OT:Van Jones

MaryvalesFinest · Post #1 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:38 am

Well since the season doesn't start for two months I thought this would be an interesting topic

I had another topic before this one but since I couldn't delete this thread I just decided to post another topic.

A few days ago Van Jones resigned from Obama's cabinet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32712017/ns ... ite_house/

If you don't know who Van Jones he was Obama's green jobs Czar, a civil rights leader and was voted one of the most creative minds of 2008 in a poll. So basically he was one of the few good guys in the cabinet and now he stepped down.

Alot of controversy is going around but the reason I think he resigned is because the Republicans and a talk show host by the name of Glenn Beck went on a witchunt for him to quit because of some comments he made.

Now I support him but alot of people will probably disagree and this thread is to tell us if you agree or disagree about Van Jones stepping down and what you think about him overall.

DirtyDez · Post #2 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:07 am

Those hippies that protest on street corners are annoying as hell, which is why i try to run them over with my truck. So yes Maryvale you might be right

MaryvalesFinest · Post #3 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:13 am

DirtyDez wrote:Those hippies that protest on street corners are annoying as hell, which is why i try to run them over with my truck. So yes Maryvale you might be right

What hippies are you talking about? :lol:

DirtyDez · Post #4 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:18 am

Those guys that go on hunger strikes on 16th st right outside Jon Kyle's office. They get all crazy and try to dodge traffic, most of the people driving just aim for them

MaryvalesFinest · Post #5 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:32 am

DirtyDez wrote:Those guys that go on hunger strikes on 16th st right outside Jon Kyle's office. They get all crazy and try to dodge traffic, most of the people driving just aim for them

Oh

So anyway you never said your stance on what you think is worse. Like what one do you think is worse than the other and why?

DirtyDez · Post #6 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:36 am

They're both the worst because extremists are obsessed w/ their own beliefs and can't take advice, it's a lose-lose situation bro

MaryvalesFinest · Post #7 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:40 am

I agree that both have crazies on spectrum but you don't think one is worse than the other?

For instance I agree with alot of things the far left protests on but I don't agree with the way they protest and act crazy while I disagree with the issues the right protests on and the way they act. Does that make sense? :lol:

I might have worded my post wrong I'll fix it

MaryvalesFinest · Post #8 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:53 am

What I wrote before was kind of confusing so I just changed to topic of this thread completely

WTFsunsFTW · Post #9 » by **WTFsunsFTW** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 5:33 pm

MaryvalesFinest wrote:What I wrote before was kind of confusing so I just changed to topic of this thread completely

That's what happens when you focus on being an attention whore looking for shock value instead of an informed citizen looking for more knowledge.

eastsidecrossover · Post #10 » by **eastsidecrossover** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:04 pm

a civil rights leader and was voted one of the most creative minds of 2008 in a poll. So basically he was one of the few good guys in the cabinet and now he stepped down.

you are a funny guy Mary. Lets look at this for a second. Was it a witch hunt, yes if you support every move Obama makes with blind faith. Was this the revelation of truth about extremist in Obamas admin....then yes it was. If it was not true, why would he resign? If this was all not caught on tape, why would he resign? why would the Obama admin and the FBI look at his history in what he has said? They guy has said he hates this country, hates whites, is a communist etc.

Now lest get to the quote above. He is a disgrace to a civil rigth leader and in that case, MLK. He was a racist, plain and simple. He is a hate monger, not a civil right activist. He seeks to propell some over others and that is not equality.

Second of all, that poll must have been taken in Berkeley, not in the whole US. this guy is not creative, this guy is a wacko extremist. He was not a good guy at all.

The truth is, you have to look at the facts, and I cant stand extremist, but what Beck did, was bring out the truth about what kind of people are advising our president. This reflects on Obamas decision making and I have lost all HOPE and FAITH in this so called "transformation" and change.

For once mary, take your own advice in cracking back at crazy conservatives and look at where you are getting your info from liberal wacko socialist and seek out the truth. If you look, Comrade Jones should never have received this job. The info Beck uncovered was actually true. Is that a witch hunt in telling the truth and giving the “PEOPLE” the correct info that our fearless leader and his lame duck staff could not get? The truth will set you free my man.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #11 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:19 pm

eastsidecrossover wrote:
a civil rights leader and was voted one of the most creative minds of 2008 in a poll. So basically he was one of the few good guys in the cabinet and now he stepped down.

you are a funny guy Mary. Lets look at this for a second. Was it a witch hunt, yes if you support every move Obama makes with blind faith. Was this the revelation of truth about extremist in Obamas admin....then yes it was. If it was not true, why would he resign? If this was all not caught on tape, why would he resign? why would the Obama admin and the FBI look at his history in what he has said? They guy has said he hates this country, hates whites, is a communist etc.

Now lest get to the quote above. He is a disgrace to a civil rigth leader and in that case, MLK. He was a racist, plain and simple. He is a hate monger, not a civil right activist. He seeks to propell some over others and that is not equality.

Second of all, that poll must have been taken in Berkeley, not in the whole US. this guy is not creative, this guy is a wacko extremist. He was not a good guy at all.

The truth is, you have to look at the facts, and I cant stand extremist, but what Beck did, was bring out the truth about what kind of people are advising our president. This reflects on Obamas decision making and I have lost all HOPE and FAITH in this so called "transformation" and change.

For once mary, take your own advice in cracking back at crazy conservatives and look at where you are getting your info from liberal wacko socialist and seek out the truth. If you look, Comrade Jones should never have received this job. The info Beck uncovered was actually true. Is that a witch hunt in telling the truth and giving the “PEOPLE” the correct info that our fearless leader and his lame duck staff could not get? The truth will set you free my man.

I didn't even vote for Obama and disagree with him completely on foreign policy and alot of other issues but some of the people he had in his cabinet were a bright spot. I wasn't saying I agreed with everything Van Jones said by the way but he's overall a good guy despite a few comments he made.

Also about Glenn Beck, he's trying to find every little thing wrong about Obama that's not important with guys like Van Jones, comments Obama made in the past, etc. If Beck wants to criticize Obama why doesn't he criticize his foreign policy? Or the large number of Bush appointees he still has in his cabinet? He only tells people what goes with his ideology.

Togo · Post #12 » by **Togo** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:20 pm

The only thing I think is messed up is that he was ever put into a czar position in the first place. It certainly has made me look further into the rest of his cabinet.....which has been equally as frightening....

MaryvalesFinest · Post #13 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:24 pm

Togo wrote:The only thing I think is messed up is that he was ever put into a czar position in the first place. It certainly has made me look further into the rest of his cabinet.....which has been equally as frightening....

I agree he still has alot of Bush appointees and puppets like Emaneul, that's why a guy like Van Jones was a breath of fresh air

mckane · Post #14 » by **mckane** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:31 pm

Witch Hunt? Well, Van Jones a Witch, that part is certain. But it wasn't much of a "Hunt" though. A few google searches turned up VIDEO and PETITIONS the guys himself signed. He implicated himself. LOL.

I cracked up when I read that he said it was a "Smear Campaign" and that people used "Distortions". Since when does video of yourself pass as "distortions"? He's a liar. He's delusional. He's a dangerous radical communist and he has no place at or near the White House of the US.

Pres Obama has terrible judgement... as evidenced by this decision and many others. He's just experienced the fastest drop in approval rating in the history of the United States. His admin is corrupt to the core and it's a millstone around his neck,m dragging him down. More to come...

Mary - You want me to send you the youtube links of Van Jones himself? Stop reading ridiculous propaganda and look at what the guys says and does.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #15 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:44 pm

mckane wrote:Witch Hunt? Well, Van Jones a Witch, that part is certain. But it wasn't much of a "Hunt" though. A few google searches turned up VIDEO and PETITIONS the guys himself signed. He implicated himself. LOL.

I cracked up when I read that he said it was a "Smear Campaign" and that people used "Distortions". Since when does video of yourself pass as "distortions"? He's a liar. He's delusional. He's a dangerous radical communist and he has no place at or near the White House of the US.

Pres Obama has terrible judgement... as evidenced by this decision and many others. He's just experienced the fastest drop in approval rating in the history of the United States. His admin is corrupt to the core and it's a millstone around his neck,m dragging him down. More to come...

Mary - You want me to send you the youtube links of Van Jones himself? Stop reading ridiculous propaganda and look at what the guys says and does.

I agree he made some outrageous comments but that still doesn't change his work as what he has done as a civil rights leader. As for Obama's decisions I agree they haven't been the best but 99% of politicians don't make the best decisions. As for his admin being corupt, most of it is but compared to the last admin we had I would say it's a little bit better at the least.

BurningHeart · Post #16 » by **BurningHeart** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:49 pm

There's nothing to suggest that Van Jones is ACTUALLY a truther. These people are known to lie, so I wouldn't find it shocking to see them do the same. Nothing backs up that signature.

HOWEVER, the guy is a red piece of **** anyway, and should NOT have been an appointment in any fashion.

I'm glad he's gone.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #17 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 6:50 am

BurningHeart wrote:There's nothing to suggest that Van Jones is ACTUALLY a truther. These people are known to lie, so I wouldn't find it shocking to see them do the same. Nothing backs up that signature.

HOWEVER, the guy is a red piece of **** anyway, and should NOT have been an appointment in any fashion.

I'm glad he's gone.

I mean even if he was a truther would it make a difference? It's good to have someone thinking outside of the box.

Spartan13 · Post #18 » by **Spartan13** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:06 am

What did he say exactly, and how does it relate to his job?

BurningHeart · Post #19 » by **BurningHeart** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:21 am

MaryvalesFinest wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:There's nothing to suggest that Van Jones is ACTUALLY a truther. These people are known to lie, so I wouldn't find it shocking to see them do the same. Nothing backs up that signature.

HOWEVER, the guy is a red piece of **** anyway, and should NOT have been an appointment in any fashion.

I'm glad he's gone.

I mean even if he was a truther would it make a difference? It's good to have someone thinking outside of the box.

Are you **** serious? You think its good for someone to be within an EAR of the President of the United States thinking that the last administration set up the most horrific event ever perpetrated on our nation's soil?!?!?!?!?!

You're serious here?

BurningHeart · Post #20 » by **BurningHeart** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:23 am

Spartan13 wrote:What did he say exactly, and how does it relate to his job?

Among many other things, he's a self-admitted Communist/Marxist, he made a blanket statement calling all Republicans "****", he's associated with Noetic Sciences which is complete and utter BS...

http://blog.darwincentral.org/2009/07/1 ... ence-czar/

That said, as bad as this guy is.....another high-level adviser to Obama, JEFF Jones, is EVEN WORSE.