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Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:40 am
by The Diesel
Hey guys,

Sean Deveney of the Sporting News wrote a great column about the Shaq trade not too long ago.

Here it is: Hope you enjoy!

At some point in the coming months, presumably after a few sauna sessions to melt the offseason pounds off Shaquille O'Neal, the Suns will trot out the big fella and proclaim -- once again, even at age 36 -- he can be the cure for the team's playoff ills.

It didn't work out that way in the last postseason, of course, as the Spurs beat the Suns for the fourth time in six years, this time in a five-game first-round series. But one benefit of a monster inseason trade is that if it doesn't work out, you get to hit the reset button before the next season starts.

You know the routine: The Suns will say that, with a full training camp with O'Neal • with a more cohesive playbook • with better chemistry, the whole team will improve. They'll say this because, well, what else can they do?

Ultimately, the Suns have become the one thing they once seemed so determined not to be -- a regular NBA team with a regular NBA playbook. Now, they'll need to convince fans that they still can contend in the wake of a deal that cost them Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks. David Griffin, the Suns' vice president of basketball operations, doesn't think this will be a problem.

"Not at all, really," he says. "Looking back, I think fans understood where we were. Marion didn't want to be here. We wanted to do something that could get some help for Amare (Stoudemire). Everyone understood what we were trying to accomplish with the Shaq deal. Fans understand what we're doing."

What they've done is a dramatic remake, for better or worse. For a brief period, the Suns were the NBA's chief novelty act, chucking up shots in high volume from tipoff to buzzer. But O'Neal's arrival was a prelude to ending that novelty. The thought -- as trumpeted by then-coach Mike D'Antoni -- behind the O'Neal trade was that the Suns could continue playing their frenetic, uptempo style, but O'Neal could be deployed during those key stretches in which Phoenix absolutely had to have an easy basket. Didn't work.

Now D'Antoni is gone, replaced by coach Terry Porter, and you can kiss those 130-124 scores goodbye, though Phoenix still figures to be a powerful offensive team. Porter is preaching defense with plans to slow the offense and better integrate O'Neal. Under D'Antoni, too often, the Suns had already hoisted a quick 3-pointer by the time Shaq had reached the offensive end of the court. So they'll do what almost every other team does: stop hoisting quick 3-pointers.

"The coaching change is going to be significant," Griffin says. "We're going to be much more defensive-minded. Schematically, it will help the offense. It makes it a lot easier to throw the ball into the post when you have the time to set up the play. We never seemed to get to that point last year."

The changes will be obvious from the first day of training camp. But the Suns' fate could be tied to more obscure factors. An understated problem last season was the team's overreliance on Grant Hill, who at 35 is not the perimeter threat needed to create space for O'Neal. And Hill struggled on defense.

The Suns are gambling that free-agent pickup Matt Barnes can regain his outside shot. If he does, he could replace Hill as a starter. They're also hoping their top draft pick, center Robin Lopez, and second-round point guard Goran Dragic (if he can get out of his contract in Spain) can play enough to keep O'Neal and point guard Steve Nash, 34, rested.

And maybe that's just a sign of where this team is now. The Suns are thinking defense, trying to create better offensive spacing, hoping their young reserves will hold up. These are the kinds of things all teams worry about in the offseason.

The Suns have hit the reset button and, here they are. No longer some sort of NBA freak show, they're happy being just another team.


Seems Griff has no regrets behind the trade...

Thoughts on the article?

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:11 am
by lilfishi22
We all know our front office blunders, but it is for the fans that they don't admit the Shaq-Marion trade was bad. Though I am optimistic still, that with a proper training camp, and emphasis on defense, we should be able to integrate Shaq into our D and O better.

Though I do miss the times when we blow out our opponents by 20+, those were good times. :D

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:46 am
by walkingart
I think the most interesting perspective of the story was not touched on at all.

Before Kerr was the Suns' GM, he did not believe they were capable of winning the championship as assembled and with Mike D's 7 seconds or less. After seeing our record against the elite teams in the west at the half way point, he had seen enough to figure out what he already knew, this team was not going to win a championship.

So he pulled the trigger on shipping Marion out, a player they had decided to let walk when his deal was up. Now, had Marion's deal expiring given them enough money under the cap to sign someone of value, he would still be a Sun (IMO). But due to the high payroll of the remaining team, they would not be enough under the cap in 2009 to make it feasable. So we ship him out and get Amare some years at the PF, the position he is best suited for and hopefully Shaq gives us enough so that we remain in the top half of the west.

As most people rip the trade and Kerr, and would suggest we blow it up for a rebuild, I argue that we already have blown it up for the rebuild. We got rid of our coach, who was unwilling to adapt his style, and we changed the core dynamic. We have brought in one rookie who we believe will get adequate playing time, we see a second year player(DJ) stepping up and seeing some time, we drafted a PG that we envision as our future, we signed a wing who is only 27 to be our sixth man and possible starter and our Superstar is only 25. With two other key role players 25 or under, this team is not the old team of years past, it is a new team, built in the manner of Championship teams througout the years. No more rewriting of history with the run and gun style, it is time to start making history.

Think about it guys, if Dragic comes over as hoped by the FO, we will have 4 guys on the roster who are in their first or second year in the league. I don't ever remember that being the case in Phoenix. Kerr is trying to do this the right way, and I think he has the where with all to succeed. If our core stays healthy we are as good as anyone, if they don't, we have young players who are going to gain valuable experience which will make us better in the long run.

I for one, am as excited as I have ever been!

GO SUNS!!!!

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:06 pm
by toucansma
Thanks for the article Diesel! However it doesn't seem like great insight to me. Seems like a rehash of every other sports writer complaining about the Suns. He loses a lot of credibility with me through this statement.

And Hill struggled on defense.


He was one of, if not our best defensive player. He only became ineffective when he hurt his groin.

Also I don't see the Suns changing their style that much. How could they? Steve Nash thrives with the run n gun. Also from a marketing standpoint, they want to put fans in seats. Obviously a championship would but, also so does the run n gun. Its exciting and how basketball used to be played.

I think having Lopez makes a big difference. He can be that big body to help Amare be PF. He can be the defensive anchor, and get some putbacks and a few inside points. I see Shaq playing a full 25 mins, and the rest to Robin.

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:21 pm
by Miklo
walkingart wrote:I for one, am as excited as I have ever been!

GO SUNS!!!!


We need more walkingarts around here. Its true; there is a fair chance that everything will gel better and if not, we finally have the right pieces in place to go to plan B.

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:22 pm
by The Diesel
It was nice to read that Porter intends to use Shaq better than D'Antoni did.

Re: Great Sean Deveney Article

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
by lebron4mvp
walk just said it all no more post's needed




well typed walk