to me, it makes no sense to trade him.
Who is going to replace that kind of production?
Also, the rest of the team is very old; Nash, Shaq, and Hill are in their mid 30's.
At-least Amare is young; to me, it makes no sense to trade him.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:34 pm
'drive by bball analysts' know nothing about a teams 'inner' trade ideas during the freaking playoffs. Chris Sheridan can go suck one.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:53 pm
'Vulgar ebonics?'
Yes, Shaq! lmao
Yes, Shaq! lmao
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:53 am
Well D'Antoni is a good coach, he just needs to make adjustments / improvements, learn to develop players, and play the bench more.
So he should stick around, but need to learn how to improve.
So he should stick around, but need to learn how to improve.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:36 am
addicted2noise wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
We can't trade Amare... regardless of his inconsistencies, he is still our most potent offensive weapon, and arguably the most unguardable big man in the league. There'd be no way to truly get equal value for an asset like STAT. Plus he's just one or two steps as a rebounder/defender from becoming what we all hoped he would be. Sometimes greatness just takes some time to develop. Amare will get there.
The most unguardable big man had a whopping 15 points tonight and a whopping 7 in game 4.