suns: do the right thing.

[sunsfan3]

okay as we all know, the suns have no shot at a title at this point.
as most of us would agree to, the suns need to start rebuilding...

now, we have certain players on our team that deserve a ring, i.e. Grant Hill and Steve Nash...
in my opinion, Kerr should wait to see how this coming offseason's free agency works out, then do his best to trade both those players to the best contending team, and in return get 1st round draft picks and also younger players...
considering we'll be trading to contending teams, we can also involve a 3rd team so that we can get young talent and expiring contracts.... maybe a trade with Cavs (or knicks, depending on where lebron ends up) and memphis? or a trade with lakers and thunder? or magic?

its not up to me, but i think it'll be wrong to let HIll and especially Nash leave the NBA title-less...

Kerr/Sarver, please do what's right morally, which eventually leads to the right thing for ur team..

some of the best point guards of all time dont have a ring, even though they deserve one or more..
dont let Nash join the title-less greats

[MaryvalesFinest]

I'm all for it but I have a hard time seeing them trading Nash, unless he demands out.

[WTFsunsFTW]

do not want

[OrangeNation]

We only extended Nash to make our rebuilding transition smoother while keep selling tickets, definitely not competing for championship . And I bet he knows that days like this will be coming when he resign. Overall, he's the one who said that he didn't care if he has a ring or not. But, it's hard to imagine how worse for how long we will be without Nash, when teams like MEM has not make the playoff for several years despite more talents.

[RaisingArizona]

Legacy= overrated bs that espn cares way too much about. Nash likes it here and right now we're pretty competitive so I don't see the reason to just blow it up.

[hunterxaz]

Suns have a chance to win a title this year... What else is the point of playing ball? To have fun? These guys are competitors. They want a title this year. You call yourselves fans?

They had no chance last year because they missed the playoffs their chances of winning are just as good as Lakers, Mavs, Celts, Cavs, etc.

[albasuna]

to be honest I don't think Nash and Hill are that concerned about winning a championship. They like it in Phoenix. They like the players, the city and the team staff. If they wanted to win they wouldn't have signed those extensions.

[Nando88]

Suns have a chance to win a title this year... What else is the point of playing ball? To have fun? These guys are competitors. They want a title this year. You call yourselves fans?

They had no chance last year because they missed the playoffs their chances of winning are just as good as Lakers, Mavs, Celts, Cavs, etc.

lol dude, u are in some SERIOUS denial, its at the point where its not even funny anymore.

[Sreister]

do not want

What he said.

Also, there IS a thing called loyalty. These guys knew what they were signing. They seem to have a general love for the organization and, I feel, that it means more to them to stay here than to win a championship. Sure they'd love to, but they are also loyal. At least, that's my opinion. I obviously cannot speak for either of them. But like I said, they signed contracts and knew that we were a long shot, anyway.

[Miklo]

their chances of winning are just as good as Lakers, Mavs, Celts, Cavs, etc.

I can think of a few people who would disagree with you there...we're gonna need a montage...montaaage









the list goes on...

[DirtyDez]

I'm all for rebuilding but i don't trust Kerr to do it the right way. Hire Sam Presti or Kevin Pritchard or a GM that has experience rebuilding teams to do it. I give it the green light.

[Miklo]

I'm all for rebuilding but i don't trust Kerr to do it the right way. Hire Sam Presti or Kevin Pritchard or a GM that has experience rebuilding teams to do it. I give it the green light.

I just don't know how much a GM change would do for it. The incompetence starts higher up with Sarver and his henchman Griffin...I think you can put anyone in there as GM and they will still have to be Sarver's puppet. The thing is, what does rebuilding mean..for Sarver? Could you ever imagine this team clearing $20 million of cap space and going after a LeBron? No, we are going to go for value players. And that's fine, but look at teams who rebuild by making a dramatic whirlwind of moves to assemble the most talented roster in the NBA (Ainge in Boston, NY if they can pull in a name or 2 this season from their dramatic trades) ..versus teams who are "rebuilding" for 15 years and even then can hardly make the playoffs. Does Sarver have what it takes to stay out of that rut?

[hunterxaz]

We need to rebuild around Amare and Steve like we have been. Steve has been on an upswing so far, and has shown zero signs of aging to where his game has been effected. He's the #1 PG in the NBA. I mean, who better to build around than him and a top 5 PF in the NBA? Let Dragic continue to develop alongside him, and find a suitable replacement for J-Rich at SG (defender) and SF (Hill -- not sure how much more time he has left in his legs)

We are still contending. Anyone who makes it to the playoffs has a chance at making it to the finals.

[Miklo]

We are still contending. Anyone who makes it to the playoffs has a chance at making it to the finals.

I agree...we talk about blowing it up but many don't realize the implications. If we can capitalize on our opening with Nash and Amar'e (maybe extend that window by re-signing both) then we need to, because rebuilding means we may not be having this playoff conversation for 3 years at minimum.

[sunsfever68]

You don't rebuild around Nash he's 37 years old. Come on man give it up. Amare is a piece we can have for the future but he might opt out and sign elsewhere this summer we'll have to see how it plays out. I'd like to keep him here for the right price because I have a feeling a front line of Clark Amare and Lopez will be damn good for years to come

[Miklo]

You don't rebuild around Nash he's 37 years old. Come on man give it up.

That's exactly what he and I are saying. You don't rebuild around a 37 year old. You RIDE HIM TO THE FINALS. If we can just fill in the gaps of our supporting cast, a 37 year old Nash is a much more valuable playoff piece than we would have in at least the next 3 years of rebuilding. Look at models from the past. Veteran point guards are typically a good thing for your shot at Finals appearances. Look at John Stockton's later years for example.

[SUN]

I don't really like the idea... I'm all up for trading Grant though, I think Nash has a few years left in him, I say trade Grant to a bad team, get a first rounder and build up the team. I honestly don't think Nash or Hill care that much about winning titles. I think they just want to have fun.

[Miklo]

I don't really like the idea... I'm all up for trading Grant though, I think Nash has a few years left in him, I say trade Grant to a bad team, get a first rounder and build up the team. I honestly don't think Nash or Hill care that much about winning titles. I think they just want to have fun.

I don't know who gives us a first rounder for Grant though. Invaluable piece and a value at the price but I think he's worth more to us than we could get back in any trade from another team, if that makes any sense.

[lilfishi22]

We need to rebuild around Amare and Steve like we have been. Steve has been on an upswing so far, and has shown zero signs of aging to where his game has been effected. He's the #1 PG in the NBA. I mean, who better to build around than him and a top 5 PF in the NBA? Let Dragic continue to develop alongside him, and find a suitable replacement for J-Rich at SG (defender) and SF (Hill -- not sure how much more time he has left in his legs)

We are still contending. Anyone who makes it to the playoffs has a chance at making it to the finals.

hunterxaz, you are delusional. Just because you make the playoffs doesn't mean your chances of winning a title is as good as that of the true contenders. Just because the Bucks make playoffs doesn't mean their chances are as good as the Cavs, Magic, Celtics or even the Hawks. Just because we make playoffs doesn't mean we have what it takes to go all the way. The 16 "best" teams go into the playoffs with a chances of winning a title, but that doesn't mean the chances are equal.

Honestly dude, you don't know what you are talking about half the time. You say Nash is the #1 PG in the NBA but on the other thread you said Nash gets outplayed by 4-5 other PGs because of his age. You can't say he's the best PG if he gets outplayed by not 1, not 2, not even 3 but 4-5 PGs.

As for contention, that window closed two seasons ago. Considering we have an ultra-thrifty owner and an incompetent GM, there's no way we could re-tool and be back for a championship run anytime soon. C'mon man, open your eyes, we don't have the size, defense or the players to beat any of the contending teams in a 7 game series. How can we be a contender when there's only one guy on our team that can proficiently penetrate the defense? How can we be a contender when our best rebounder is Amare Stoudemire? How can we be a contender when our best defender is a 37yo Grant Hill? How can we be a contender when the backups to Amare and Lopez is Channing Frye and Lou Amundson?

lol dude, u are in some SERIOUS denial, its at the point where its not even funny anymore.

[Qwigglez]

Since bad teams really want Grant Hill for a first round pick. That doesn't make any sense.