2009 Free Agent Pool

Sun Scorched · Post #1 » by **Sun Scorched** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 11:53 pm

Thinking about this off-season... there will be some attainable MLE talent out there.

RealGM doesn't show us having the MLE, but doesn't that refresh every year?

Here is a list of all players with expirings or contracts dependant upon Qualifying Offers:

Ben Gordon
Mike Bibby
Marvin Williams (QO)
Stephon Marbury
Raymond Felton (QO)
Jason Kidd
JR Smith
Allen Iverson
Rasheed Wallace
Ron Artest
Jarrett Jack (QO)
Lamar Odom
Trevor Ariza
Hakim Warrick (QO)
Jamario Moon
Charlie Villanueva (QO)
Luc Mbah a Moute
Chris Wilcox
Nate Robinson (QO)
David Lee (QO)
Andre Miller
Channing Frye (QO)
Bobby Jackson
Ike Diogu (QO)
Rashad McCants (QO)
Drew Gooden
Michael Finley (QO)
Shawn Marion
Anthony Parker
Paul Milsap

MaryvalesFinest · Post #2 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 12:44 am

The Suns should go after Ramon Sessions, he would be great as the Suns pg as the future. He just had a tripple double the other day and his numbers are going up so he would probally be worth more than the MLE. Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks. That's if the Suns stay in the run-n-gun system.

If the Suns decide to go in the defensive minded direction they should dump as much salary as they can and go after some defensive players like Paul Milsap, Trevor Ariza, etc.

DaDragicShow · Post #3 » by **DaDragicShow** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:35 am

MaryvalesFinest wrote:The Suns should go after Ramon Sessions, he would be great as the Suns pg as the future. He just had a tripple double the other day and his numbers are going up so he would probally be worth more than the MLE. Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks. That's if the Suns stay in the run-n-gun system.

If the Suns decide to go in the defensive minded direction they should dump as much salary as they can and go after some defensive players like Paul Milsap, Trevor Ariza, etc.

Amare for Sessions? Are you f*ckin (Please Use More Appropriate Word) dude, seriously get the fk out of here.

I come on here to read good ideas from fans but come on sessions and ablino guy for Amare?

JohnVancouver · Post #4 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:59 am

Sun Scorched wrote:Thinking about this off-season... there will be some attainable MLE talent out there.

RealGM doesn't show us having the MLE, but doesn't that refresh every year?

Here is a list of all players with expirings or contracts dependant upon Qualifying Offers:

--- Lots of "no thanks" type guys in that list. Of them -

Ron Artest
Trevor Ariza
Hakim Warrick (QO)
David Lee (QO)
Shawn Marion
Anthony Parker
Paul Milsap

--- and not many of those guys who would make a big difference. Ron Ron could add some toughness. Ariza is a solid young guy and the Lakers are not likely to afford him but I don't think we get him if he moves.
If we lose Barnes, and I hope we do, either Millsap or Lee would be nice though much more expensive. I doubt Shawn comes back here, but if everyone could smile and be friends, that wouldn't hurt. I'm a huge fan of Parker.
Millsap is going to get an offer from Utah we won't be able to beat.

But just supposing - add Marion, Artest and Parker and we have improved defense immeasurably.
BTW, I read a column/blog yesterday where the writer mentioned to Shawn money was going to be tight next year and how did Shawn feel about getting the MLE? Trix just stared blankly at him, like he was speaking Martian.

JohnVancouver · Post #5 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:03 am

arizonaplaya85 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks.

Amare for Sessions? Are you f*ckin (Please Use More Appropriate Word) dude, seriously get the fk out of here.

I come on here to read good ideas from fans but come on sessions and ablino guy for Amare?

---- This your first exposure to MVF? She wants to send Nash anywhere for anything at all - a book of restaurant half-price coupons, all the empties in your garage - anything.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #6 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:46 am

arizonaplaya85 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:The Suns should go after Ramon Sessions, he would be great as the Suns pg as the future. He just had a tripple double the other day and his numbers are going up so he would probally be worth more than the MLE. Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks. That's if the Suns stay in the run-n-gun system.

If the Suns decide to go in the defensive minded direction they should dump as much salary as they can and go after some defensive players like Paul Milsap, Trevor Ariza, etc.

Amare for Sessions? Are you f*ckin (Please Use More Appropriate Word) dude, seriously get the fk out of here.

I come on here to read good ideas from fans but come on sessions and ablino guy for Amare?

I said draft picks also, remember Amares value has gone down alot because of the economy, his injuries, etc.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #7 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:47 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
arizonaplaya85 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks.

Amare for Sessions? Are you f*ckin (Please Use More Appropriate Word) dude, seriously get the fk out of here.

I come on here to read good ideas from fans but come on sessions and ablino guy for Amare?

---- This your first exposure to MVF? She wants to send Nash anywhere for anything at all - a book of restaurant half-price coupons, all the empties in your garage - anything.

I never said anything about trading Nash on this thread and it's "he" by the way...

JohnVancouver · Post #8 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 4:19 am

I never said anything about trading Nash on this thread and it's "he" by the way...[/quote]

--- I'm pretty sure it isn't

OrangeNation · Post #9 » by **OrangeNation** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:00 am

Nash + Lopez for Calderon + TOR's pick
Amare + ours pick + Barbosa for Jason Thompson + SAC's picks + filler
J-Rich for Jeff Green + Nick (or Watson)

Calderon / Dragic
Derozen / Free Agent
Jeff Green / Dudley
Jason Thompson / Griffin ?!
Shaq / B.J. Mullens ?!

Biff · Post #10 » by **Biff** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:29 am

MaryvalesFinest wrote:
arizonaplaya85 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:The Suns should go after Ramon Sessions, he would be great as the Suns pg as the future. He just had a tripple double the other day and his numbers are going up so he would probally be worth more than the MLE. Maybe the Suns can do a sign and trade with the Bucks, maybe trade Amare for Sessions, the albino guy and some draft picks. That's if the Suns stay in the run-n-gun system.

If the Suns decide to go in the defensive minded direction they should dump as much salary as they can and go after some defensive players like Paul Milsap, Trevor Ariza, etc.

Amare for Sessions? Are you f*ckin (Please Use More Appropriate Word) dude, seriously get the fk out of here.

I come on here to read good ideas from fans but come on sessions and ablino guy for Amare?

I said draft picks also, remember Amares value has gone down alot because of the economy, his injuries, etc.

His value in a trade has very little to do with the economy since his contract is pretty in-line with his talent level (your argument would work if you were talking about someone like Rashard Lewis). Since you also have to take back salary in a trade, the economy argument holds little water. The only relevance is his attitude, potential to leave after contract is up and injury issues.

His value for a contract extension is related to the economy however.

TXSun · Post #11 » by **TXSun** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:52 pm

OrangeNation wrote:Nash + Lopez for Calderon + TOR's pick
Amare + ours pick + Barbosa for Jason Thompson + SAC's picks + filler
J-Rich for Jeff Green + Nick (or Watson)

Calderon / Dragic
Derozen / Free Agent
Jeff Green / Dudley
Jason Thompson / Griffin ?!
Shaq / B.J. Mullens ?!

ayyy no no no no! please wtf are you talking about? Horrible proposals.

pidi · Post #12 » by **pidi** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:19 pm

trade shaq for baron davis and marcus camby...

TXSun · Post #13 » by **TXSun** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:27 pm

pidi wrote:trade shaq for baron davis and marcus camby...

i would highly consider that.

realsunsfan · Post #14 » by **realsunsfan** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 4:04 pm

TXSun wrote:
pidi wrote:trade shaq for baron davis and marcus camby...

i would highly consider that.

Baron Davis ??? No way !!! Especially with his contract.............

pidi · Post #15 » by **pidi** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:12 pm

realsunsfan wrote:
TXSun wrote:
pidi wrote:trade shaq for baron davis and marcus camby...

i would highly consider that.

Baron Davis ??? No way !!! Especially with his contract.............

haha, that would mean the step-brothers are back in town. get youre hands off my ass steve nash..
i would love it..

Sun Scorched · Post #16 » by **Sun Scorched** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:14 pm

I think Artest would be a fantastic addition. If we have the MLE, throw it at him all day long.

Post #17 » by **Miklo** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:45 pm

I don't know if Artest comes here considering the field of MLE and above offers he gets this offseason.

Sun Scorched · Post #18 » by **Sun Scorched** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 9:01 pm

Artest' salary this past season was at about $7.4 million. MLE is usually around $5-5.5 million. I can't imagine many teams willing to spend more than the MLE, that would mean the only differentiation would be the ability to contend.

I think the Suns could be players at the MLE.

phxsports · Post #19 » by **phxsports** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 12:05 am

would anybody consider signing iverson
This would be the best offensive line up in the nba ( No defense )

Nash
Iverson
Richardson
Stoudemire
Shaq

hitachi7 · Post #20 » by **hitachi7** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 4:03 am

I badly want Artest. It's hard to say what offers he's going to get because there can be chemistry issues with him. He had trouble contributing efficiently with Tmac this year. Still, I think he would fit fine with our offense while drastically improving our defense. He is shooting over 40% from 3 this year and has had some other comparable years. If he buys into the system he would get a ton of iso situations on the block where he can dominate.

He's probably worthy of 12-13 mil a year but he didn't get that after his great seasons in SAC so it's hard to say.