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Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:42 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Both these guys had very similar situations. The Cardinals like the Suns considered an aging Kurt Warner to be the backbone of the team, they paid him a huge amount of cash expecting him to put up similar results.
Now I know it's only one game but after watching it I came to the conclusion Warner is done. He's old, hurt, he doesn't seem interested and didn't have that energy he had last year. Now of course it's not just his fault, afterall the Cardinals had 12 penalties but just by watching him play you could tell that since he got his last payday he's just playing like he's not interested. Than you have a guy with alot of potential like Leinart sitting on the bench, wasn't given much of a chance and just because they paid Warner the money he will probably be on the bench another two years even though he's ready to play.
After watching the Cardinals lose today this got me thinking it's quite a similar situation to the Suns. They paid Nash a huge amount of money because they considered him the backbone of their team and chances are Dragic wont get much of a chance since the Suns are going to basically be forced playing Nash to save face even if he declines.
Anyone else think this situation is similar and could possibly happen to the Suns this year?
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:28 am
by Stix
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Both these guys had very similar situations. The Cardinals like the Suns considered an aging Kurt Warner to be the backbone of the team, they paid him a huge amount of cash expecting him to put up similar results.
Now I know it's only one game but after watching it I came to the conclusion Warner is done. He's old, hurt, he doesn't seem interested and didn't have that energy he had last year. Now of course it's not just his fault, afterall the Cardinals had 12 penalties but just by watching him play you could tell that since he got his last payday he's just playing like he's not interested. Than you have a guy with alot of potential like Leinart sitting on the bench, wasn't given much of a chance and just because they paid Warner the money he will probably be on the bench another two years even though he's ready to play.
After watching the Cardinals lose today this got me thinking it's quite a similar situation to the Suns. They paid Nash a huge amount of money because they considered him the backbone of their team and chances are Dragic wont get much of a chance since the Suns are going to basically be forced playing Nash to save face even if he declines.
Anyone else think this situation is similar and could possibly happen to the Suns this year?
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:05 am
by TASTIC
hmmm...weren't the Cards in the Superbowl last year?
I vaguely recall watching them at Hooters in AZ
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:14 pm
by nevetsov
After a full day of drinking (what was that god awful blue concoction we were drinking?) i'm not surprised it's only a "vague" recollection
Might have to dig up the youtube vid of us to refresh the memory..
PS Thx guys for one of the most enjoyable days of my life.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:44 pm
by hunterxaz
Nope. Nash is still an elite PG. This year, his stats will be even better than last season.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:55 pm
by BurningHeart
....wow
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:09 pm
by Sun Scorched
This thread is indicative of your warpath Mary... no sense in denying it.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:32 pm
by Austin
Get out the ban stick! haha
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:41 pm
by rsavaj
It appears that no, nobody else thinks that.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:25 pm
by Sun Scorched
rsavaj wrote:It appears that no, nobody else thinks that.
Haha, +1.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:31 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
Yeah hopefully that doesn't happen but if anyone watched yesterdays game you could see Warner isn't the same player both physically and emotionally he was last season.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:55 pm
by GoSunsGo
I was at the cards game yesterday. I believe an unfair conclusion has been drawn due to one bad game warner is "done". He played like crap and they only lost 20-16. It wasn't just warner, it was our whole offense as a whole.
Nash....no. Expect slight increases to stats this year. The ball's back in his hands where he's comfortable and Gentry gives him the reigns.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:57 pm
by JohnVancouver
Not only do I expect Nash to be old and done and uninterested this year, i expect him to rape and murder children, and eat them. And only Mary will be unsurprised
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:11 pm
by Shuttlesworth
JohnVancouver wrote:Not only do I expect Nash to be old and done and uninterested this year, i expect him to rape and murder children, and eat them. And only Mary will be unsurprised
LMFAO I just loled for seriously 5 minutes.
Sigged.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:55 pm
by psyclone1982
Yeah, seriously Mary, no-one cares what you have to say about Nash anymore.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:37 pm
by MaryvalesFinest
psyclone1982 wrote:Yeah, seriously Mary, no-one cares what you have to say about Nash anymore.
Looks like you did since you opened the thread
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:40 am
by DirtyDez
Kurt has had a better career than Nash, and for the idiots around me at the game yesterday who were chanting 'Put in Leinart' just stop already... thx
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:44 am
by Orange_Blooded
One bad game for warner and he's done? The Rams and Giants both thought he was done too before he lead us to the super bowl last year. So I wouldnt bury him just yet.
And Yeah John, You're Right, I'm surprised Nash hasn't already started Eating Kids. Kurt Warner as well.... he has enough at home to feed himself for months.
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:50 am
by DrFunk
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Yeah hopefully that doesn't happen but if anyone watched yesterdays game you could see Warner isn't the same player both physically and emotionally he was last season.
See the keyword in that whole sentence was "hopefully". If your going to be a hater at least be upfront about it. Come on now, if Nash broke both his legs and back and hands caught cancer and had to pee with a bottle you'd be so giddy you might actually give someone a hug Mary.
I just can't decide the scenario that made you hate Nash so much:
1. Not hugged enough as a kid.
2. You waved at Steve and he snubbed you at a game.
3. Your gf/wife called out Steve's name while making out.
4. You are Stephon Marbury trying to regain some internet fans.
5 All of the above
Sigh...
Re: Anyone else think Steve Nash is going to pull a Kurt Warner?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:19 am
by jazzy_jeff
aa86 wrote:I was at the cards game yesterday. I believe an unfair conclusion has been drawn due to one bad game warner is "done".
It's not only an unfair conclusion, it's outright absurdity. The guy was a hero, and now in 1 game he;s done.
You probably overrated him last year, and now you're more than underrating him
Ah, the fickle nature of the sport fan...