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Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:22 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Out of the 29 other teams can someone even name one team the Suns have a better future than?
I'd like like you to name the team or teams that you think the Suns have an overall better future than. List your reasons why and be honest. I'd be interested to here different Suns fans takes on this because right now I can't even think of one team.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:26 am
by Jimmy76
Raptors are the first that come to mind
Griz and Clippers will continue to suck thanks to epically bad management
its hard to predict what will happen in one year let alone three or four
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:26 am
by Gorilla Warfare
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Out of the 29 other teams can someone even name one team the Suns have a better future than?
I'd like like you to name the team or teams that you think the Suns have an overall better future than. List your reasons why and be honest. I'd be interested to here different Suns fans takes on this because right now I can't even think of one team.
Who gave you a keyboard?
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:29 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Jimmy76 wrote:Raptors are the first that come to mind
Griz and Clippers will continue to suck thanks to epically bad management
its hard to predict what will happen in one year let alone three or four
I would have to disagree, even if Bosh leaves (chances are they get something for him in a sign and trade anyway), they still have alot of solid players like Hedo, Bargs, Calderon and alot of young guys with potential like Derozan, Johnson, Bellenili, etc..
Even if the Grizz let Gay walk they would still have Gasol, Mayo and even Conley and Thabeet have some value along with their other guys.
The Clippers have Griffin, Jordan, Gordan and a bunch of other solid players.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:30 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Get Nashty wrote:MaryvalesFinest wrote:Out of the 29 other teams can someone even name one team the Suns have a better future than?
I'd like like you to name the team or teams that you think the Suns have an overall better future than. List your reasons why and be honest. I'd be interested to here different Suns fans takes on this because right now I can't even think of one team.
Who gave you a keyboard?
Looks like you can't answer the question

Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:32 am
by Gorilla Warfare
Neither can you, I'm just curious, and I'm sure every one else on this board wants to ask you the same question but won't.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:33 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Get Nashty wrote:Neither can you, I'm just curious, and I'm sure every one else on this board wants to ask you the same question but won't.
I did answer, all those teams that were named above, even if they lose a key piece they still have solid players and their young guys have already proven they can play in the league.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:34 am
by Jimmy76
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Jimmy76 wrote:Raptors are the first that come to mind
Griz and Clippers will continue to suck thanks to epically bad management
its hard to predict what will happen in one year let alone three or four
I would have to disagree, even if Bosh leaves (chances are they get something for him in a sign and trade anyway), they still have alot of solid players like Hedo, Bargs, Calderon and alot of young guys with potential like Derozan, Johnson, Bellenili, etc..
Even if the Grizz let Gay walk they would still have Gasol, Mayo and even Conley and Thabeet have some value along with their other guys.
The Clippers have Griffin, Jordan, Gordan and a bunch of other solid players.
If all these players are so amazing why do their teams suck so bad
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:38 am
by Gorilla Warfare
That doesn't answer my question. My question was who gave you a keyboard? Every thing you type is absolutely ridiculous. A person who has nothing positive to say about the Suns on the Suns board should NOT be on the Suns board.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:38 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Jimmy76 wrote:MaryvalesFinest wrote:Jimmy76 wrote:Raptors are the first that come to mind
Griz and Clippers will continue to suck thanks to epically bad management
its hard to predict what will happen in one year let alone three or four
I would have to disagree, even if Bosh leaves (chances are they get something for him in a sign and trade anyway), they still have alot of solid players like Hedo, Bargs, Calderon and alot of young guys with potential like Derozan, Johnson, Bellenili, etc..
Even if the Grizz let Gay walk they would still have Gasol, Mayo and even Conley and Thabeet have some value along with their other guys.
The Clippers have Griffin, Jordan, Gordan and a bunch of other solid players.
If all these players are so amazing why do their teams suck so bad
I wasn't talking about records now but teams building blocks for the future.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:42 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Get Nashty wrote:That doesn't answer my question. My question was who gave you a keyboard? Every thing you type is absolutely ridiculous. A person who has nothing positive to say about the Suns on the Suns board should NOT be on the Suns board.
How's it ridiculous? Compare guys like Dragic, Lopez, Amundson, etc to other teams building blocks of the future. So I shouldn't speak the truth because it wont be positive? Come on man...
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:43 am
by Jimmy76
MaryvalesFinest wrote:
I wasn't talking about records now but teams building blocks for the future.
None of those players are half of what you think they are is what im saying
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:48 am
by MaryvalesFinest
Jimmy76 wrote:MaryvalesFinest wrote:
I wasn't talking about records now but teams building blocks for the future.
None of those players are half of what you think they are is what im saying
So how do you think the Suns building blocks of the future are better than those three teams you named?
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 8:09 am
by Jimmy76
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Jimmy76 wrote:MaryvalesFinest wrote:
I wasn't talking about records now but teams building blocks for the future.
None of those players are half of what you think they are is what im saying
So how do you think the Suns building blocks of the future are better than those three teams you named?
This whole thing changes with one good draft pick or one good free agent signing. Like I said you cant predict where a team will be in three or four years.
We currently have Dragic who is fast improving and likely to be starting quality by the time Nash's current contract is up. Dudley is a hard working winning player who can do a little of everything. Rolo has been an absolute beast in his limited minutes so far (16/12/3 per 36) and though i dont expect him to keep up those numbers he's proven hes gonna be a rotation big once he gets a little more experience he could turn into a Noah type player. Clark has an absolutely perfect skillset and great athleticism which lends itself to calling him a high upside player.
I know im being more than optimistic but Id like to contrast with your mindless pessimism.
On top of this we arent weighed down by any bad contracts like many of those teams are.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 12:29 pm
by TASTIC
Get Nashty wrote:That doesn't answer my question. My question was who gave you a keyboard? Every thing you type is absolutely ridiculous. A person who has nothing positive to say about the Suns on the Suns board should NOT be on the Suns board.
Nashty, I warned everyone multiple times to not pick on/ridicule a loyal Suns poster
He has differing points of view, get over it and if you can't contribute to the discussion/don't want to read his opinions, click ignore
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:32 pm
by Never Fear 33 Is Here
TASTIC wrote:Get Nashty wrote:That doesn't answer my question. My question was who gave you a keyboard? Every thing you type is absolutely ridiculous. A person who has nothing positive to say about the Suns on the Suns board should NOT be on the Suns board.
Nashty, I warned everyone multiple times to not pick on/ridicule a loyal Suns poster
He has differing points of view, get over it and if you can't contribute to the discussion/don't want to read his opinions, click ignore
There is no ignore button anymore.

Muhuhahaha..............stirring, stirring, stirring.

It is actually a little harder these days, you actually have to go into your User Control Panel and nominate someone as a Foe, thus rendering them to ignore status.

Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:07 pm
by pidi
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Out of the 29 other teams can someone even name one team the Suns have a better future than?
I'd like like you to name the team or teams that you think the Suns have an overall better future than. List your reasons why and be honest. I'd be interested to here different Suns fans takes on this because right now I can't even think of one team.
the suns don´t have that bad future, homz.
teams like washington, new jersey, clippers are teams that will never win. they have no franchise to eeven get close to that what the suns are representing. what makes you think that we have no future? guys like dragic, lopez, clark are young guns. and even if we have to trade ama´re this season we´ll get something back. if nash retires we´ll have the chance to sign another star point guard. i don´t see the sky falling on the suns future.
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:58 pm
by tossmyprotoss
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Get Nashty wrote:Neither can you, I'm just curious, and I'm sure every one else on this board wants to ask you the same question but won't.
I did answer, all those teams that were named above, even if they lose a key piece they still have solid players and their young guys have already proven they can play in the league.
Are you saying we dont have solid players? Who gave you a keyboard?

Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:05 pm
by TASTIC
Players will come to Phoenix for the weather, proximity to LA, Vegas etc
The city itself will attract players, but on talent/draft picks etc alone, it's a DISASTER.
I have Bill Simmons' new book and he has 2 pages on the destruction of the Suns future. SAD to read...
We basically mortgaged the future for a 2-3 yr window that we could never pry open cos the Spurs locked it
Re: Can anyone answer this question honestly?
Posted: Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:28 pm
by justinb80
We're not in that bad of shape. We have no really long, expensive contracts (ala Elton Brand, Gilbert Arenas, etc.). Yes, we're out of our draft pick this year, but hopefully we end up a higher seed, so it wouldn't have mattered much anyway. While guys like Dragic, Amundson, and Dudley are not spectacular, they are guys that championship teams need.
Clark and Lopez COULD end up being starter quality, or in Clark's case star quality, players (though I'm not on the Lopez bandwagon until he learns to catch the basketball and stops committing dumb fouls). Hill can opt out in a year. Nash isn't on an extremely expensive contract and it seems like he's not slowing down.
Yeah, we don't have a lot IN PLACE for the future, but we'll have a lot of options. It all depends on what we do with Amare. That's a huge question mark.