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Post#1 » by MaryvalesFinest » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:25 pm

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30439

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Yes. I was skeptical last week when I did my trade story. But since then I've had several signals come out of Phoenix that Amare is available for the right price. I think the Suns are really concerned that he wants to leave for a bigger market. I would've said last week there was a 10 percent chance he gets traded. I'd up it to 40 to 50% now based on what I'm beginning to hear.
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Post#2 » by realsunsfan » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:31 pm

MaryvalesFinest wrote:http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30439

Chad Ford (1:17 PM)


Yes. I was skeptical last week when I did my trade story. But since then I've had several signals come out of Phoenix that Amare is available for the right price. I think the Suns are really concerned that he wants to leave for a bigger market. I would've said last week there was a 10 percent chance he gets traded. I'd up it to 40 to 50% now based on what I'm beginning to hear.



so what is it he is starting to hear ???? I love it when they make the comments like ?what I'm beginning to hear" and not say what it is they are hearing ..............
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Post#3 » by sunfire0112 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:37 pm

I wonder what "the right price" is. :-?
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Post#4 » by Mr. Sun » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:41 pm

I wonder who Chad Fraud is hearing from?
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Post#5 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:41 pm

I will no longer be a Suns fan if the sole face of the franchise is Steve Nash. Or if we trade Amare for some idiotic trade.
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Post#6 » by realsunsfan » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:43 pm

Mr. Sun wrote:I wonder who Chad Fraud is hearing from?


He is hearing the same things we heard yesterday...........lol...........Amare's name will always be in trade rumors............especially with the contract status where it is right now....... :roll:
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Post#7 » by Mujahydeen » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:53 pm

Chad Ford is hearing voices.
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Post#8 » by Frank Lee » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:59 pm

haha

WE are probably one of his sources
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Post#9 » by ma_falaa_50 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:59 pm

do they actually pay this guy to write this stuff?
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Post#10 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:19 pm

Amare's name in trade talks?! No way!?
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Post#11 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:51 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Amare's name in trade talks?! No way!?



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Post#12 » by Miklo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:13 pm

I thought I would open the article and see specific trade rumors. Geez, ESPN is starting to become old news central - are they EVER the first to break any stories anymore?
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Post#13 » by hunterxaz » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:16 pm

Why would we trade Amare?
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Post#14 » by MaryvalesFinest » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:44 pm

hunterxaz wrote:Why would we trade Amare?


If they don't want to pay him or know he's going to walk
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Post#15 » by MaryvalesFinest » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:45 pm

sunfire0112 wrote:I wonder what "the right price" is. :-?


I guess we'll have to wait and find out :lol:
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Post#16 » by Miklo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:50 pm

hunterxaz wrote:Why would we trade Amare?


If we wanted to make a halfass rebuilding attempt. Or for many at this board, it's just because they get bored when they aren't using the trade machine. :lol:

I say halfass rebuilding attempt, because to rebuild you have to have 1 or 2 cornerstones of a franchise. Tyrus Thomas is not one of those. Nor is Anthony Randolph. Nor is "Tracy McGrady's expiring contract", or any signing that could result from the cap space. Nash is like 48, so by sending Amar'e out for crap you are just making the Nash show a lot less interesting, not building a contender.

To be clear, I am saying that I think the idea of trading Amar'e in a package for one pretty good player, 10 crappy fillers and an okay draft pick (I haven't seen ANY trade idea that nets us more than this) is ludicrous. When you have a superstar, you give him what he wants. Amar'e is our superstar. He IS A MAX PLAYER. Give him how much he wants, the supporting cast he wants, period. Anything else and guess what? The next time we have an Amar'e-calibre player is when our traded-for 8th pick this year develops in 5-6 years.

Let's say you know Amar'e will walk. He is still hard to trade because he would walk in many situations. S&T him or something, or package Amar'e with every other Suns player and try to get a superstar back, because if not like I said above we will end up with Dragic/JRich/Duds/Clark/Lopez for 5 years. At least in that case we will get 5 #1 picks.
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Post#17 » by Biff » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:07 pm

Miklo wrote:
hunterxaz wrote:Why would we trade Amare?


If we wanted to make a halfass rebuilding attempt. Or for many at this board, it's just because they get bored when they aren't using the trade machine. :lol:

I say halfass rebuilding attempt, because to rebuild you have to have 1 or 2 cornerstones of a franchise. Tyrus Thomas is not one of those. Nor is Anthony Randolph. Nor is "Tracy McGrady's expiring contract", or any signing that could result from the cap space. Nash is like 48, so by sending Amar'e out for crap you are just making the Nash show a lot less interesting, not building a contender.

To be clear, I am saying that I think the idea of trading Amar'e in a package for one pretty good player, 10 crappy fillers and an okay draft pick (I haven't seen ANY trade idea that nets us more than this) is ludicrous. When you have a superstar, you give him what he wants. Amar'e is our superstar. He IS A MAX PLAYER. Give him how much he wants, the supporting cast he wants, period. Anything else and guess what? The next time we have an Amar'e-calibre player is when our traded-for 8th pick this year develops in 5-6 years.

Let's say you know Amar'e will walk. He is still hard to trade because he would walk in many situations. S&T him or something, or package Amar'e with every other Suns player and try to get a superstar back, because if not like I said above we will end up with Dragic/JRich/Duds/Clark/Lopez for 5 years. At least in that case we will get 5 #1 picks.


You are delusional. The throw money away era is over for now. The economy is in the dumps and most of the owners are going to spend their money far more wisely. I honestly think we're going to see only a few teams dominate due to their owners willingness to spend during this recession/depression. Sarver's money comes from an industry that isn't doing so hot right now, so I don't think he is going to be one of the few who do.

Amare is not worth max money in this economy and I'll eat my hat if he gets it. He'll get close to what he's making now, but I highly doubt anyone overspends.
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Post#18 » by Miklo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:27 pm

Biff wrote:You are delusional.


Stopped reading there. I don't respond to personal attacks. Thanks for your feedback, though.
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Post#19 » by MaryvalesFinest » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:43 pm

Miklo wrote:
hunterxaz wrote:Why would we trade Amare?


If we wanted to make a halfass rebuilding attempt. Or for many at this board, it's just because they get bored when they aren't using the trade machine. :lol:

I say halfass rebuilding attempt, because to rebuild you have to have 1 or 2 cornerstones of a franchise. Tyrus Thomas is not one of those. Nor is Anthony Randolph. Nor is "Tracy McGrady's expiring contract", or any signing that could result from the cap space. Nash is like 48, so by sending Amar'e out for crap you are just making the Nash show a lot less interesting, not building a contender.

To be clear, I am saying that I think the idea of trading Amar'e in a package for one pretty good player, 10 crappy fillers and an okay draft pick (I haven't seen ANY trade idea that nets us more than this) is ludicrous. When you have a superstar, you give him what he wants. Amar'e is our superstar. He IS A MAX PLAYER. Give him how much he wants, the supporting cast he wants, period. Anything else and guess what? The next time we have an Amar'e-calibre player is when our traded-for 8th pick this year develops in 5-6 years.

Let's say you know Amar'e will walk. He is still hard to trade because he would walk in many situations. S&T him or something, or package Amar'e with every other Suns player and try to get a superstar back, because if not like I said above we will end up with Dragic/JRich/Duds/Clark/Lopez for 5 years. At least in that case we will get 5 #1 picks.



Is Amare really a max contract player though?

He's had a history of injury problems and might need microfracture again down the road. He's already lost alot of his athleticism and would he really take this team to the next level? Right now the Suns are struggling to make the playoffs with Nash and Hill, in two years when both of them are gone can Amare lead a team of role players to the playoffs? Plus with the cap projected to go down is Amare really worth spending 1/3 or even more of your teams capspace on?
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Post#20 » by pidi » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:49 pm

Biff wrote:
Miklo wrote:
hunterxaz wrote:Why would we trade Amare?


If we wanted to make a halfass rebuilding attempt. Or for many at this board, it's just because they get bored when they aren't using the trade machine. :lol:

I say halfass rebuilding attempt, because to rebuild you have to have 1 or 2 cornerstones of a franchise. Tyrus Thomas is not one of those. Nor is Anthony Randolph. Nor is "Tracy McGrady's expiring contract", or any signing that could result from the cap space. Nash is like 48, so by sending Amar'e out for crap you are just making the Nash show a lot less interesting, not building a contender.

To be clear, I am saying that I think the idea of trading Amar'e in a package for one pretty good player, 10 crappy fillers and an okay draft pick (I haven't seen ANY trade idea that nets us more than this) is ludicrous. When you have a superstar, you give him what he wants. Amar'e is our superstar. He IS A MAX PLAYER. Give him how much he wants, the supporting cast he wants, period. Anything else and guess what? The next time we have an Amar'e-calibre player is when our traded-for 8th pick this year develops in 5-6 years.

Let's say you know Amar'e will walk. He is still hard to trade because he would walk in many situations. S&T him or something, or package Amar'e with every other Suns player and try to get a superstar back, because if not like I said above we will end up with Dragic/JRich/Duds/Clark/Lopez for 5 years. At least in that case we will get 5 #1 picks.


You are delusional. The throw money away era is over for now. The economy is in the dumps and most of the owners are going to spend their money far more wisely. I honestly think we're going to see only a few teams dominate due to their owners willingness to spend during this recession/depression. Sarver's money comes from an industry that isn't doing so hot right now, so I don't think he is going to be one of the few who do.

Amare is not worth max money in this economy and I'll eat my hat if he gets it. He'll get close to what he's making now, but I highly doubt anyone overspends.



mh i agrre with mik, we should extend him nomatter what.. and i have to disagree with biff, of course the economy is in the dumps, sarver has lost alot of money and maybe ama´re is not a max type player. but some idiotic owner out of miami, cleveland etc are willing to spend some money to hold theyre own superstars. and thats the point why we should resign him at the maximum - although i think he should earn a little less than the max...
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