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Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:35 am
by Itmotep
People are such Nay Sayers and whiners on these boards the last 2 days since the JRich trade went down. I have been seeing people say they wouldn't appreciate a Suns championship if we won cause we wouldn't have Bell or Diaw hoisting that trophy up. If you say that, you are not a Suns fan. I can bet you anything those nay sayers would be all up in arms and happy if we won im sure. A lot of people are just shocked we got rid of Bell i'm thinking. But lets look at it...

We get rid of Bell, yes, he has a heart as big as a basketball and gives it his all. He has been with us since we got good when Nash got here. But like any aging player, he has been slumping. Ever since his calf tear he has been playing under-par and very unimpressive. Bell is also a cry baby and has been down ever since we didn't offer him a 3 year extension this summer. His morale has been down and you can tell...Both in his play and in his attitude on and off the court. So, as much as I love Bell, you all need to get over your Bromance with him and move on. Hes old and dwindling.

Everyone is still mad about Marion going to Miami. . . WHY?! Im sorry, but this year, Shaq has been phenomenal! Marion wanted to leave. If we did not trade him for someone, we would have lost him and got nothing for him, GET OVER IT! He WAS great in Phx and god do I miss him. But JRich will bring us a lot of Marion qualities minus the "Hey, I wanna be the man, cry cry cry".

I have seen lots of negativity surrounding JRich. . . Why? This guy is great. He has a great FG% and a GREAT 3pt %. So you're telling me that this guy can shoot a mid range jumper, shoot a 3 OR go to the lane and slam one down on your face? Where do I sign up? We essentially lose Bell, because well, to be frank, Boris SUCKED after he signed his contract. He is just a contract year player ala Tim Thomas.

Nash is going to get better with JRich. His assists are going to go up and some more running is going to happen. We are going to have a lot more opportunities to spread the floor when hes out there.

A lot more bandwagon fans are jumping off and its making me happy. Get off our wagon and go jump on LA or Boston plz. I heard some idiot on Gambo and Ash today and first thing he said was "I have been a Suns fan for the last 4 years" . . . Why even bother giving your opinion on the team then. You know nothing.

Also, this is coming from a die hard fan since I was 6 and now a 4 year season ticket holder. <3

Cliffs: Quit crying, JRich hasnt even played yet and a lot of people are dumb thinking Bell and Diaw were good players....

-On a side note, look at my room?
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Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:46 am
by rsavaj
I don't see much negativity toward J-Rich. I simply feel as though he's being overvalued, but I think he's a great player and I'm glad we have him.

I agree, Bell had severely declined, but I'd much rather have a 5 million dollar 3pt shooter to spread the floor who already has great chemistry with Nash then a 13 million dollar guy who is going to need some time to gel.

I don't think Bell was up for an extension this year; he's up for an extension next year, so I don't feel as though that's a valid point.

Marion and Richardson aren't remotely similar players except for the fact that they're both athletic. They have differing strengths and weaknesses.

Whether or not Boris "sucked" after 05/06 is highly debatable. When we featured him in our offense(think the last two games of the playoffs), he flourished. When he played in place of Amare, he flourished. I can go on and on about Diaw, but I'd much rather direct you to this thread: http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb? ... 733&lid=86 . Read it with an open mind; it might change your opinion about Diaw.

Lastly, I like your room, but there was something in your photobucket album I'm more intrigued by:

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Who's this? :eyebrows:

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:56 am
by visions
Itmotep wrote:But JRich will bring us a lot of Marion qualities minus the "Hey, I wanna be the man, cry cry cry".

Sure J-Rich will bring back memories of Marion on the offensive end but by all accounts he is not a great defender, so really he is not like Marion at all.
Marion was just about our best defender (apart from maybe Raja).

I like J-Rich and I think he will be good but I also think we will miss Diaw & Raja more than we realise.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:58 am
by b-ball forever
So u still got teddy bears, how cute :lol:

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:59 am
by Itmotep
I don't think Bell was up for an extension this year; he's up for an extension next year, so I don't feel as though that's a valid point.


Heard it on Gambo and Ash today. He asked for a 3 year extension this summer, but the Suns declined to do any sort of negotiations with him.


2nd. Thats my lady ;)

3rd. Diaw will not be missed. 1 good season is nothing. Its call consistency, something that JRich seems to have. We sucked at Defense before, we are still gonna suck, not a big deal.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:00 am
by Itmotep
b-ball forever wrote:So u still got teddy bears, how cute :lol:


Shoooot, notice they are wearing Suns clothes? GF makes me them for Bdays etc. And the hearts on teh walls that are purple and orange, I kept those up from VDay, lol :)

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:04 am
by rsavaj
Itmotep wrote:
I don't think Bell was up for an extension this year; he's up for an extension next year, so I don't feel as though that's a valid point.


Heard it on Gambo and Ash today. He asked for a 3 year extension this summer, but the Suns declined to do any sort of negotiations with him.


2nd. Thats my lady ;)

3rd. Diaw will not be missed. 1 good season is nothing. Its call consistency, something that JRich seems to have. We sucked at Defense before, we are still gonna suck, not a big deal.


Point 1: Didn't know that...interesting stuff.

Point 2:
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Point 3: I guess we'll agree to disagree, lol

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:07 am
by Ninjafish
Charles Barkley just said he sees no value at all in this trade for Phoenix.

More pics of your girl. :)

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:07 am
by Itmotep
Point 3: I guess we'll agree to disagree, lol


Dont get me wrong, Marion had GREAT D, and it was good when he was here, but our D as of late sucks even worse. Bell as been doing horrible on D. JRich will do better than Bell D and O wise. I have Diaw like most, so thats why I hate him ... cause he eats french bread all day w/ Tony Parker !

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:07 am
by Itmotep
Ninjafish wrote:Charles Barkley just said he sees no value at all in this trade for Phoenix.

More pics of your girl. :)


Barkley also said Lebron sucks or something along those lines? heh

Edit: Or that he thinks hes an idiot. Yet Charles Barkley is the idiot...Its Charles Barkley for godsake. Hes as dumb as a box of rocks, lol.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:27 am
by Ninjafish
It was the other way around I think. Lebron called him an idiot.

Barkley usually makes some good points. For example, when he ripped us apart the last time we played on TNT. If you want to see idiot analysts, turn on ESPN. Barkley's a genius compared to those guys.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:00 am
by Frank Lee
Ninjafish wrote:Charles Barkley just said he sees no value at all in this trade for Phoenix.

More pics of your girl. :)



I think Barkley looks at it and sees that even though a deal was made...we still did not address things we need. Its a lateral move as our weakness at back up PG still exists. W/o a solution to that situation, (among others) we remain questionable contenders.....

I say this as I am watching Bos/Wash and holding back my chunder every time Rondo has the ball.





Nice room... ya want a cookie ? Here's a picture of mine for the past 36


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Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:26 am
by JohnVancouver
[quote="Itmotep"]People are such Nay Sayers and whiners on these boards the last 2 days since the JRich trade went down.
-On a side note, look at my room?


---- I don't see a Suns screensaver on that monitor Mr "Fan" .....

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:40 am
by Miklo
Your room is epic. Try to get something out of the Suns for it? Get them to post it somewhere, I dunno. Looks like its been a lifelong project.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:43 am
by Frank Lee
Thanks... actually its not life long...if the parole guys come through

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:55 am
by visions
Ninjafish wrote:If you want to see idiot analysts, turn on ESPN. Barkley's a genius compared to those guys.


Totally agree. Marc Jackson drives me nuts...he is Mr. Obvious and repeats himself the whole game. When him and Van Gundy start joking around I just want to throw something at the tv.
The guys in the studio can get even more annoying. It's hardly analysis anyway cos once you take out ads and updates about other sports, you are left with 60 seconds of actual analysis about the game you are watching.

Make it 30 seconds if Bill Walton starts reminiscing about his playing days................... :D

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:03 am
by Itmotep
JohnVancouver wrote:
Itmotep wrote:People are such Nay Sayers and whiners on these boards the last 2 days since the JRich trade went down.
-On a side note, look at my room?


---- I don't see a Suns screensaver on that monitor Mr "Fan" .....


Ya, have old school game I used to play ;) lawl

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:22 am
by TASTIC
Nice room, girl...everything

I want your life

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haha


I have a lot of those pennants/cups/hats etc...got me a mouse for my laptop the other day. Can't take a lot of it when I come over, but will do my darndest to share the purple and orange...

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:31 am
by enigmatics
This is going to sound psychotic, but my room used to covered wall-to-wall like that with Miami Dolphins gear as a youngster and teenager. They used to tear out my heart so many times that I would literally tear everything down in frustration and put it in bags until they proved to me they had some heart. :lol:

Eventually that kind of fanaticism had to take a back seat.

Re: Nay Sayers and Whiners?!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:46 am
by Itmotep
miklo714 wrote:Your room is epic. Try to get something out of the Suns for it? Get them to post it somewhere, I dunno. Looks like its been a lifelong project.


I have thought about it, but would know know how abouts to do it