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Again, I agree with Nash. We can't let the running game leave us entirely, because we do it better than anybody.

I expect Nash to be the last guy who will settle in Porter's system and this is the right time of the season to experiment. While I agree we shouldnt take out the running system totally our team needs to learn HARD and PATIENTLY how to play efficient slow tempo game because that is what gets us beaten everytime in playoff.

Seems a wild idea but against mediocre team I would suggest starting Drajic ahead of Nash and let Nash play off the bench.

nba_addict wrote:I expect Nash to be the last guy who will settle in Porter's system and this is the right time of the season to experiment. While I agree we shouldnt take out the running system totally our team needs to learn HARD and PATIENTLY how to play efficient slow tempo game because that is what gets us beaten everytime in playoff.

Seems a wild idea but against mediocre team I would suggest starting Drajic ahead of Nash and let Nash play off the bench.

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Seems a wild idea but against mediocre team I would suggest starting Drajic ahead of Nash and let Nash play off the bench.

you could start with spelling it right. Dragic.

it seems to me that what we have here is a clash of egos. i understand completely that Nash is trying to get this team to playing the best possible basketball, but on the other hand i think that there is a little stubbornness from the nash part. the way i see it we relay on Shaq pretty much the whole time we run half-court sets. if this is a good idea im not so sure. Shaq is old. There's no denying it. then again, he's still a force to be reckoned with. but then again, i think that having to dominant bigs down low it just to devastating to abandon. Going back to nash, i still agree that this team (without shaq? is still built to run. I see it as a three headed problem.

i think we will have to commit to one style or another if we cant find this balance that nash is talking about

this comment bothered me

"I'm trying to keep growing with the group and see if we can develop," Nash said. "It's early. It suits a bunch of guys in this locker room (to run), but we also have to cater to Shaq. He's a beast down there. It's a tough balance to find. If we can find it, we can beat anybody."

we shouldnt be making this team to build around shaq! as far as im concerned this team should be built around amare and nash pick and roll and anything else that suits amare

why the hell would you build your entire style around someone who wont even play every night?

porter is going to alienate amare quick and make him want to leave. this should be amares team and we should be catering to him and everyone else is along for the ride

as for dragic - man, im sure he will turn out to be nice and all, and he needs minutes to learn, but i think he is too raw to warrant any minutes yet. I would be happier to have a veteran PG in here to take his minutes and dragic can earn his on the training court for now

i hate the guy but - damon jones?

we shouldnt be making this team to build around shaq! as far as im concerned this team should be built around amare and nash pick and roll and anything else that suits amare

my point exactly. although shaq is a beast when rested, he won be rested every single game. if shaq is 5 yrs younger i'd be all for slowing down tempo. now we're not running and we're not playing half court all the time. we need an identity.

SunsFever wrote:

Seems a wild idea but against mediocre team I would suggest starting Drajic ahead of Nash and let Nash play off the bench.

you could start with spelling it right. Dragic.

Thanks.

My point is, Nash is underutilized in halfcourt oriented system which Suns run every start of the game or whenever Shaq is in. Not that I dont want Nash to adjust to Porter's system but Nash can help our second unit synchronizing their game. I think most have said, Barbosa is a better player when played alongside Nash. Same goes for Diaw. I thought of this while watching the Milwaukee game. Sessions is way better than Rinour and in fact Bucks second unit played better than their starter. This is also a good practice for our starters not to rely to much on Nash.

Benching Nash is not the way to go, but the basic premise of it(having Nash go run and gun with our bench) is one that I fully support

I'm fine with playing slower half-court ball and getting Shaq the ball while he's in the game, so long as Shaq is only in the game 20ish MPG and we go back to running while he's on the bench or resting.

It's (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to continue playing slow while Shaq's not on the floor.

Barnes/Diaw/Raja are equally effective whether we play slow or fast.... but Barbs, and also to a lesser extent Nash/Hill/Amare play better when we go uptempo (even tho those 3 last guys are still very dangerous in the halfcourt).

We should NEVER put Barbs and Shaq on the court together at the same. Have each of em play around half the game, run while we're with Barbs, slow down while we're with Shaq.

The whole two different offensive sets works REALLY well for the Lakers, I dont see why it couldn't here. Grind it down low with Shaq when he's in, then run like hell when Barbosa/Diaw/Hill come in

I'm worried about Nash's shooting/TO numbers so far.

The fact that the Suns are winning without a rhythmic Nash, who has turned the ball over too much and struggled to find his shot, isn't such a bad thing - once he finds that rhythm, the Suns will be even more of a threat. Nash looked okay in the first quarter with his shot selection last night against the Grizzlies, but then it fell apart. As for the 6 turnovers, I think we can expect Nash to hover around 5 TO's, is that too high?

5 TOs is ridiculously high...I want him around 3 most nights, 4 max.

nba_addict wrote:

SunsFever wrote:

Seems a wild idea but against mediocre team I would suggest starting Drajic ahead of Nash and let Nash play off the bench.

you could start with spelling it right. Dragic.

Thanks.

My point is, Nash is underutilized in halfcourt oriented system which Suns run every start of the game or whenever Shaq is in. Not that I dont want Nash to adjust to Porter's system but Nash can help our second unit synchronizing their game. I think most have said, Barbosa is a better player when played alongside Nash. Same goes for Diaw. I thought of this while watching the Milwaukee game. Sessions is way better than Rinour and in fact Bucks second unit played better than their starter. This is also a good practice for our starters not to rely to much on Nash.

After last night's game, I think maybe playing Nash more with our bench guys and Dragic more with Shaq isn't a terrible idea. All Dragic has to do is throw an entry pass, and Nash gets to run like there's no tomorrow.

not a suns fan. But id be a bit concerned with Nash. He is getting old and has been a complete non factor while on the court.