So much for being able to sign a max FA if Amare walks...

[MaryvalesFinest]

From BSOTS

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/ ... nual-trade

If the Suns do let Amare walk and get nothing in return, they will have about $45m on the books going into next season depending on how much Channing Frye decides he might be worth on the open market (he has a player option as well). With the salary cap projected to about around $53m that only gives the Suns about $7m in room to work with which isn't going to be nearly enough to go after any other big name players.

In essence the Suns would be "trading" Amare for a mid-level exception player. This year that included Ariza and Gortat just as way of example.

Seems like the best thing to do would be to trade him along with Jay Rich for expirings rather than just letting him walk...

[thamadkant]

And hence, why T-Mac and/or other expirings are very attractive for the Suns at the moment.

By deadline, if Suns are still on their way to the playoffs but looking like a 7th or 8th seed. They will start to initiate trades.

[JohnVancouver]

I think JRich fits for Houston quite nicely - gives them offense they're lacking, he does play hard and can defend when asked to. The problem is he's over paid but not overpaid enough to trade straight up - we need to add 9+ mil in salary. That's hard

But if we have the balls to trade Stat as well, man we can take back a lot of expiring $$$$$. opens up a lot of teams we can deal with but it means we have to commit to a rebuild of sorts.

Amare and JRich is $27mil.

you can get back a lot for that intalent and expirings. You don't get a real superstar likely but solid pieces you can use the expiring money to build around.

NY can send back Jeffries, Chandler, Mobley's contract and TDouglas, and Curry who will be a large expiring and could likely be fixed up and play decently in the meantime.
NY gets a superstar PF, who will not be unhappy to re-sign in NY and a high-scoring Dantoni type player in JR.
We get a nice three-position defender, a great young SF who will be even better with a great PG feeding him, another nice young PG who also plays defense, Mobley paid for by insurance - not a terrible deal. Also gives us trade pieces for tweaking the roster.

Or the Houston deal - if they take both guys from us we could add someone like Battier


Battie and TMEC for JR, Stat and Griffin works and we have $20 mil off the books this summer.

Battier
Nash
TMac
Hill
Frye/Collins/Lopez


Duds
Dragic
Barbs
EC

Not bad, really

[MaryvalesFinest]

A trade like Amare/Jay Rich/Griffin to the Rockets for T-Mac/Budinger/Landry works in the trade checker and seems realistic. Also saves the Suns about 4M in salary this year alone...

[Nando88]

A trade like Amare/Jay Rich/Griffin to the Rockets for T-Mac/Budinger/Landry works in the trade checker and seems realistic. Also saves the Suns about 4M in salary this year alone...

get it done! Landry is a BEAST!

[BVPN]

There is no point in clearing cap if we trade Amare...we would just be replacing him in the summer, and be back where we are now. It only makes sense if we do Jrich/Barbs, so we have a shot at a 3rd marquee player next to Nash/Amare. Amare would have to opt in for this, but if we get a good player and promise him an extension I think he would.

And of course Sarver would have to agree to go back over the cap again, which will never happen.

[Qwigglez]

Not many teams have the ability to sign max dollar players.
Amare isn't gonna walk away from 17mil. No worries.

[-SDU-]

who ever said we could sign a max FA if he left?

we already knew the situation.........

[MaryvalesFinest]

who ever said we could sign a max FA if he left?

we already knew the situation.........

Some people might have thought it was still possible so the article explains the Suns cap situation if Amare walks

[-SDU-]

ahh, only the uneducated then - personally ive always known where we stood

im hoping the "steve nash" affect will keep him here - give him the max

do you notice more than ever now they play him alongside 4 bench players for spurts? im certain they are trying to ascertain how amare plays without nash and with the other players who are the future of this team

[DirtyDez]

First of all Amare won't get a MAX deal from anyone. Second, i agree move J-Rich anywhere for anything, package him with Barbosa if it makes the process quicker.

[Frank Lee]

First of all Amare won't get a MAX deal from anyone. Second, i agree move J-Rich anywhere for anything, package him with Barbosa if it makes the process quicker.

You a a blind man .... twice


PS.... won't then a sign and trade make more since if they decide to move Stat (or if he decides to go)

[-SDU-]

First of all Amare won't get a MAX deal from anyone. Second, i agree move J-Rich anywhere for anything, package him with Barbosa if it makes the process quicker.

amare may not get max from the suns - but someone will offer him max either this year or next. he may not be in the top 5 players in the L but he would be a hell of a lot better than many other "max" paid players out there

he may not be worth it in some peoples eyes, but that doesnt mean he wont get it. you have to overpay sometimes in this league to get what you want "cough rashard cough"

as for packaging Jrich with barbosa, are you mad????? people are too hard on Jrich, he is stinking it yes, but we have him till the end of next year. he was the price we paid to offload diaw - and we got dudley back, unfortunately you take the good with the bad

im open to trading him, an expiring like Tmac or Bobby simmons would be interesting, but to just throw in barbosa, are you crazy?? hell no - dont forget that any trade of richardson instantly means barbs is the starter, trading both puts dragic in at starting 2

[Qwigglez]

A trade like Amare/Jay Rich/Griffin to the Rockets for T-Mac/Budinger/Landry works in the trade checker and seems realistic. Also saves the Suns about 4M in salary this year alone...

get it done! Landry is a BEAST!

Wow. Seriously? Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side. Landry has no game, he is a hustle player. Career highs of 27 points (twice) and 11 rebounds (four times), he isn't a BEAST, he is horrible.
And just so everyone knows... Amare is averaging 22 points and 10 boards since the beginning of December. But I guess we can use him as a filler to get rid of J-Rich, bring in two role players and a has-been injury-plagued all-star. Yeah that makes sense. Come on Kerr lets get it done!! GM of the year move right here!

[DirtyDez]

First of all Amare won't get a MAX deal from anyone. Second, i agree move J-Rich anywhere for anything, package him with Barbosa if it makes the process quicker.

amare may not get max from the suns - but someone will offer him max either this year or next. he may not be in the top 5 players in the L but he would be a hell of a lot better than many other "max" paid players out there

he may not be worth it in some peoples eyes, but that doesnt mean he wont get it. you have to overpay sometimes in this league to get what you want "cough rashard cough"

as for packaging Jrich with barbosa, are you mad????? people are too hard on Jrich, he is stinking it yes, but we have him till the end of next year. he was the price we paid to offload diaw - and we got dudley back, unfortunately you take the good with the bad

im open to trading him, an expiring like Tmac or Bobby simmons would be interesting, but to just throw in barbosa, are you crazy?? hell no - dont forget that any trade of richardson instantly means barbs is the starter, trading both puts dragic in at starting 2

I want J-Rich gone because he hurts our team and payroll... As for Amare, most 1 dimentional players who've had major injuries usually don't get MAX deals, ecspecially in this economy. Maybe 17-18 mil a year but not 20+ imo. I know the Knicks would be interested but they could get the same production from David Lee at half the price. Amare makes around 17 mil a year now. If the Suns offer him a 5 year 90 million dollar deal that's 18 mil a year which wouldn't be a MAX. I'd be fine if the Suns offered him that.

[Nando88]

A trade like Amare/Jay Rich/Griffin to the Rockets for T-Mac/Budinger/Landry works in the trade checker and seems realistic. Also saves the Suns about 4M in salary this year alone...

get it done! Landry is a BEAST!

Wow. Seriously? Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side. Landry has no game, he is a hustle player. Career highs of 27 points (twice) and 11 rebounds (four times), he isn't a BEAST, he is horrible.
And just so everyone knows... Amare is averaging 22 points and 10 boards since the beginning of December. But I guess we can use him as a filler to get rid of J-Rich, bring in two role players and a has-been injury-plagued all-star. Yeah that makes sense. Come on Kerr lets get it done!! GM of the year move right here!

BEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSST!


lol

[Qwigglez]

Get a different poster Nando. Richardson is terrible.

[thamadkant]

Suns minus Stou_emire's contract is not enough.
Suns minus Stou_emire + Richardson is enough space to get a "superstar"... or 2 semi-stars.

Thats always been the case.


Now, again, Stou_emire isnt going to get the MAX from Sarver, not with his knees, not with his lack of defense/rebounding. NOPE... Kerr is GM and have let it known who he thinks is worth MAX already.

The Rockets deal that brings Battier + T-Mac + filler for Stou_emire + Richardson is GOLD.

Battier is classy, well respected player that has the 3pt range and defense.
T-Mac has 20M expiring.

The only problem is the HOLE created at the PF/C spot.

Thats when the Suns can dangle Barbosa.
Get David Lee here, I'm sure D'Antoni would want more though. Its a hard sell.



So thats 2 unlikely scenarios, still the Suns are not better than the top 4 teams in the WEST.

So if your are Kerr... whaat do you do. I say run with the first trade and keep Barbosa. Suns can slide Lopez/Clark/Frye/Hill front court rotation. And let Nash create miracles... the good thing about this is come 2010 Suns can get their hands in the FA market.

[Nando88]

Get a different poster Nando. Richardson is terrible.

i know, i got it b4 the seasn when i believed that he would help our team... he sucks

[Kerrsed]

As i posted in another thread. Do a 3 way with Hou and Was.

PHX/HOU/WAS

PHX IN: Tmac/Blatche
PHX OUT: Jrich/Amare

HOU IN: Jrich/Butler
HOU OUT: Tmac

WAS IN: Amare
WAS OUT: Butler/Blatche

Hou gets Butler AND Richardson for T-Pains contract. Nobody really wants to take on Jrichs contract, but if they could pick up Butler for just McGrady then i could see them eating it.

Washington shakes things up by adding Amare(who said to the DC media "He wouldnt mind playing there", and would likely re-sign there). The lose Butler and Blatche and probably get the most they can for those 2 .

We get a HUGE expiring and young potential in Blatche. This of course would put us into a rebuild mode. About time as far as im concerned!