Simmons on Nash

BVPN · Post #1 » by **BVPN** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:22 pm

Some interesting stuff about Nash from Bill Simmons today...it's the last item in the column, #25.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ons/090727

Post #2 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:26 pm

Interesting take. Let's hope some miracle happens and we can play in the Finals over the next two years...

DirtyDez · Post #3 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:59 pm

He's right, Kerr would never trade Nash even though we could get great young talent for him

Post #4 » by **Qwigglez** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:10 pm

Lets hope injuries plague the likes of Kobe, Pau, Artest, Bynum, Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Jefferson, Dirk, Kidd, Marion, Billups, Anthony, Roy, Aldridge, Paul, West, Williams, Millsap, Yao, T-Mac. It would make it so much easier for the Suns to make it to the Finals. :lol:

ma_falaa_50 · Post #5 » by **ma_falaa_50** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:43 pm

Yao is out and so is T-mac. thats like part of their in-season tradition.

Sun Scorched · Post #6 » by **Sun Scorched** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:34 pm

The thing is, if Nash to fly to another team and won a championship... he would be an integral part of that championship.

It's much different with a Robert Horry, James Posey type... those guys who might play 12-15 minutes a game.

It would have been one of the greatest sports stories of this generation had Nash & Hill gotten their rings together. Two guys who deserve a ring more than anyone else in the NBA.

You know what though? I think there is a chance that this team could make the Semis, then who knows... this team isn't much different than 05-06.

Post #7 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:47 pm

Except instead of Marion, Raja, Boris and Kurt, we have Richardson...Dudley...Amundson and Lopez?

RaisingArizona · Post #8 » by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:49 pm

rsavaj wrote:Except instead of Marion, Raja, Boris and Kurt, we have Richardson...Dudley...Amundson and Lopez?

Exactly. Nash isn't even optimistic about competing. We're a 6th seed at best.

hunterxaz · Post #9 » by **hunterxaz** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:08 pm

Keeping Nash means we're still contenders. We're a playoff team if we're healthy and we can make some noise and even have a shot at winning it all.

There is no Nash trade we could have made that would have made us a better team.

Mr. Sun · Post #10 » by **Mr. Sun** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:11 pm

Best damn Nash quote in a while:

"I don't know if we'll be a contender or not," Nash said. "No one gave us Pau Gasol for nothing. I don't know where we'll be in the pecking order but I'm excited about our team. I really think it'll be a lot of fun and we can surprise some people."

hunterxaz · Post #11 » by **hunterxaz** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:52 pm

just like 04-05 baby.

Post #12 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:00 pm

Without JJ/Q/Marion. HELLS YEAH!

Sun Scorched · Post #13 » by **Sun Scorched** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:32 pm

rsavaj wrote:Except instead of Marion, Raja, Boris and Kurt, we have Richardson...Dudley...Amundson and Lopez?

Don't foget this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyBvbFiRJc

aIvin adams · Post #14 » by **aIvin adams** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:11 am

Sun Scorched wrote:
rsavaj wrote:Except instead of Marion, Raja, Boris and Kurt, we have Richardson...Dudley...Amundson and Lopez?

Don't foget this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyBvbFiRJc

uh. amare?

BVPN · Post #15 » by **BVPN** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:20 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
rsavaj wrote:Except instead of Marion, Raja, Boris and Kurt, we have Richardson...Dudley...Amundson and Lopez?

Exactly. Nash isn't even optimistic about competing. We're a 6th seed at best.

It's true that the odds are against us, but it doesn't really matter. I think part of the reason Nash didn't want to leave was that he didn't want to give up on our SSOL system...and I agree with that. We're just going to run and gun as far as we can, and if we go down, well at least we go down as who we are.

cold5 · Post #16 » by **cold5** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:03 am

Did anyone read the post in the general discussion in the big ben defender thread, someone there accused Nash of getting too many awards because he was overhyped by the media. Was that a fail or what?

BVPN · Post #17 » by **BVPN** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:21 am

There have always been Nash haters...I don't understand why, I mean I don't think Nash has ever done anything to incite hate. I mean there's people who criticize his defense, which is fine, but some people (who happen to usually be Laker fans) really seem to have something against him.

Post #18 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:26 am

Nash is my favourite player, but as much as I wanted to see him end his career here, I had hoped he be moved to a real contender. He'll get his ring to back up his individual accolades and maybe we'll get some nice assets back and rebuild properly. Now it just feels like we're in one of those relationships where you're together for the sake of being together. Neither sides really benefits, but we're together.

But Simmons was right, if Nash left, I don't think there's one fan who would blame for not bringing back a championship. If anything it's our FO and owners fault for not managing our roster and finances the right way. Nash had a way out and it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity.

The odds are definitely against us, but I'll keep my hopes up.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #19 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:30 am

BVPN wrote:There have always been Nash haters...I don't understand why, I mean I don't think Nash has ever done anything to incite hate. I mean there's people who criticize his defense, which is fine, but some people (who happen to usually be Laker fans) really seem to have something against him.

I'm one of the few Suns fans that isn't fond of him either. Has to do with his desire to play both ends of the floor and his days with the Mavericks and than showing he doesn't care about winning but that's a story for a different day of the week.

BVPN · Post #20 » by **BVPN** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:47 am

MaryvalesFinest wrote:
BVPN wrote:There have always been Nash haters...I don't understand why, I mean I don't think Nash has ever done anything to incite hate. I mean there's people who criticize his defense, which is fine, but some people (who happen to usually be Laker fans) really seem to have something against him.

I'm one of the few Suns fans that isn't fond of him either. Has to do with his desire to play both ends of the floor and his days with the Mavericks and than showing he doesn't care about winning but that's a story for a different day of the week.

As long as they are legitimate criticisms of his play, that's fine. I'm more referring to the people who insist all his awards are due to hype, or just call him an overrated scrub or some such thing.