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Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:38 am
by enigmatics
Mavericks owner Mark Cuban admitted in an interview with the Star-Telegram that the team has lost money in recent seasons.
"Yeah. We've lost money most of the years," Cuban said when asked about a Forbes report that the club lost $13.6 million last season.
"I'd rather win than make more money. I've got money. I'd just rather win," Cuban admitted.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:47 am
by DaDragicShow
Sarver take notes please.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:48 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Very few owners are willing to spend money, the Lakers, Knicks, Mavericks, Cavaliers and Trailblazers are the only teams that do that. Even the third biggest market team the Bulls owner doesn't like paying the luxury tax. Yeah it would be nice if Sarver would but for the 5 teams that do the other 25 teams don't.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:07 am
by rsavaj
Cuban's a billionaire, Sarver's a millionaire. Note excusing Sarver for the crap that he's put us through, but they're not in similar positions of power.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:43 am
by chrice
It works the other way too. When you start winning, money starts coming in also.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:06 am
by BurningHeart
Has Cuban lost $250 million in the last year, though? I'm not excusing Sarver, but he needs to sell the team.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:33 pm
by eastsidecrossover
And how many championships does his team have?? Money does not always win, especially championships. What you need is a wise owner who is not afraid to pay the lux tax at times, but spend wisely on a good players.
2nd of all, the suns right now are the 6th highest paid team. That is not cheap and he has not been cheap to that point. With that said, the suns have the most money next year committed to 9 guys at or around 76mil. Im not defending him because I can’t stand the man and think he has not been that smart of an owner, but like burningheart has said, Sarver has lost a lot of money. To me, it just shows how some fans have no clue when threads are started like this.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:25 pm
by Inconspicuous
he's not cheap, he's stupid. sells picks, and then overpays dragic with the money saved from selling those picks. says "GTFO JOE JOHNSON", and then gives marcus banks a ridiculous contract. trades away kurt thomas + 2 1st rounders, and then trades marion for a $20 million contract in shaq
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:04 pm
by chrice
eastsidecrossover wrote:And how many championships does his team have?? Money does not always win, especially championships. What you need is a wise owner who is not afraid to pay the lux tax at times, but spend wisely on a good players.
2nd of all, the suns right now are the 6th highest paid team.
I disagree that money wouldn't have increased our chances of winning a title when we faced the Spurs. Even with the Horry incident, and in other years, I believe that if we had kept Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas on the team, we would have been able to beat them--not to mention if we had kept our picks. The spending right now is irrelevant. Too little too late. They started spending the most when Nash fell off his prime. Spending back then when we were legit contenders would have been smart. Right now is stupid spending. So on that front I agree. We have been spending at the wrong time, and on the wrong guys.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:06 pm
by chrice
Inconspicuous wrote:he's not cheap, he's stupid. sells picks, and then overpays dragic with the money saved from selling those picks. says "GTFO JOE JOHNSON", and then gives marcus banks a ridiculous contract. trades away kurt thomas + 2 1st rounders, and then trades marion for a $20 million contract in shaq
+1. QFT
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:45 am
by KayZee
like the previous posters said he is just stupid not cheap
he BORROWED money to buy this team, that means he can't afford to lose money which also means he can't overspend no matter how much he loves this game
if he loses money consistently then he will be out of business pretty soon
anyone who thinks Sarver should be spending like Cuban clearly has never owned a business and should never own one because this is definitely not your thing
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:20 am
by Miklo
Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:28 am
by Inconspicuous
Miklo wrote:Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
and then the season after, nash make the mavs regret letting him go by dropping 30+ in the playoffs against them
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:12 am
by enigmatics
Miklo wrote:Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
How do we know that had to do with money?
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:39 am
by Miklo
enigmatics wrote:Miklo wrote:Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
How do we know that had to do with money?
It was widely known that they didn't re-sign Nash because they didn't want to throw that much money at an aging PG with injury and defense concerns. Every owner has to make decisions to spend or not spend money - its in this case a matter of who is more vocal about it.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:50 pm
by TsunamiZC
Miklo wrote:Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
The Nash that never even sniffed the finals with a stacked team ? Pfft ...the Mavs got way better without ole' Nashty
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:05 pm
by Sun Scorched
TsunamiZC wrote:Miklo wrote:Can't they all be like Cuban?
Were'nt saying that when he let Nash go to immediately blossom into then the best PG in the NBA
The Nash that never even sniffed the finals with a stacked team ? Pfft ...the Mavs got way better without ole' Nashty
Are you referencing the Mavs only trip to the finals in the last decade? I'd be careful with that...
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:48 am
by rsavaj
Sun Scorched wrote:
Are you referencing the Mavs only trip to the finals in the last decade? I'd be careful with that...
He's also referencing the same Mavericks team that won 67 games and then lost in the first round.
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:10 pm
by b-ball forever
Like others have said, Cuban spends a lotta money but also makes dumb decisions and is notorious for keeping the wrong players.
Trading away a young Kidd was stupid, letting Nash walk for nothing was stupid, trading away Devin Harris + draft picks for an aging Kidd was stupid, overpaying Diop/Finley/Dampier/Stackhouse etc was stupid, still not realizing that having Dirk as your franchise player won't go all the way after all this time surounded by a lotta various multi-talented casts and zillions of cash spent is stpuid.
Teh Mavs have a fuggin 92 mill payroll and their post Nash-walk track record only consists of getting butt-raped by Nashty in the 2005 second round, managing to choke against the relatively weak Heat team in the 2006 finals, getting eliminated by the 8th seeded Warriors in 2007, getting embarrassed again in the 2008 first round, and a 2nd round exit in 2009...
Re: Can't they all be like Cuban?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:24 pm
by rsavaj
Was Cuban the owner when Kidd left the first time?