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Kerr Pleasantly Surprised 

Post#1 » by Kerrsed » Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:49 pm

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Hoopsworld wrote:Kerr Pleasantly Surprised
By: Bill Ingram

The most surprising team of the young season has to be the Phoenix Suns. Left for dead by almost every NBA pundit, the Suns have jumped out of the gate with a 4-1 record. Sure, the HEAT are the only playoff team they've beaten and the Magic blew them out last night, but the fact that the Suns won their first four games is surprising, nonetheless.

"I didn't know what our record would be, but I knew we'd compete and I knew we had guys who fit together and liked playing together," suns GM Steve Kerr tells HOOPSWORLD. "That's usually worth something. I know in my experience that usually translates well, but I didn't know what to expect, frankly. I'm pleasantly surprised."

Part of the Suns' early success can be attributed to continuity. Alvin Gentry is much more familiar with and to his personnel now, and the core group that was in place is still basically in place. If you look at which teams are doing well early, it's the teams that made few changes to their core group.

"We developed some continuity last year under Alvin and we had some guys who really came on under him, with Goran (Dragic) and Robin Lopez, Lou Amundson, Jarrod Dudley, they developed a lot of confidence last year," says Kerr. "We knew our vets could play. Steve, Grant, Amar'e . . .a lot of people left us for dead, but we knew we had a lot of talent, we knew we had a coach who everybody believed in, and we knew we had a lot to be positive about. To be honest, the low expectations are kind of nice after the last five years when it was the exact opposite. It's been nice to be below the radar and to come out and start well."

The Suns' bench players may have played well early, but Kerr is quick to caution that they still have a lot of room to improve.

"I think our bench has been great and it's been a key to our start, but that doesn't mean they're there yet. Goran Dragic has played pretty well to start the year and he's going to be a big role this season. We've got to be able to count on him for 15 good minutes a night in order to give Steve a rest. Steve's averaging 37 minutes a game, which is a concern. So Goran needs to continue to improve, and I think we need the entire bench to continue to grow and give us consistent minutes. I think the biggest area of improvement, though, is going to come from Amar'e because he's going at about 60% right now and he has the ability to make a breakthrough for us. I think he's headed towards it with the way he's working and as focused as he is. If those two things come together, if Amar'e continues to progress and our young guys really establish themselves off the bench, I think we'll be really tough to beat."

A key issue is limiting Steve Nash's minutes. Goran Dragic wasn't a factor last season, but the Suns feel his development, in particular, will help keep their star point guard fresh in the event of a postseason run.

"Ideally, the last three years he's been at 33, 34 minutes per game and we probably need to get it down to that," says Kerr. "On the one hand, you start asking yourself if those extra three or four minutes are really that important, but on the other hand, it's kind of wishful thinking. You try to think it's not that big of a deal. It may be that he needs to play fewer games. Maybe he needs to play 75 games instead of 82. Now, I'm not going to hold him out, but usually that kind of happens normally. You sprain an ankle, you miss a couple of games, there's kind of a natural order of things. We just have to take it game by game, but that's why I mentioned Dragic's development and why that's so important to us. It fits right in with what Nash is doing."

In the past, Kerr has given definite answers to questions that don't really have easy answers. He didn't want to lose Raja Bell and Boris Diaw. He liked what Shaquille O'Neal brought to the table. He repeatedly said they were looking at deals for those players, who are all now playing elsewhere. When it comes to Amar'e Stoudemire, Kerr takes a much more cautious approach.

"I would love for Amar'e to be a long-term part of this team. He's talented, we have a great relationship, he has a great relationship with Alvin. I've seen him grow and mature this year. He's taken on more of a leadership role and become an integral part of our team, so he's been great. With that said, you always have to wait and see, and there are all kinds of issues beyond whether we like Amar'e or not. We like him, but there are budget issues, concerns about what you cap's going to look like, what your talent base looks like, who's developing on your bench and what position they play . . .it's a chess game. It's a chess board and you have to make sure all the pieces are in the right place. We'll evaluate everything as we go forward, but he's done a great job."


Lots of good stuff about Dragic! :D

I dont like seeing him talk about Amare and "our budget". Something tells me Amare is gone before next year. :(
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Re: Kerr Pleasantly Surprised 

Post#2 » by BVPN » Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:54 pm

I am 90% of the way to forgiving Kerr all his mistakes b/c he got us Dragic.
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Post#3 » by MaryvalesFinest » Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:55 pm

Yeah it looks like Amare is gone, it's a shame but with all the injuries I can understand even though I'd still give him the max even with the injuries he's had but I can see why management is cautious. If they decide to let him go hopefully they can trade him midseason or in the summer do a sign and trade for some draft picks instead of just letting him walk for nothing.
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Post#4 » by thamadkant » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:11 pm

Stoudemire + Dudley to Bulls for Joakim Noah + Loul Deng!
Or Tyrus Thomas + Loul Deng!

Suns 2011 line-up

C: Frye/Lopez
PF: Noah/Clark
SF: Deng/Hill/Clark
SG: Richardson/Barbosa
PG: Nash/Dragic

Or

C: Lopez/Frye
PF: Thomas/Clark
SF: Deng/Hill/Clark
SG: Richardson/Barbosa
PG: Nash/Dragic


Frye has shown he can be a reliable scorer with his outside shooting. And when/by deadline Frye is averaging close to 15-16 points and 5-6 rebounds. I dont see why Kerr/Sarver will balk of losing Stoudemire and getting younger, cheaper and defensive contributors who will score with the run and gun system!!
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Post#5 » by Phx4Life08 » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:17 pm

If we let Amare go, I have a feeling we will regret it.
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Post#6 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:27 pm

BVPN wrote:I am 90% of the way to forgiving Kerr all his mistakes b/c he got us Dragic.


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Post#7 » by thamadkant » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:35 pm

Phx4Life08 wrote:If we let Amare go, I have a feeling we will regret it.



Suns will only regret it if Stoudemire becomes a 25 point 11 rebound 2.5 block monster inside offensively/defensively on another team and plays like that for the next 5+ seasons.
Because thats worth 20 million a year. That or he simply averages about 30ppg and 8 rebounds at 60% field goal...

But I think its unlikely considering all factors.
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Post#8 » by tigerblood » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:52 pm

I think Amare is gone. Sucks. Sarver loves Rudy Gay so I could see a 3 way with Miami since Mem wanted Beasley last year.
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Post#9 » by DirtyDez » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:53 pm

thamadkant -- Speaking of Loul Deng, i think the biggest mistake this franchise ever made was selling those draft picks of Deng, Rudy and Rondo. Not only did we discard those players that could've helped us win a title but we also used the money from those picks to sign Marcus Banks. Triple Whammy! Plus all of that was done before Kerr got here so he was screwed before he took the job. Given the owner and situation Kerr has done a fine job minus the TP hire.
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Post#10 » by Miklo » Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:10 am

lol um I'm pretty sure our GM should
a)know what the team is capable of independent from and BEFORE their ever-important 5-game record
b)not be "pleasantly surprised" that his team is "good" enough to beat 4 crappy teams and get dominated by one good one
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Post#11 » by thamadkant » Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:23 am

Suns tried to get Rudy Gay as someone mentioned, but if they can't get him.
Loul Deng is next in line, he seems to have recovered from injury with a 24/20 performance the other night.

Why will the Bulls let Deng go?
Because they need an inside scorer to pair with Rose and they'd rather pay big money for that player. Stoudemire comes in the picture.

Suns need to get their swingman, Grant Hill is fantastic but he will retire soon and cannot shoulder 35+ minutes a night, shown by his last game where he was much much less effective than his first 4 games.

Deng + either T.Thomas or Noah would be great!
Bulls will not let T.Thomas AND Noah go, but one of them they can afford. Brad Miller is also handy for them at the moment so I see him getting a new contract from them obviously at about half as much as he is getting now.
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Post#12 » by Kerrsed » Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:44 am

Amare to CHI seems logical. They have had a hard on for him for years. I dont think they would give up Noah as he seems like the perfect kind of C to put next to Amare. He rebounds/Blocks and doesnt need touches as most of his points come off offensive rebounds.

I would take Deng+Thomas+Johnson or Gibson for Amare. Maybe CHI throws in a draft pick (1st round, not non of this protected CLE 2nd round crap) too.
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Post#13 » by Azsports77 » Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:46 am

If they Let Amare go by trading him they will have made the same mistake twice and it will take along time for the Suns to get back to where they are. Players like Amare are not a dime a dozen and Sarver knows that if they lose him Usairways will be a waste land and pretty much half full if that he should really think about that. We need a new owner because the one we currently have is a moron. They will live to regret trading Amare I guarantee it. What they should be trying to find out is if their is a way Amare will take less top help the team get better everyone is so sure he will be greedy and ask for the max but I don't buy that .
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Post#14 » by chriscringle95 » Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:57 am

"I would love for Amar'e to be a long-term part of this team. He's talented, we have a great relationship, he has a great relationship with Alvin. I've seen him grow and mature this year. He's taken on more of a leadership role and become an integral part of our team, so he's been great. With that said, you always have to wait and see, and there are all kinds of issues beyond whether we like Amar'e or not. We like him, but there are budget issues, concerns about what you cap's going to look like, what your talent base looks like, who's developing on your bench and what position they play . . .it's a chess game. It's a chess board and you have to make sure all the pieces are in the right place. We'll evaluate everything as we go forward, but he's done a great job."

If it doesn't matter if you like him or the way he is progressing /playing or not then what is the point of keeping him around.

You can get ready to start calling this team the Phoenix SUMS... Cheap ass Sarver is a joke of an owner. If your too broke to commit to winning then sell the team and stop wasting the fans time and money. And take Kerr with you...
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Post#15 » by TASTIC » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:12 am

If Amare wants to go to CHI he'll most likely screw the Suns over by just waiting it out this year and signing with them next season - when BMiller expires and I think Salmons has a player option?

CHI with Amare would be DANGEROUS

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Post#16 » by rsavaj » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:14 am

He would be, wouldn't he? I mean, it's not like we had back to back WCF appearances before he came on board. Then we lost in the 2nd round, then the first round, and then lottery.

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Post#17 » by rsavaj » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:15 am

DirtyDez wrote:thamadkant -- Speaking of Loul Deng, i think the biggest mistake this franchise ever made was selling those draft picks of Deng, Rudy and Rondo. Not only did we discard those players that could've helped us win a title but we also used the money from those picks to sign Marcus Banks. Triple Whammy! Plus all of that was done before Kerr got here so he was screwed before he took the job. Given the owner and situation Kerr has done a fine job minus the TP hire.


We traded the Rondo pick for the Rudy pick I think.
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Post#18 » by TXSun » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:22 am

thamadkant wrote:Stoudemire + Dudley to Bulls for Joakim Noah + Loul Deng!
Or Tyrus Thomas + Loul Deng!

Suns 2011 line-up

C: Frye/Lopez
PF: Noah/Clark
SF: Deng/Hill/Clark
SG: Richardson/Barbosa
PG: Nash/Dragic

Or

C: Lopez/Frye
PF: Thomas/Clark
SF: Deng/Hill/Clark
SG: Richardson/Barbosa
PG: Nash/Dragic


Frye has shown he can be a reliable scorer with his outside shooting. And when/by deadline Frye is averaging close to 15-16 points and 5-6 rebounds. I dont see why Kerr/Sarver will balk of losing Stoudemire and getting younger, cheaper and defensive contributors who will score with the run and gun system!!
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this is not a trade thread, please don't start one after we are all "pleasantly surprised". lets not fix something that isn't broken "yet".
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Post#19 » by MaryvalesFinest » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:24 am

If Amare walks anyone think Nash and Hill would want to be traded to contenders or would they want to spend their final years here?
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Post#20 » by Kerrsed » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:26 am

MaryvalesFinest wrote:If Amare walks anyone think Nash and Hill would want to be traded to contenders or would they want to spend their final years here?


I see Hill going to Orlando and Nash going somewhere else too.
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