Amare Extension and / or Exportation ?

[Frank Lee]

Amare expecting trade rumors AND Knobert and Kerr meeting with his agent about an extension ????

Coincidental ?

This just reeks with a deal coming down the pipe. One month before the deadline, when, up until now, all parties were content to wait till the off season to discuss contracts ?? Interesting.


Anyone but MVF want to chime in ?

[DirtyDez]

I hope it's a sign and trade so we can actually get something good in return. But i still think he finishes this year in a Suns' uniform.

[realsunsfan]

Well I think maybe they are seeing that Amare has come back form his injuries just about completely and is worth big bucks, just how much I do not know. I think they will talk and see if Amare is truly about winning and is willing to settle for less than max to allow the team to get some real help for him and Nash. If they can come to an agreement for less than max with the guaranty that they will get them some real help through a trade of some sort, now is the time to do it, but they must first know how much they are going to have to spend on Amare. With the Deadline fast approaching, and teams figuring out our one dimensionality, something has to give............

[nevetsov]

The thought didn't even cross my mind tbo, but that could very well just be the eternal optimist in me hoping that the Suns brass had seen enough to know that the injuries are a thing of the past and that his quality play is back and here to stay. I recall Kerr saying at the outset that they didn't offer an extension in the offseason because they wanted some time to evaluate his recovery.. I would assume that time has passed?

Optimism or short-sightedness on my behalf?

Frank do you have any of those rose coloured glasses for me? After recent events you probably have an abundance

[Frank Lee]

Jeezus.... between you and RSunsF, you make me want to don a pair



I'll keep a box handy, just in case Stat gets his extension, and doesn't change zipcodes. Might have to get a bigger pair for SDU.

[realsunsfan]

Actually if you look at the last month or two, Nash and Amare are the only two that have played consistently at the top or near the top of their games. Everybody else has at times gone missing completely. If they had another playmaker (iso player) to provide a different mode of attack so they could not key in on Nash and Stat we would again be a tough match up for anybody. We need to get them some help, not trade them away..........

[Mad Psyentist]

I hope the talk of an extension means Amare's staying. I know some fans don't want him here because he's asking for the max, but isn't the max another team can offer him significantly less than the max we can potentially offer him? What I mean by this is why do we have to shell out 20+ mil to keep him when another team can't even approach that number unless there's a sign and trade. We don't need to outbid ourselves, just other teams.

Either way, at least if we sign him to an extension, we'd have more leverage in trade talks. Honestly though, I have more of a problem with spending 20 or so mil on the two guys at our sg spot rather than giving that money to Amare. Two SGs who are really only asked to put points on the board and can't even do that on a consistent basis. Sigh .

[nevetsov]

If they had another playmaker (iso player) to provide a different mode of attack so they could not key in on Nash and Stat we would again be a tough match up for anybody. We need to get them some help, not trade them away..........

Pretty sure that's what we were hoping for from JRich.. that was until Kerr saw Frye hit a couple three's in practice one day and thought "wow, imagine if he could do that all the time!"...

.. and just like that, the offensive pecking order became:

Amare
Nash
Frye
Hill
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J Rich

Aaaaaand we all whinge that Jason isn't averaging 20ppg on his 5 shot attempts..

I am liking the idea of starting Lopez more and more, in only for the fact that it forces JRich higher up the pecking order.

[DBrimstone]

I think in the firs five minutes of the meaning Amare will be chanting "MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX!!!" And Kerr will decline. Then they'll discuss where Amare could stomach to be traded to. Unless Amare's willing to do the nice thing and take less money, but I'm not sure he'll be willing to do that

[justinb80]

Hopefully there's a deal coming down. I've always been a proponent of starting the complete rebuild, but this season's good start kind of tempered that for me. Someone on Bright Side of the Sun suggested this trade, that I kinda like:

Amare Stoudemire to the OKC Thunder for James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Etan Thomas' expiring, and our 2010 first-rounder back.

[Calvin Klein]

Actually if you look at the last month or two, Nash and Amare are the only two that have played consistently at the top or near the top of their games. Everybody else has at times gone missing completely. If they had another playmaker (iso player) to provide a different mode of attack so they could not key in on Nash and Stat we would again be a tough match up for anybody. We need to get them some help, not trade them away..........

Absolutely. I don't get why so many peope are thinking of trading him when he's been the best player on the court alongside Nash.

[nevetsov]

Someone on Bright Side of the Sun suggested this trade, that I kinda like:

Amare Stoudemire to the OKC Thunder for James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Etan Thomas' expiring, and our 2010 first-rounder back.

Ugh, really? No offense but that's 10 cents on the dollar at best. The pick would likely be in the 8-14 range, and the best we'd get back in an unproven SG (while we are spending a combined $20m per on that position anyway).

Plus we'd probably miss the playoffs and the sweet sweet cashflow of a first round exit.

[justinb80]

Someone on Bright Side of the Sun suggested this trade, that I kinda like:

Amare Stoudemire to the OKC Thunder for James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Etan Thomas' expiring, and our 2010 first-rounder back.

Ugh, really? No offense but that's 10 cents on the dollar at best. The pick would likely be in the 8-14 range, and the best we'd get back in an unproven SG (while we are spending a combined $20m per on that position anyway).

Plus we'd probably miss the playoffs and the sweet sweet cashflow of a first round exit.

It's not the best trade option. But I do like Harden. No way he's a star, but he's a great No. 2 or 3 guy. The expiring gives us a bit of flexibility and our pick back allows us to finally begin to rebuild for real. I dunno, dangerous using Amare to get that pick back, though.

I'd rather do a deal I've suggested before: Stoudemire/Richardson to the Heat for Michael Beasley, Jermaine O'Neal's expiring, and Mario Chalmers.

[Miklo]

I hope we extend and keep Amar'e. He's looking good and I'll roll the dice. Getting rid of him is certainly not the answer for us. Who could we get that would be anywhere near as good as him? I say we take the chance that he stays healthy and keeps up this level of play, instead of trading that chance for Anthony Randolph or Tyrus Thomas.

[lilfishi22]

To be honest, I have doubts that Kerr would move Amare before the trade deadline unless he gets an offer he can't refuse. FWIW, Amare is a huge part of this team and it's in our best interest to keep him here. I believe Kerr will try to use this season to convince Amare to take less than the max deals he's been asking for. A max deal is obviously a deal breaker for both sides so while Kerr and Co. won't budge there's a slim chance Amare will.

I just think it's in both parties' best interest to finish out the season without making any major commitments. Amare's trade value is probably as high as it's been this season and it's possible it could keep rising till the end of the season. He'll have more max offers if his value continues to rise. On the other hand, we have more time to evaluate Amare's condition and decide how close to a max contract he should get.

Someone on Bright Side of the Sun suggested this trade, that I kinda like:

Amare Stoudemire to the OKC Thunder for James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Etan Thomas' expiring, and our 2010 first-rounder back.

Ugh, really? No offense but that's 10 cents on the dollar at best. The pick would likely be in the 8-14 range, and the best we'd get back in an unproven SG (while we are spending a combined $20m per on that position anyway).

Plus we'd probably miss the playoffs and the sweet sweet cashflow of a first round exit.

Ehh no thanks. Even if we miss playoffs, the pick would likely be a low lottery pick. Harden is a nice player but I'd prefer Curry over him so if we do make a deal for Amare, I'd rather it be with GS.

[Frank Lee]

One scenario has Knobert and Kerr having a trade offer(s) for Stat, knowing that the other team(s) is/are prepared to give the max to Amare come off season. In order for the deal to go down, Amare has to be on board.



Do you think Knobert is going to appeal to him to take less money for the team, when that chincy bastard has tinkered in the name of $$$ since he became an 'active' owner ? I don't expect Stat to stay here, if HE is the one asked to sacrifice money.

Why would he sign for anything less at this point? There are no guarantees this team will be any different next yr.

Remember a few yrs back ??? They appeased Stat by getting KThomas. Then they got Shaq.... Who are we are going to entice Stat with now ??? Brad Miller ??? Or be content with Dopez and Collins ? Stat needs a real center to play with.

Keep in mind how reactionary this front office has been. I think, perhaps for once, they see the hand writing on the wall.

If I were Stat, i'd hold true till the bidding began.

(man, I had to get those 'shades' off, they were clouding my vision)

[realsunsfan]

This quote by Amare is what makes me think there is a possibility that he would sign for less than max "IF" they assure him that they will get him and Nash help..........

"It's always about what's the best situation for the Suns organization and myself," Stoudemire said. "Wherever there is an equilibrium or common denominator, we can settle on that. Winning is the most important thing to me. Being a contender. If we can do it here, then I would love to stay."

here is the link to the whole article in the AZ Republic,


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/01/17/20100117spt-suns-amare-stoudemire-trade.html','555'

[lilfishi22]

I don't see Amare signing for less at all, however I don't think Kerr and Co. would want this season's "success" to go down the drain by trading Amare for pieces. With a playoff spot in sight, I think there's too much at stake for Sarver to just throw this season out.

I'd imagine Kerr and Co. would try to stall the negotiation till the end of the season so Sarver will be happy with a season of "competitiveness" and maybe a first round exit. I still stand by the notion that unless there's a deal we can't refuse, Kerr will try to keep Amare in town.

However, if we continue this slump and seem like we may miss the playoffs, Kerr may swing a deal.

I highly doubt we'd give Amare a max contract so we'll most likely see a S&T at the end of the season. A resigned Amare is worth a lot more than an unsure Amare who has opt out power.

[MaryvalesFinest]

We all know management isn't going to give him the max and some other teams will throw it at him once the other big name free agents either sign with their own teams or move to others. The smart thing to be would to trade him to a team he agrees to go to because at least they will get something and might even be able to dump Jay Rich with him. If he walks that would only show management has no clue what their doing.

[lilfishi22]

If he walks that would only show management has no clue what their doing

+1.