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Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:24 pm
by pidi
It´s tough to say goodbye. You never wanna lose something you realy love. That´s a real problem right now. We should face a goodbye to a team we realy love. A team that revolutiniced Pro-Basketball.
A team that never won anything - anything?? no they won our hearts, they won the respect from theyre opponents, every opponent feared playing against them ( ok, not the spurs )....
We all should face that steve nash, who was the motor to everything, lost the quick one or two steps who made him special... now he´s a washed up pg who can´t defend and can´t run a team like he used to. without a special nash this team is not build to win.
i expect a major shakeup this summer, and you know that´s a tough situation.
but that´s how time goes on, let´s hope that we´ll come back and still win some games. and maybe one day we´ll be back as a title contender...
mase or tylor, if you feel to lock this one - do it, i just had the feeling to cry a little in here......

Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:30 pm
by RandomVillain
"revolutiniced"
What?
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:34 pm
by pidi
RandomVillain wrote:"revolutiniced"
What?
make a revolution - haha - sorry a german word...
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:37 pm
by TASTIC
pidi wrote:It´s tough to say goodbye. You never wanna lose something you realy love. That´s a real problem right now. We should face a goodbye to a team we realy love. A team that revolutiniced Pro-Basketball.
A team that never won anything - anything?? no they won our hearts, they won the respect from theyre opponents, every opponent feared playing against them ( ok, not the spurs )....
We all should face that steve nash, who was the motor to everything, lost the quick one or two steps who made him special... now he´s a washed up pg who can´t defend and can´t run a team like he used to. without a special nash this team is not build to win.
i expect a major shakeup this summer, and you know that´s a tough situation.
but that´s how time goes on, let´s hope that we´ll come back and still win some games. and maybe one day we´ll be back as a title contender...
mase or tylor, if you feel to lock this one - do it, i just had the feeling to cry a little in here......

haha, 0 for 2...

They have to really move some pieces or get some defensive minded players in. Trying to make guys we have, ie JRich, Nash and Barbosa, into defensive players isn't going to work. There's no way a square block fits into the round hole, so they need to address that.
JRich would be the first guy I'd move, but not for another offensive guy (oh the irony of trading Bell away)...maybe look at UTA for a guy like Kirilenko or even Millsap...maybe a 3 team deal...
Re-sign Amundson for $3m over 2 or 3 years...And get Barnes back at something like $8m over 3...With Hill gone I could see Barnes' playing time increasing and his role as starting SF would be nice as a 3 point shooter next to Amare
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:44 pm
by pidi
yah, trade j-rich and shaq. maybe sign a player like stro, ama´re, amundson, stro and someone like camby or okafor would be a nice frontcourt. i can realy see us with barnes and dudley at the sf-spot, barbs and ?? at the sg, with ?? and nash at the pg..
but this is no tilte - contending team...
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 5:48 pm
by The Diesel
If Gentry was the Head-Coach from the beginning and they kept Diaw and Bell, this team would be contenders if Amare also stayed healthy.
Porter ruined this team.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 7:38 pm
by JohnVancouver
The Diesel wrote:If Gentry was the Head-Coach from the beginning and they kept Diaw and Bell, this team would be contenders if Amare also stayed healthy.
Porter ruined this team.
--- I know, and if my aunt had balls ...
I think we need to face up to it being time to start over. Do a sign and trade with Nash, unload Shaq if he really wants out, beat the bushes for inexpensive defensive/roleplayers, etc.
If Kerr really wants a Spurs type half-court team, do a deal with TO for Calderon and let nash finish his career at home, sort of (Toronto being about as much like Vancouver as San Francisco is like Baltimore)
Really - would have been nice to have Mike D for one more year, some tweaks to the system if he'd been less stubborn, work up a team D scheme
You know, I've been thinking about SSOL. Utah has a system and they stay with it, and the coach, for decades - same with SA. They rarely get high draft picks but they do draft exceptionally well for the system, and they pick up guys who will fit in, for cheap
I wonder what PHX would have been like if we'd done the same - guys like Raja and Doris came to life under Mike. If we'd just held on to a couple of guys like Joe J and Kurt, kept a couple of draft picks like Rondo or Rudy ...
Now I'm playing what if
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 7:56 pm
by SteveNashMVP
if this team doesn't improve next year, i'm gonna join the millions of people who jumped on the laker bandwagon
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:00 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
If anyone goes from a Suns fan to a Lakers fan they were never a true Suns fan in the first place...
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:22 pm
by PHXfan85
SteveNashMVP wrote:if this team doesn't improve next year, i'm gonna join the millions of people who jumped on the laker bandwagon
Later dude.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:37 pm
by albasuna
It's been great and the organization has been great, *except for a few front office hiccups. Let's finish the season strong and not fold. They owe it to themselves to finish this season strong and with a bang.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:57 pm
by tigerblood
A complete change is in-evitable at this point, let us hope that they make some decent decisions in rebuilding.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 9:27 pm
by TASTIC
MaryvalesFinest wrote:If anyone goes from a Suns fan to a Lakers fan they were never a true Suns fan in the first place...
+1
Totally agree for once with you Mary!!
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2009 10:00 pm
by mkot
Yea, Lakers fans like those that are quite adept at only caring when their team is good. Go be a Laker fan if that works for you.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:14 am
by eastsidecrossover
you better change your name then you faker fan.
I love this team the past few years. It was exciting and a thing that you had to watch. It was great to go out and watch the games with friends, but that does not happen much anymore. Good times, too bad we did not win it all. WE had our chances but it just didn't work out for us.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:29 am
by Miklo
pidi wrote:Goodbye to a great time
pidi wrote:Goodbye to a great time and all those bandwagon fans
Corrected...
So not all bad?
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:12 am
by Ninjafish
Miklo wrote:pidi wrote:Goodbye to a great time
pidi wrote:Goodbye to a great time and all those bandwagon fans
Corrected...
So not all bad?
You must love hearing "MVP" for Kobe and "Let's go Lakers" chants at US Airways, then.
Bandwagon fans aren't a bad thing. They're a sign of a good team.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:36 am
by pidi
we have many of them... i don´t realy care of them. all i want is a freakin championship in the desert
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:00 am
by Miklo
Ninjafish wrote:Bandwagon fans aren't a bad thing. They're a sign of a good team.
Right, that's the point...they don't stick with the team when its down, times like now. So what were they really a fan of in the first place? Yes, bandwagon fans can be used as a metric for how good a team is or how big its market, but that and merchandise sales is all they're good for.
Re: Goodbye to a great time
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:00 am
by Sandra
if this team doesn't improve next year, i'm gonna join the millions of people who jumped on the laker bandwagon
Wise of you, SteveNashMVP. At least, you can then be sure that David Stern will always favor your team, not screw it
And yeah, why don't you change your name, as Eastsidecrossover suggested.
*** will do, I guess
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