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Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:19 pm
by statisback

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:22 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
J-Rich for Q-Rich and a draft pick get it done Kerr

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:33 pm
by harshey1388
i read somewhere else on a thread some one say they feel sorry for the guy and i agree man sucks to be him. but in all honesty he has declined in his play and skills, so it is what it is

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:04 pm
by plonden
Don't feel sorry for Q. His contract was absurd ($9 million this season!) for a player who has clearly lost a step and whose success was more based upon the system than his actual skills. That expiring deal is very attractive to any team in the league this season so it's no surprise that it is getting passed around.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:06 pm
by DirtyDez
Q-Rich = Worst Suns playoff performance of all-time... Probably would've been different if JJ was healthy

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:12 pm
by harshey1388
DirtyDez wrote:Q-Rich = Worst Suns playoff performance of all-time... Probably would've been different if JJ was healthy


refresh my memory this was JJ with the eye injury right? and if so man i remember that.. his eye was ALL messed up.. that ish must have hurt like hell!

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:18 pm
by DirtyDez
I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:22 pm
by harshey1388
yeah it was his orbital bone area. ouch! ha

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:36 am
by Qwigglez
DirtyDez wrote:I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

We didn't play SA that year. Dallas beat SA and went to the Finals and lost against the Heat. Man, that would have been our year if JJ didn't get hurt. The league had an off-year.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:05 am
by statisback
Qwigglez wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

We didn't play SA that year. Dallas beat SA and went to the Finals and lost against the Heat. Man, that would have been our year if JJ didn't get hurt. The league had an off-year.



WRONG!

JJ was hit by Stackhouse in 2nd round against Mavs and got injured. The Suns managed to beat the Mavs in 6 games anyways.

They then lost to SA in WCF in 5 games

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:06 am
by Miklo
Qrich lol

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:11 am
by Risensun
Sucks to see him passed around like a douby and I liked him when he was with us, but there's no way in HELL he should have gotten that ridiculous contract.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:15 am
by DirtyDez
statisback wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

We didn't play SA that year. Dallas beat SA and went to the Finals and lost against the Heat. Man, that would have been our year if JJ didn't get hurt. The league had an off-year.



WRONG!

JJ was hit by Stackhouse in 2nd round against Mavs and got injured. The Suns managed to beat the Mavs in 6 games anyways.

They then lost to SA in WCF in 5 games

+1, with a healthy JJ we still would've been beat

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:00 am
by Phystic
plonden wrote:Don't feel sorry for Q. His contract was absurd ($9 million this season!) for a player who has clearly lost a step and whose success was more based upon the system than his actual skills. That expiring deal is very attractive to any team in the league this season so it's no surprise that it is getting passed around.




I agree that he has lost a step. Injuries and age have definitely taken a toll. But he has a lot of skill. It wasn't because of the system. Infact, IMO D'Antoni ruined Q's career. After his stint with us everybody saw him as a 3pt spot up shooter when that is NOT his game. He was pure MONEY in the post before D'Antoni got his hands on him. He was also one of the best rebounding guards I've seen in quite some time. And actually he was solid defensively. But after D'Antoni got him to shoot like 500 3's people thought that was his game, he was then misused then injuries hit and his career has fallen apart. It's sad to see. I liked his game before the Suns, and I was constantly begging for D'Antoni do use Q more in the post.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:01 am
by JohnVancouver
statisback wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

We didn't play SA that year. Dallas beat SA and went to the Finals and lost against the Heat. Man, that would have been our year if JJ didn't get hurt. The league had an off-year.



WRONG!

JJ was hit by Stackhouse in 2nd round against Mavs and got injured. The Suns managed to beat the Mavs in 6 games anyways.

They then lost to SA in WCF in 5 games


No, was it not the year - 2006 - that Amar'e and Kurt were also out? Lakers, Clippers, then lost in WCF to Mavs, who lost to Heat
or year before?

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:07 am
by JohnVancouver
I'm wrong - you're right. It was 2005

wikipedia:

Steve Nash and the Run n' Gun era (2004–present)
A home game against the Sacramento Kings in the 2006–07 NBA season.

The beginning of 2004 saw the departure of the face of Suns management since the team's inception, when Jerry Colangelo announced that the Phoenix Suns were to be sold to an investment group headed by San Diego-based business executive (and Tucson native) Robert Sarver for $401 million. However, the 2004–05 season marked the Suns' return to the NBA's elite, with the Suns finishing with the best record in the NBA at 62–20, tying their franchise record that was set by the 1992–93 team. This feat was made possible by the off-season unrestricted FA signing of All-Star point guard Steve Nash from Dallas. Nash would go on to win the MVP award that season. Amar'e Stoudemire and Shawn Marion were named All-Stars that year and first year coach, Mike D'Antoni, was named NBA Coach of the Year.

In the 2005 NBA Playoffs, Phoenix was the first seed in the Western Conference, and because it owned the NBA's best record, it was guaranteed home-court advantage throughout the playoffs. The Suns swept the Memphis Grizzlies 4–0 and defeated the fourth-seeded Dallas Mavericks in the second round 4–2, Nash forcing Game 6 into OT with a 3-pointer in the dying seconds. In the Western Conference Finals, the Suns played the San Antonio Spurs who won the series 4–1, ending Phoenix's outstanding season, partly due to Joe Johnson missing the first two games of the series. Joe Johnson went on to start the remaining games where he averaged 40 minutes per game and 18.3 PPG. The Suns lost the first 2 at home, as well as the following game in San Antonio to fall behind 3–0 in the series, escaping with a win in Game 4 at San Antonio 111–106. The team then lost Game 5 at home 101–95 to be eliminated from the playoffs. Stoudemire averaged a staggering 37.0 ppg, the highest ever by a player in their first Conference Finals.[citation needed]

The 2005–06 NBA season began with Stoudemire undergoing microfracture surgery in his knee on October 18, 2005. He missed all but three games that year. Along with that, promising shooting guard Joe Johnson demanded a Sign and Trade deal to the Atlanta Hawks, in which the Suns got Boris Diaw along with two future first round picks. Other acquisitions this year included Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas. Despite the turnover in players, the Suns were once again able to win the Pacific going 54–28 and capturing the second seed in the Western Conference. Nash was awarded his second consecutive NBA Most Valuable Player Award, becoming the second point-guard (Magic Johnson was the first) to win the award in consecutive seasons times. Also, Diaw was named NBA Most Improved Player.

The Suns began the 2006 Western Conference Playoffs as favorites against the Los Angeles Lakers. After winning Game 1 in Phoenix, they found themselves trailing in the series 3–1 after impressive performances by Laker shooting guard Kobe Bryant. However, the Suns went on to win three straight games. They won Game 5 easily at home. With 7:33 left in the game, Suns guard Raja Bell grabbed Kobe Bryant around the neck and threw him down as the Lakers star drove to the basket. Bell earned a technical foul, his second of the game, and an automatic ejection. The Suns took game 6 in OT, their first OT win all season despite 50 points from Bryant and Bell out serving a one-game suspension (for a flagrant foul against Bryant in Game 5) with last second help from mid-season acquisition Tim Thomas. On their home court, the Suns won Game 7 121–90, eliminating the Lakers for the first time since 1993. The Suns became only the eighth team in NBA history to win a playoff series after being behind 3–1.

In the second round, the Suns faced the Los Angeles Clippers. The series was played closely, with both teams trading games on each others' courts. The series was 2–2 and The Suns faced a huge deficit in Game 5 but fought back and won in double OT and after a Game 6 loss finally won the series in the decisive seventh game on their home court at US Airways Center, winning by a margin of 20 with an NBA record 15 3-point FG's May 22, 2006.

They went on to play the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals. Underdogs this time, The Suns took Game 1 in Dallas by a single point and their May 30 victory in Game 4 marked the most wins thus far for the franchise in a Conference Finals series since the 1993 season. Many credit this success (despite losing Stoudemire) to the emergence of Diaw, Bell (out for two games of the series due to injury), and Barbosa as clutch playoff performers; and an overall team depth they did not possess at all last season. The Suns fought hard in Games 5 and 6 but clearly were no match as they were blown out by a combined 25 points and eliminated from the series on June 3, 2006 in Game 6. It was yet another disappointing end for the Suns.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:58 am
by Qwigglez
statisback wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:I think JJ broke his face against Dallas in 2nd round that year, i believe he might have played a game or two against S.A. with a mask on... Can't remember

We didn't play SA that year. Dallas beat SA and went to the Finals and lost against the Heat. Man, that would have been our year if JJ didn't get hurt. The league had an off-year.



WRONG!

JJ was hit by Stackhouse in 2nd round against Mavs and got injured. The Suns managed to beat the Mavs in 6 games anyways.

They then lost to SA in WCF in 5 games


Damn, my bad your right. For some reason this morning I thought it was 2006. But that was when Boris Diaw was on our squad.
Geez. Again that could have been our year too if Amare didn't have to get stupid surgery lol.
Suns could have had two championships :(

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:09 pm
by BostonSun
JohnVancouver wrote:I'm wrong - you're right. It was 2005

wikipedia:

Steve Nash and the Run n' Gun era (2004–present)
A home game against the Sacramento Kings in the 2006–07 NBA season.

The beginning of 2004 saw the departure of the face of Suns management since the team's inception, when Jerry Colangelo announced that the Phoenix Suns were to be sold to an investment group headed by San Diego-based business executive (and Tucson native) Robert Sarver for $401 million. However, the 2004–05 season marked the Suns' return to the NBA's elite, with the Suns finishing with the best record in the NBA at 62–20, tying their franchise record that was set by the 1992–93 team. This feat was made possible by the off-season unrestricted FA signing of All-Star point guard Steve Nash from Dallas. Nash would go on to win the MVP award that season. Amar'e Stoudemire and Shawn Marion were named All-Stars that year and first year coach, Mike D'Antoni, was named NBA Coach of the Year.

In the 2005 NBA Playoffs, Phoenix was the first seed in the Western Conference, and because it owned the NBA's best record, it was guaranteed home-court advantage throughout the playoffs. The Suns swept the Memphis Grizzlies 4–0 and defeated the fourth-seeded Dallas Mavericks in the second round 4–2, Nash forcing Game 6 into OT with a 3-pointer in the dying seconds. In the Western Conference Finals, the Suns played the San Antonio Spurs who won the series 4–1, ending Phoenix's outstanding season, partly due to Joe Johnson missing the first two games of the series. Joe Johnson went on to start the remaining games where he averaged 40 minutes per game and 18.3 PPG. The Suns lost the first 2 at home, as well as the following game in San Antonio to fall behind 3–0 in the series, escaping with a win in Game 4 at San Antonio 111–106. The team then lost Game 5 at home 101–95 to be eliminated from the playoffs. Stoudemire averaged a staggering 37.0 ppg, the highest ever by a player in their first Conference Finals.[citation needed]

The 2005–06 NBA season began with Stoudemire undergoing microfracture surgery in his knee on October 18, 2005. He missed all but three games that year. Along with that, promising shooting guard Joe Johnson demanded a Sign and Trade deal to the Atlanta Hawks, in which the Suns got Boris Diaw along with two future first round picks. Other acquisitions this year included Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas. Despite the turnover in players, the Suns were once again able to win the Pacific going 54–28 and capturing the second seed in the Western Conference. Nash was awarded his second consecutive NBA Most Valuable Player Award, becoming the second point-guard (Magic Johnson was the first) to win the award in consecutive seasons times. Also, Diaw was named NBA Most Improved Player.

The Suns began the 2006 Western Conference Playoffs as favorites against the Los Angeles Lakers. After winning Game 1 in Phoenix, they found themselves trailing in the series 3–1 after impressive performances by Laker shooting guard Kobe Bryant. However, the Suns went on to win three straight games. They won Game 5 easily at home. With 7:33 left in the game, Suns guard Raja Bell grabbed Kobe Bryant around the neck and threw him down as the Lakers star drove to the basket. Bell earned a technical foul, his second of the game, and an automatic ejection. The Suns took game 6 in OT, their first OT win all season despite 50 points from Bryant and Bell out serving a one-game suspension (for a flagrant foul against Bryant in Game 5) with last second help from mid-season acquisition Tim Thomas. On their home court, the Suns won Game 7 121–90, eliminating the Lakers for the first time since 1993. The Suns became only the eighth team in NBA history to win a playoff series after being behind 3–1.

In the second round, the Suns faced the Los Angeles Clippers. The series was played closely, with both teams trading games on each others' courts. The series was 2–2 and The Suns faced a huge deficit in Game 5 but fought back and won in double OT and after a Game 6 loss finally won the series in the decisive seventh game on their home court at US Airways Center, winning by a margin of 20 with an NBA record 15 3-point FG's May 22, 2006.

They went on to play the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals. Underdogs this time, The Suns took Game 1 in Dallas by a single point and their May 30 victory in Game 4 marked the most wins thus far for the franchise in a Conference Finals series since the 1993 season. Many credit this success (despite losing Stoudemire) to the emergence of Diaw, Bell (out for two games of the series due to injury), and Barbosa as clutch playoff performers; and an overall team depth they did not possess at all last season. The Suns fought hard in Games 5 and 6 but clearly were no match as they were blown out by a combined 25 points and eliminated from the series on June 3, 2006 in Game 6. It was yet another disappointing end for the Suns.


Reading that just brought tears to my eyes. Despite the dissapoint those were truely awesome years, awesome teams. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8ZukXs ... PL&index=7

absolutely no need for it, but amazing, none-the-less :lol:

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:40 pm
by rsavaj
if Minny buys him out he wouldn't be a bad pickup for the minimum. He can't shoot very well and his back is terrible, but his swag was phenomenal.

Re: Q Rich traded again for 3rd time in offseason

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:47 pm
by justinb80
I was just reading that there's a journalist in Minny who's saying he doesn't believe that Q-Rich will stay in town long. Let's go ... number four!