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Can yall see him being traded in the off season

He'll sign an extension.

Nash, Amare, Shaq or JRich will be traded. Therefore there is a 25% chance

In my mind, the need to keep Amare and Jrich to build around.

bradley281 wrote:Nash, Amare, Shaq or JRich will be traded. Therefore there is a 25% chance

In my mind, the need to keep Amare and Jrich to build around.

Agreed. But J-Rich needs to keep is A$$ outta trouble with the Law or else ol' Arpaio is going to put him in the Tents with Barkley.
BTW, can we not talk about trading Amar'e for ATLEAST the rest of the season, please?

we have a nice young core with amare, lb and j-rich. if dragic and dudley are developing the right way we´ve got a real exciting core of players. no need to trade someone..

Pretty good chance of it. Sarver has made it pretty clear that he'll be slashing payroll this offseason, and in a buyer's market, that's hard to do. J-Rich would be my first choice for a fire sale, but would anyone take him for expirings/trade exemptions/cap room? Unless he picks up his play down the stretch, I doubt it. Failing that, the options are:

Sell Shaq
Sell Amare
Don't pick up Nash's option
Sell Barbosa (note: this would only get the Suns halfway to being under the tax, possibly less)

Of those, the only one that saves you money AND is likely to bring you back anything of value is trading Amare. No one will give up any picks or promising young players for Shaq. Barbosa could get a non-lotto pick, but that's about it, and he wouldn't save a ton of money in the first place.

There are only a few teams that will be far enough under the cap to absorb salaries and take on more salary than they give up. Detroit, Memphis, and I think, Sacramento.

I think Sac would love to get him and try and hope they could convince him to re-sign. I'm not sure what we could get from Detroit for him. Memphis probably won't want him since they think he would leave.

I think the main reason we would trade now is to get under the cap, but only a few trade partners would allow us to do that, and if they are going to take on more salary than they give up, they likely aren't going to be giving us much, if any talent in return.

We seriously lack depth (especially if Barnes and Hill are gone), so I can't see us just taking picks back either.

Sarver going to renegotiate Nash's contract to slash salary next season. Nash will prolly accept a couple million for first year then make it up following year(s) once Shaq comes off. He won't accomplish anything better through trades.

Mr. Sun wrote:He'll sign an extension.

If he wants an extension he better be ready to sign for WAY less than the Max cause he's not worth it.

I could see the Suns relenquishing Nash's final year option, and resigning him for 4 more seasons starting at a flat $8 million per year, or a decending contract starting at $9 million. Either way that helps us get under the tax next year. It would be a big risk to do that as he could pull a Boozer and we could lose Nash to NY for the MLE. If Nash leaves the team rebuilds...a bit of a tricky play for Phoenix to work out.

Short answer: Yes with an IF

Long answer: No with a BUT

If anything the Suns need to let Steve Nash walk and use some of that money to sign Barnes to a long term deal probally between 3-5M and the Suns would be able to save like 15M in capspace. A team of Shaq, Amar'e, Barnes, J-Rich and Barbosa at the point looks pretty good right?

Worst case scenario we can sign Barnes to the LLE (Hill's contract) although he might demand more on the free market. This summer and next summer is going to be crazy with the amount of free agents combined with recession cash available to sign em all.

MaryvalesFinest wrote:If anything the Suns need to let Steve Nash walk and use some of that money to sign Barnes to a long term deal probally between 3-5M and the Suns would be able to save like 15M in capspace. A team of Shaq, Amar'e, Barnes, J-Rich and Barbosa at the point looks pretty good right?

I'd rather Lose Barnes, I love him at his current rate but not that high on resigning him if it costs too much... I honestly think the Suns know they need Nash in a Suns uniform next season. Because even if the team drops off some fans will support the team as long as nash is here. After next season who knows.

As for the topic at hand I'd say 25% of an amare Deal sounds about right. I think if a deal does go down we will get better value for him then we would have at the deadline.... still will be a bad move probably. I hope they keep the core in tact for 1 last year after this but something is likely to go down.

I'd say Shaq is the most likely to go.

I I honestly think Amare is worth close to max money depending on the system he plays in. In this economic climate only the top 3 players, Lebron, Kobe + flip between (Dwight, CP3 and probably someone good i missed) is worth a max contract.

Amare is worth I would say 90-95% of a max contract if he consistently plays like he did in the 2nd half of last season when he was putting up close to MVP numbers. Ideally he'd be asking for a max contract, but I doubt there are many teams willing to give him a max contract.

I think we'll offer him a decent extension, probably slightly more than he's worth, you know, incentive for him to stay. But nothing that will screw us financially for the next 5-6 seasons.

If he refuses that offer, we'll trade him for young talent and picks, then rebuild around JRich probably.

close to max but not max money, makes sense. It's really up in the air right now. I just wanna make the playoffs right now.