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Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:48 am
by Nando88
THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST ARTICLE FROM AZCENTRAL IN A LOOOOONG TIME! LOL

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/08/19/20090819spt-boivinshaq.html

Shaq's behind-the-back move
O'Neal takes Suns star Nash's idea for a reality TV show and runs away with it

The most entertaining part of the new reality show, "Shaq Vs."? The credits.

Tuesday's debut, which featured Shaquille O'Neal taking on Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in football, was a tad long and a bit contrived. It became decidedly more interesting, though, when the credits rolled and this name popped up as one of the executive producers:

Steve Nash.

There's an interesting back story here, one that explains in part some of the fractured relationships that defined the Suns' struggles last season.

O'Neal stole Nash's idea.

Shortly after O'Neal was traded to the Suns in February 2008, Nash mentioned to his new teammate a reality show he was pursuing. It would feature the Suns point guard taking on professional athletes in their own sport.

The topic didn't come up again until early in the 2008-09 season, when O'Neal boarded the Suns bus and told the team he would be starring in a new reality show in which he would be taking on, you got it, professional athletes in their own sport.

"You mean the idea you stole from me?" one Suns representative said he heard Nash say.

Nash eventually sought out an entertainment lawyer, according to sources, which is why he now has an executive-producer credit and the compensation that comes with it.

When reached Wednesday, Nash would not confirm the story.

"We collaborated on parts of the show," he said. "I support him 100 percent. I thought the first episode was a fantastic episode, and I can't wait for the next one."

That's something you would expect Nash to say. He often has played the role of locker-room peacemaker. He is known as a teammate who diffuses tough situations before they escalate.

In reality, a source close to Nash said, "Steve was pissed. He couldn't believe Shaq's lack of integrity."

The experience set the tone for some shaky chemistry on the court. Off it, Nash found himself in a difficult situation, trying to co-exist with a teammate who had blindsided him.

"He's moved on," the source said. "He really does want the show to succeed."

Calls made to O'Neal's representatives were not returned.

Being a teammate of O'Neal's is a bit like falling into the rabbit hole.

Several years ago, when O'Neal played for Miami, he referred to Nash's back-to-back MVP awards as "tainted." He later back-pedaled.

The 2008-09 season was trying from the start. The team struggled under new coach Terry Porter's deliberate system. In December, the Suns traded one of Nash's best friends, Raja Bell, with Boris Diaw, to Charlotte for Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley.

During the All-Star break, they fired Porter and replaced him with assistant Alvin Gentry, who steered the Suns back to their up-tempo ways. Several days after Gentry took over, All-Star power forward Amaré Stoudemire underwent season-ending surgery to repair a detached retina.

The Suns were out of the playoffs for the first time in five years.

Here's a hunch that when the Suns decided to trade O'Neal to Cleveland in late June, it helped Nash arrive at his decision to sign an extension with the Suns a month later.

Here's a hunch that chemistry on this team will be better in the 2009-10 season, too.

Nash enjoys playing for Gentry and is happy his friend Grant Hill is back. He'll have his pick-and-roll mate, Stoudemire, and an offense that should be more fluid.

Nash might be 35, but let's not forget he recently became the first NBA player to shoot more than 50 percent from the floor, 90 percent from the line and 40 percent from 3-point range for three consecutive seasons.

How long "Shaq Vs." lasts remains to be seen. It landed a 2.7 rating locally, which means approximately 48,670 Phoenix homes tuned in to the ABC show. NBC's "America's Got Talent" received a 7.6 rating locally, and CBS's "Big Brother" took a 3.9 rating.

In future shows, O'Neal is scheduled to compete against swimmer Michael Phelps, boxer Oscar De La Hoya and tennis star Serena Williams.

O'Neal might have other battles in his future as well. Author Todd Gallagher says the show is a rip-off of his book, "Andy Roddick Beat Me with a Frying Pan," according to TMZ, and is pursuing legal action.

"Shaq Vs." is a reality show, but O'Neal's life more resembles a drama.

The Suns are better off without it.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:52 am
by MaryvalesFinest
This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:53 am
by Nando88
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?


you know damn well that wasn't the case... kill the whole nash hating, we get it that you don't like him

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:12 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Nando88 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?


you know damn well that wasn't the case... kill the whole nash hating, we get it that you don't like him


The Suns were a top 5 team in the league at the time and Nash was thinking about reality TV? Come on man that's a valid point.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:28 am
by BurningHeart
No it's not.

If I'm going to school trying to earn my degree, and at one point, I think to myself how cool it would be to be a game show host, is that going to distract me from earning my degree?

No.

UGH. Shaq's a bitch.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:42 am
by rsavaj
MaryvalesFinest wrote:
Nando88 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?


you know damn well that wasn't the case... kill the whole nash hating, we get it that you don't like him


The Suns were a top 5 team in the league at the time and Nash was thinking about reality TV? Come on man that's a valid point.


No...it's not.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:02 pm
by Nash2Stoudemire
I think if Nash was focused on basketball 24-7 and didn't have any outside interests that would be the worst thing that could happen...

Pro athletes are people too.

Do you get home and night and think about work until 9am the next day?

If not, then your not doing your job... Apparently.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:02 pm
by Frank Lee
Shaq is a 300lb turd. What a dooosh. I'm glad the BIG MASSENGILL is gone.


and MaryV... you are a chip off the ol' Shaq. Perhaps you could take some of the time you spend thinking of these anti Nash and Amundson comments and better yourself in some way....may be work on your Common Sense...

You remind me of Kerr...

You'd look twice as smart if you'd STFU half the time.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:30 pm
by cmw17
I really hate Shaq. He is like a virus. I used to be a die-hard Lakers fan before he became one and turned that franchise into a circus, and i can't stand them ever since. I was crushed when I first heard he was traded to my current favorite team, the Suns. I knew before long he would be up to his old shananigans and make everyone hate him wherever he goes. He is a piece of sh it as a person, and this is just one example why. He's a backstabber and he's unapologetic about it. Steve Nash is the opposite, he is the smartest and wittiest and nicest guy in the league and he is 100% class unlike this a-hole. On a side note look at the size he was given and the career he has made of it by perfecting the fundamentals of the game and compare it with shaq who would have no business being in basketball if not for his gargantuan size. Shaq is just a piece of sh it and I could not be any happier that that virus is gone from the suns. The A-hole tour is now in Cleveland and by this time next year you will hear everyone in Cleveland hating him or you'll hear Shaq bad-mouthing yet another team that he was on. The guy is class-less and this act does not surprise me whatsoever. I'm just glad Steve is getting paid good money for this theft, while the big gorilla has to do the work. Good for Steve. F U, Shaq, hope your fat ass drowns in the pool against Phelps.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:10 pm
by Risensun
Wow shaq is an A$$clown. Nash should take him on in a free throw shooting contest for the rights to the show.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:20 pm
by jdstar
MaryvalesFinest wrote:The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?

yeah Starbury could teach Nash about discipline and focus



... :lol:

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:26 pm
by peteyjones13
It's annoying too cuz I'd MUCH rather see Nash go up against the star atheletes than Shaq. Shaq will just get pummelled, not to say that Steve would beat any of them but he'd make it a lot more interesting to watch. Stupid Shaq

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:36 pm
by jaypo
cmw17 wrote:I really hate Shaq. He is like a virus. I used to be a die-hard Lakers fan before he became one and turned that franchise into a circus, and i can't stand them ever since. I was crushed when I first heard he was traded to my current favorite team, the Suns. I knew before long he would be up to his old shananigans and make everyone hate him wherever he goes. He is a piece of sh it as a person, and this is just one example why. He's a backstabber and he's unapologetic about it. Steve Nash is the opposite, he is the smartest and wittiest and nicest guy in the league and he is 100% class unlike this a-hole. On a side note look at the size he was given and the career he has made of it by perfecting the fundamentals of the game and compare it with shaq who would have no business being in basketball if not for his gargantuan size. Shaq is just a piece of sh it and I could not be any happier that that virus is gone from the suns. The A-hole tour is now in Cleveland and by this time next year you will hear everyone in Cleveland hating him or you'll hear Shaq bad-mouthing yet another team that he was on. The guy is class-less and this act does not surprise me whatsoever. I'm just glad Steve is getting paid good money for this theft, while the big gorilla has to do the work. Good for Steve. F U, Shaq, hope your fat ass drowns in the pool against Phelps.



Yeah, I'll bet you were all broken up inside when Shaq was hoisting 3 Obrien trophies for your Lakers. And wasn't it Kobe that turned the Lakers into a media circus with his court battles?

As far as Nash goes, HE said himself that he collaberated with Shaq on parts of the show, meaning he worked WITH him. And if Nash was working on it for himself, evidently he didn't do anything with the idea because Shaq was able to get it done and produced before Stevie got anything done. I'll bet that Steve mentioned the idea to Shaq as something he would consider doing, but never pursued it. Shaq did, and the show is done. I've had a million ideas myself that someone else has profited off of because I never pursued it thru my own fault. I don't blame them for it. Maybe Stevie should have shat or got off the pot!!! And as far as the guy that wrote a book is concerned, give it up. Because you wrote something similar in nature, that doesn't mean anyone stole your idea. And if it does, then Stevie stole it because isn't this whole article about Shaq taking Stevie's idea? Stevie, work on developing some defense and quit crying because your friends were traded. That's why the chemistry was bad. Stevie was pouting (along with Amare) that they couldn't play SSOL ball and they were expected to play defense!!

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:42 pm
by Austin
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?


Wow, your idea of rhetoric is a bit stretched...

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:08 pm
by The Diesel
To blame Shaq for last year's horrible chemistry is completely ridiculous. Only one person is to blame for that and that person is Terry Porter.

The players did not like his practice methods or his offensive system.

Even Sarver said the head-coaching change did not go over well with the players.

Shaq was a great locker-room presence when he was with the Suns.

Everybody from Gentry, Kerr, D'Antoni, Amare, Bell, Dragic, and Diaw have talked about what a fun person he is to be around.

To blame him is ridiculous.

Blame Porter, not Shaq.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:27 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
In all seriousness I'm no Nash fan as most of you know but I admit Nash vs would have been more entertaining considering he's closer to the size of most athletes.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:32 pm
by cmw17
jaypo wrote:Yeah, I'll bet you were all broken up inside when Shaq was hoisting 3 Obrien trophies for your Lakers. And wasn't it Kobe that turned the Lakers into a media circus with his court battles?


I hated the Lakers by then, so you trying to be funny there isn't working. As soon as he came on, I started to really dislike them, and then when Kobe came in the picture, I simply started hating them and those 2 clowns were my most hated players in the league. I was heartbroken when I learned the Suns got him a couple years ago, i knew that it would destroy all chemistry on and off the court, eventually he would be kicked off the team and do something maliciously to the team off the court. Everything came true.

jaypo wrote:As far as Nash goes, HE said himself that he collaberated with Shaq on parts of the show, meaning he worked WITH him. And if Nash was working on it for himself, evidently he didn't do anything with the idea because Shaq was able to get it done and produced before Stevie got anything done. I'll bet that Steve mentioned the idea to Shaq as something he would consider doing, but never pursued it. Shaq did, and the show is done. I've had a million ideas myself that someone else has profited off of because I never pursued it thru my own fault. I don't blame them for it. Maybe Stevie should have shat or got off the pot!!! And as far as the guy that wrote a book is concerned, give it up. Because you wrote something similar in nature, that doesn't mean anyone stole your idea. And if it does, then Stevie stole it because isn't this whole article about Shaq taking Stevie's idea? Stevie, work on developing some defense and quit crying because your friends were traded. That's why the chemistry was bad. Stevie was pouting (along with Amare) that they couldn't play SSOL ball and they were expected to play defense!!


Nice try, but you're not gonna get anywhere with this B.S. no one here or anywhere will support Shaq for what he did. It is inexcusable and unforgivable. He is a low-life P.O.S. And everyone knows it. And this classless act should not surprise anyone because everyone knows he's perfectly cable of doing things like this. He is the biggest backstabber there ever was.

God am I glad he's gone from the team, I'd rather the Suns lose than have this virus on the team.

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:33 pm
by cmw17
MaryvalesFinest wrote:In all seriousness I'm no Nash fan as most of you know but I admit Nash vs would have been more entertaining considering he's closer to the size of most athletes.


:o I must be seeing things...

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:35 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
cmw17 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:In all seriousness I'm no Nash fan as most of you know but I admit Nash vs would have been more entertaining considering he's closer to the size of most athletes.


:o I must be seeing things...


I guess this can go in the books as the most positive thing I said about Nash than :lol:

Re: Shaq stole Nash's TV show idea! killing last years chemistry

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:39 pm
by the_warden
MaryvalesFinest wrote:
Nando88 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This is hilarious :lol:

The Suns were still a championship team back than and Nash was focused on a reality TV show over trying to work on his game and get better defensively?


you know damn well that wasn't the case... kill the whole nash hating, we get it that you don't like him


The Suns were a top 5 team in the league at the time and Nash was thinking about reality TV? Come on man that's a valid point.


We get it, you're from Maryvale and hate Nash.