Suns Expected to Keep Amar'e/ closer to extending Nash

Clout · Post #1 » by **Clout** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:56 pm

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... -suns.html

Will the FO make up its mind. Are we in transition or not? Are we trading Amar'e or not? Its interesting that there is no talk of extending Amar'e to a max level deal, only that he is in their plans for the upcoming season. Kerr/Sarver are driving me nuts with what seems like a lack of a definite plan.

Side Note: I wonder what Nash said Hill.
"Hey Grant, Kerr and Sarver wanted me to call you and read you, I mean, tell you, you should really come back and play with the Suns this year because we are going to be GREAT. Never mind the fact that playing in NY is the ultimate dream, they are offering you tons of money, and you get to play with the best coach around in D'antoni. Man what am I saying? Just take the money, play in NY and I'll be there ASAP"

NashtyNas · Post #2 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:02 pm

Damn, you beat me to it! Good news. Amar'e will get extended next summer to the max deal, Nash will get a 18/2 extension, and we'll probably look to dump Richardson this season. Seems good to me

JMac1 · Post #3 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:28 pm

We will see if Nash isn't greedy and he is about the team when he signs his extension, the same goes for Hill. I appreciate what he has done, but he has made his money. If Hill wants to start on a playoff team, he needs to slow his role with his contract demands as well. Amare can take 2 million less than the max if he wants to contend, see Duncan, Jack. JRich is holding up progress. I'll trade him for Dalembert, but not Ben. Ben contract NEEDS to fall off of the books, PERIOD! If we can't get rid of Jrich, he needs to play some defense and earn the 5million dollars he is overpaid.

I don't want Wilcox, he will clog the middle. Give me Frye all day long. He fits our style well. See Tim Thomas. People talked about him like a dog until Nash unleashed him on the Fakers. We will never be a great defensive of team, but we can be very competitive.

You never know what can happen at the dance, but you have to be invited to find out!!Shoot for the title and get bad, shoot to play our style and be good. I prefer the latter.

NASH/Dragic
JRich/LB/Sasha
Hill/Dudley/Clark
Frye/Lou/Clark
Amare/Lopez

Frye keeps the SPACING!!!

Frank Lee · Post #4 » by **Frank Lee** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:41 pm

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Keep it Simple Steve-pid

Something smells fishy here.

There is absolutely NO RUSH to re-ink Stat, from a management POV. They have plenty of time.

Are they doing this JUST to appease him ?
Are they doing this to show Nash they want to contend ? (thus re-ink SN too? *)
Do they think they can offer him less NOW rather than wait for an statistical explosion in the Box Score ?
Do they intend to DEAL him mid season ? (he will be more marketable with a price tag)
Are they really committed to making this Stat's team ?

I just don't trust much of anything from the mouths of these guys. Too much talk.

* If Nash is extended, does he still make 13 mill this yr ?

Sun Scorched · Post #5 » by **Sun Scorched** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:48 pm

JMac1 wrote:I don't want Wilcox, he will clog the middle. Give me Frye all day long. He fits our style well. See Tim Thomas. People talked about him like a dog until Nash unleashed him on the Fakers. We will never be a great defensive of team, but we can be very competitive.

You never know what can happen at the dance, but you have to be invited to find out!!Shoot for the title and get bad, shoot to play our style and be good. I prefer the latter.

NASH/Dragic
JRich/LB/Sasha
Hill/Dudley/Clark
Frye/Lou/Clark
Amare/Lopez

Frye keeps the SPACING!!!

Spacing is good, but rebounding is better. That team can't rebound worth anything. The idea behind someone like Wilcox is that he can be the bruising rebounder down low. Frye would thrive in an up tempo system, but he would be forced to guard PFs with Stoudemire guarding Cs on a regular basis = nightmare and consistant foul trouble for both. We need to focus on keeping Stoudemire on the floor for as long as possible.

NashtyNas · Post #6 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:48 pm

Yes, Nash still makes 13 this year as long as we don't cut him, which would be stupid because ~6mil plus is guaranteed no matter what. Also, I really think we can resign Hill + Nash, dump Richardson with the help of Pavs, and let our expirings expire + reink Amar'e next season when he has more incentives to do it (the extra year at extra cash from us) and pick up some good players and keep contending rather than blow it up.

Sun Scorched · Post #7 » by **Sun Scorched** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:52 pm

Frank Lee wrote:* If Nash is extended, does he still make 13 mill this yr ?

That depends, we do have a team option on this year of his contract. The FO, with an understanding reached with Nash beforehand, can skip the option and just sign him to his next contract.

It sounds to me more and more that Nash is guiding the offseason a bit. The contract negotiations, waiting to "see" the direction of the team, calling Grant with the PHX sales pitch, etc.

If I was Nash, I would say I want 14 million, then come down off of it and say okay, but with the extra money you sign player x or players x & y. You know, with the money you're saving on me give me some tools to work with this next year.

Judah · Post #8 » by **Judah** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:06 pm

Good news for you

JMac1 · Post #9 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:17 pm

[quote="Sun Scorched

Spacing is good, but rebounding is better. That team can't rebound worth anything. The idea behind someone like Wilcox is that he can be the bruising rebounder down low. Frye would thrive in an up tempo system, but he would be forced to guard PFs with Stoudemire guarding Cs on a regular basis = nightmare and consistant foul trouble for both. We need to focus on keeping Stoudemire on the floor for as long as possible.

True, but Frye is 6'11, I don't think he is that weak and I don't think Wilcox is that good, thus he would have been signed already. I know why Frye isn't signed, Clev, PHX and others are pursuing him. Who is pursuing Chris? [/quote]

Frye and Amare won't be that far off of Marion and Amare when it comes down to defense and rebounding bigs. We have to double like the old days. Didn't we have Tim Thomas and Boris down there before, in 06 playoffs??

justinb80 · Post #10 » by **justinb80** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:43 pm

Yay, one more whole year of uncertainty!!

JMac1 · Post #11 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:00 pm

justinb80 wrote:Yay, one more whole year of uncertainty!!

I disagree. They are trying to sign Hil and Nash. Amare is staying along with SSOL and Gentry. We know how we are going to play from day one, unlike the Porter regime. The only uncertainty is is Amare going to be the 4 or 5. If we get Frye, I bet he plays the 5, thus he suggested it and Frye plays the 4. 6'10 and 6'11 is an inch off of 6'11 and 7'0 front court. Frye will have to toughen up, if we sign him. Frye can guard the center and Amare can guard the PF on defense. I would be optimistic with our bench and

Nash
JRich
Hill
Frye
Amare

as starters. Lopez gives us more sized when needed, along with Clark. Every starter on offense could help score. Just have to get after it and play TEAM defense a la 2005.

Fo-Real · Post #12 » by **Fo-Real** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:30 pm

Yeah lets be realistic, if we start Fry, and Amare in the front court, Fry is actually the C. He will guard the toughter guy, if only to be the one to pick up all the early fouls, and Amare will be the one running 2 man game with Nash, like the Pf. he is. So just flip flop them on the lineups, keep it real.

justinb80 · Post #13 » by **justinb80** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:39 pm

JMac1 wrote:
justinb80 wrote:Yay, one more whole year of uncertainty!!

I disagree. They are trying to sign Hil and Nash. Amare is staying along with SSOL and Gentry. We know how we are going to play from day one, unlike the Porter regime. The only uncertainty is is Amare going to be the 4 or 5. If we get Frye, I bet he plays the 5, thus he suggested it and Frye plays the 4. 6'10 and 6'11 is an inch off of 6'11 and 7'0 front court. Frye will have to toughen up, if we sign him. Frye can guard the center and Amare can guard the PF on defense. I would be optimistic with our bench and

Nash
JRich
Hill
Frye
Amare

as starters. Lopez gives us more sized when needed, along with Clark. Every starter on offense could help score. Just have to get after it and play TEAM defense a la 2005.

Until they re-sign Amare to a long-term extension (or trade him), the Suns' future is uncertain.

TXSun · Post #14 » by **TXSun** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:58 pm

keeping Amare is only 1/4 of what we need to achieve this off season.

1. keep Amare
2. extend Nash
3. resign Hill
4. trade Wallace for Chandler

Clout · Post #15 » by **Clout** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:03 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... type=lgns&

Just posted this in the Grant Hill thread. Thought it would be good to go here as well. Yahoo is reporting that Hill is going to sign with Suns on large part because the Suns are close to signing an extension with Nash. Also they have reported that they have signed Frye.

TXSun · Post #16 » by **TXSun** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:12 pm

GREAT FIND!

looks like we are 3/4 done. Now we just need Chandler.

TXSun · Post #17 » by **TXSun** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:13 pm

Clout wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-hillsuns071009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&

Just posted this in the Grant Hill thread. Thought it would be good to go here as well. Yahoo is reporting that Hill is going to sign with Suns on large part because the Suns are close to signing an extension with Nash. Also they have reported that they have signed Frye.

you might wanna post this on a new thread.

Post #18 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:15 pm

Good news, good news.

phxsports · Post #19 » by **phxsports** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:52 pm

finally some good news

Frank Lee · Post #20 » by **Frank Lee** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:08 pm

TXSun wrote:keeping Amare is only 1/4 of what we need to achieve this off season.

1. keep Amare
2. extend Nash
3. resign Hill
4. trade Wallace for Chandler

Have you read any of the thoughts of others on this ? I once thought that Chandler was the way to go.... but now have serious doubts. Besides, that deal will be there for 6 months. I would at least wait and see if TC can go a full 25-30 mins a game before doing anything, especially spending 12 mill X 2. Try to think what that will buy next year.

Way to go GH.