David Lee
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:03 am
by myron
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:10 am
by Orange_Blooded
I do like David Lee, but I like Barbs and Diaw a lot too. So i'd be torn in moving either of them for him.
There is a point to be made that he lacks in his offensive game, he could help replace Marion. But he is not nearly as versatile a defender or scorer to make that comparison.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:28 am
by psyclone1982
And also the fact that D'Antoni said those things before the draft 2 or 3 years ago now and Lee is a better all around player since then, he still can't shoot but he can score now.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:59 am
by WTFsunsFTW
55% FG tells me that if he cant shoot, he still knows how to get it in the basket.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:30 am
by chrice
Lee has good touch around the basket. I like his game. He's high energy, hustle, gets down to business on the boards. Most importantly, he has a lot more room to improve. Their loss would be our gain. I'll take a high percentage fg player with extra offensive rebounds, over a soft shooting big man that hangs around the perimeter all day long.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:30 am
by TASTIC
I'd offer Barbosa+Tucker
for
Lee+Collins
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:05 am
by pidi
if we
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:13 pm
by lilfishi22
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:06 pm
by Biff
lilfishi22 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I would've done that trade if MD had played DJ and Tucker more and developed them to be decent bench players at least. But taking Barbs away would take a big chunk out of back-court scoring. I like Lee but not at the expense of losing Barbosa.
Barbosa... the guy who disappears in big games? I'll take Lee over Barbosa any day.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:39 am
by Stix
Biff wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Barbosa... the guy who disappears in big games? I'll take Lee over Barbosa any day.
yeah because D. Lee has been in so many BIG games...
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:46 am
by nashill
phungk wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
yeah because D. Lee has been in so many BIG games...
at least we know that lee will play good defense...
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:07 am
by dantian
How about the following sequence of trades:
Phx: Barbosa, #15, Tucker to Mem for Mike Miller and Lowry.
Mem: Barbosa to NY for #5 and Rose's expiring.
NY: Randolph to Utah for AK47
Utah: Boozer for other values to be determined.
Provided Sloan could get Randolph play to his potential to replace Boozer, that'd be a win-win-win-win trade!
Jazz gets rid of AK's contract and should get something really useful for Boozer.
NY can play DA's system better with Barbosa and AK, the latter actually better than Marion. All they need is to motivate Curry to play enough defense. Curry/AK/Crawford/Barbosa/Marbury with backups in Lee/Q/Robinson/Jeffries could be the Suns of the East for a lot of fun and regular season success.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:12 am
by TASTIC
yikes
UTA gets raped, no matter what scrap they get back for Boozer.
Boozer>>>>Randolph
I'd do that first trade. Lowry would be nice here and more ready to contribute than a rookie PG at #15. Mike Miller would be AWESOME here
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:21 am
by dantian
TASTIC wrote:yikes
UTA gets raped, no matter what scrap they get back for Boozer.
Boozer>>>>Randolph
I'd do that first trade. Lowry would be nice here and more ready to contribute than a rookie PG at #15. Mike Miller would be AWESOME here
AK47 is a waste for Utah. If they could motivate Randolph who is a much better talent than Boozer, then they get value for AK. It's a risk given Randolph's past. but, he never played in a winning situation yet.
BTW, as a Suns fan, my proposal was meant to give Mem incentive to do the trade. But they might not really want LB, hence happy to ship him for a high pick and expiring contract.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:32 am
by myron
dantian wrote:How about the following sequence of trades:
Phx: Barbosa, #15, Tucker to Mem for Mike Miller and Lowry.
Mem: Barbosa to NY for #5 and Rose's expiring.
NY: Randolph to Utah for AK47
Utah: Boozer for other values to be determined.
Provided Sloan could get Randolph play to his potential to replace Boozer, that'd be a win-win-win-win trade!
Jazz gets rid of AK's contract and should get something really useful for Boozer.
NY can play DA's system better with Barbosa and AK, the latter actually better than Marion. All they need is to motivate Curry to play enough defense. Curry/AK/Crawford/Barbosa/Marbury with backups in Lee/Q/Robinson/Jeffries could be the Suns of the East for a lot of fun and regular season success.
Well I did make the thread because of the article i posted but you know
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:30 pm
by Stix
nashill wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
at least we know that lee will play good defense...
Lee is too redundant with Diaw and Boris is the better post presence.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:34 pm
by Biff
phungk wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Lee is too redundant with Diaw and Boris is the better post presence.
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Lee is a far better rebounder. Doris is a woman and is too soft. We need some good energy guys who will play consistently.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:54 pm
by eastsidecrossover
I think we bend over for Lee in this trade. I think it is a reach to trade a guy like barbs for lee. Barbs drives me crazy, so does doris, but I still think they are the better players.
we can do better than this trade idea. maybe Lee and the #5 for barbs and the #15.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:44 am
by pidi
i just tried this trade on the espn trade machine, and new york gots a 2.6 million trade exeption, so it cold work...
Phoenix Suns
Incoming Players
Renaldo Balkman
Salary: $1,280,640 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.4 REB: 3.3 AST: 0.6 PER: 11.55
David Lee
Salary: $990,600 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.9 AST: 1.2 PER: 18.01
Nate Robinson
Salary: $1,268,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 12.7 REB: 3.1 AST: 2.9 PER: 15.38
Outgoing Players: Leandro BarbosaNew York Knicks
The Knicks are over the cap, and their incoming salaries are greater than 125% plus $100,000 of their outgoing salaries. They need to cut $1,075,750 from the incoming trade value to make this trade successful.
Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $5,600,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 15.6 REB: 2.8 AST: 2.6 PER: 15.90
Outgoing Players: Renaldo Balkman, David Lee, Nate Robinson
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:40 am
by TASTIC
^Barbosa's not worth that much
And I'd rather have Collins than Nate the circus act