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WTFsunsFTW wrote:Dwight Howard is a max player, period, and here's the crazy part: he gets better every year, and his flaws are blatant enough to be fixed with relative ease.

Is it safe for me to infer that WTF means offensively, since he is the defensive player of the year. Is it also safe for me to infer he means at the FT line as well, because that is another WEAK aspect of his game. Okay then, I will.

Is it easier to learn to play defense in the NBA (all things relative) or offense?? I have never seen anyone come in the league limited in total offensive skill set ie, dribbling, quickness, smoothness, moves, shooting and a natural feel for the game, then learn how to be an effective force offensively. For example, Dennis Rodman, Bruce Bowen and Ben Wallace. I haven't seen very many, if any poor FT shooters go from a 50%+ shooter to an 80% plus shooter after 5yrs. They are pretty much what they are.

I have seen players decide to give more EFFORT defensively and become very good defensive player, such as Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. So you could call it common sense based off of observed data, but I do think a player can reach his defensive of level easier than his offensive level. That being the case

You are wrong...MOMMA IS RIGHT!

BTW, let me see him come back from micro fracture surgery, improve from a 60% ft to an 84% ft'r and develope a 20 jumper that is butter!! Then we can about the "crazy" part.

The question is, what skill set is easier to improve, Offense or Defense (In basketball) and why do you feel that way?

They way most players are payed would imply offense is more valued, because it is more difficult to develope. But hey what is your opinion?

Dude....why on earth would you make a separate thread for this? Seriously?

Hahaha

I thought this thread was a debate on which POSTER would be easier to develop... WTF or JMac

Frank Lee wrote:Hahaha

I thought this thread was a debate on which POSTER would be easier to develop... WTF or JMac

That was my thought as well lol

you're treading a fine line JMac....I like reading your posts but this is completely unnecessary when you already have the other thread alive and kicking...albeit the wording, as others have noted, is a little...off

TASTIC wrote:you're treading a fine line JMac....I like reading your posts but this is completely unnecessary when you already have the other thread alive and kicking...albeit the wording, as others have noted, is a little...off

Lol.

Let it go then.

ha...have to admit I always have a chuckle when reading. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or genuine sometimes haha...

hey j-mac, who talks about offense or defense? a very intelligent guy once told me: you can´t teach height ?"?"?"??!?!?!? haha

Right now, there's no doubt in my mind I would take Dwight Howard over Amar'e. You need to understand, Amar'e's eye injury is VERY serious. Also, Dwight hasn't already busted his knees, is younger, taller, and becoming a better FT shooter by the day. Working with Ewing has REALLY helped him, and even though I have complete faith in the Phoenix Suns Medical Staff, I think between the 2, I take Dwight without a doubt. Usually, championship teams have a DEFENSIVE big in the middle, and wings that can score.

rsavaj wrote:

Frank Lee wrote:Hahaha

I thought this thread was a debate on which POSTER would be easier to develop... WTF or JMac

That was my thought as well lol

+2

Frank Lee wrote:Hahaha

I thought this thread was a debate on which POSTER would be easier to develop... WTF or JMac

fool me too but only because there's already another thread talking about the same crapp.

kerr& sarver>jmac1

ZING!

chrice wrote:

rsavaj wrote:

Frank Lee wrote:Hahaha

I thought this thread was a debate on which POSTER would be easier to develop... WTF or JMac

That was my thought as well lol

+2

+3. lol you're starting whole threads based on one quote from one poster. You really own this place don't ya haha.

WTF meant that Dwight's offense is a one-trick pony right now that the Lakers have figured out. If you give him another two or three moves in the paint over the summer, he'll be unguardable. His FT% could probably rise up to something decent like 70-75% when he works on it more.

JMac1 wrote:Is it easier to learn to play defense in the NBA (all things relative) or offense?? I have never seen anyone come in the league limited in total offensive skill set ie, dribbling, quickness, smoothness, moves, shooting and a natural feel for the game, then learn how to be an effective force offensively. For example, Dennis Rodman, Bruce Bowen and Ben Wallace. I haven't seen very many, if any poor FT shooters go from a 50%+ shooter to an 80% plus shooter after 5yrs. They are pretty much what they are.

Jared Dudley came in the league with nothing but hustle and basketball IQ. He can't dribble, can't drive, got no moves, not a good shooter and lacked quickness and athleticism, but towards the end of this season, he worked on his 3pt shot and began to contribute by spreading the defense. There's a lot of ways guys can contribute offensively, from 3pt shots to tip-ins to spot up shots, these types of offense contributions are not something you need to be offensively talented in, you just need to know where you're suppose to be when the play is called.

As opposed to offense, it's very tough to teach a guy to play good defense. All things considered, hustle and energy only goes so far. It's tough to teach defense because it requires the player to already have the defensive fundamentals. Mirroring the ball, staying low, forcing your man one way, things like that are taught to you when you start playing, and if you haven't been doing those things on a regular basis by the time you get to the NBA, you're going to have problems.

To me, defense is more about instincts where as offense is more about technique. Technique you can teach and refine, instincts you're born with.

lilfishi22 wrote:To me, defense is more about instincts where as offense is more about technique. Technique you can teach and refine, instincts you're born with.

+6

if JMac1 starts all these threads while the suns aren't even playing; im afraid to see whats going to happen when we start rolling again next season.



Hopefully the front page doesn't look like this:

Amare just missed a free throw JMac1 0 replies
Gentry just drank some Vitaminwater JMac1 0 replies
Steve Nash tweeted his wife at half-time JMac1 0 replies
Shaq hid Lou's bike JMac1 0 replies
Tucker did some nice break-dancing at intro JMac1 0 replies
Barbosa still recieves letter's from Dan D'antoni JMac1 0 replies
Dwight is a MAX player, really? JMac1 0 replies
Amare took off his goggles, lets debate this JMac1 0 replies
Nash misses bell or diaw more? Debate! JMac1 0 replies
Debate WTF vs JMac1 which is easier to develope?? JMac1 0 replies
Amare just missed a free throw, part two dabate! JMac1 0 replies


i dont know what is worse this or the guy who had a man-crush on stromile swift.

ihateginobili wrote:if JMac1 starts all these threads while the suns aren't even playing; im afraid to see whats going to happen when we start rolling again next season.



Hopefully the front page doesn't look like this:

Amare just missed a free throw JMac1 0 replies
Gentry just drank some Vitaminwater JMac1 0 replies
Steve Nash tweeted his wife at half-time JMac1 0 replies
Shaq hid Lou's bike JMac1 0 replies
Tucker did some nice break-dancing at intro JMac1 0 replies
Barbosa still recieves letter's from Dan D'antoni JMac1 0 replies
Dwight is a MAX player, really? JMac1 0 replies
Amare took off his goggles, lets debate this JMac1 0 replies
Nash misses bell or diaw more? Debate! JMac1 0 replies
Debate WTF vs JMac1 which is easier to develope?? JMac1 0 replies
Amare just missed a free throw, part two dabate! JMac1 0 replies


i dont know what is worse this or the guy who had a man-crush on stromile swift.

hahahaaha you nailed it ihateginobili . Sorry JMac1 but it's the truth.

Is this the same guy who accused me of stalking him?

^ Correct!