NBA Top 10 Overrated Players

[hunterxaz]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3570 ... ted-player

rose, jennings, stuckey, anthony, ellis, ariza, aldridge, durant, turkoglu, rondo

can't really make any arguments there. ha

[DaDragicShow]

My friends always think Amare Stoudemire is overrated.

[Sun Scorched]

Wow. Not one Sun. Not even on his "Dishonorable Mention" list.

I'm glad he didn't say Stoudemire. I was impressed with his firery take on Bosh though, I totally agree.

When people say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question"... I just shake my head.

No people, there are questions. Lots of questions.

I think Stoudemire's trade value has been dictating people's views of his real value. In my opinion, Bosh is overrated and Stoudemire is currently underrated and that perceievd gulf is giving people the freedom to say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question."

[DirtyDez]

Worst article ever written but then again it's Bleacher Report.

[lilfishi22]

LOL language-wise, it looks like it was written by Hunter. I've seen the same things written about EC.

That article is complete trash. Look at the comments section and this Tyson C fella lists house his 10 players who are not overrated. The guy has Larry Hughes, Allen Iverson and Corey Maggette in that list.

[lilfishi22]

Wow. Not one Sun. Not even on his "Dishonorable Mention" list.

I'm glad he didn't say Stoudemire. I was impressed with his firery take on Bosh though, I totally agree.

When people say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question"... I just shake my head.

No people, there are questions. Lots of questions.

I think Stoudemire's trade value has been dictating people's views of his real value. In my opinion, Bosh is overrated and Stoudemire is currently underrated and that perceievd gulf is giving people the freedom to say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question."

I think Amare is a bit overrated and Bosh is severely underrated. Bosh had been the go-to guy for the Raps since his 2nd season, except he's *never* had the kind of team mates around him that would make his team better. He does everything for them, from rebounding to scoring to being their leader, yet he hardly gets any help from anyone else. Amare, as much as I like him, is a glorified roleplayer, a superstar roleplayer if you will. He goes out there to score every night but only shows up on some nights to rebound. He's not a vocal leader and by the way he plays sometimes, he can't be a lead by example kinda guy either. Please don't try and look at Amare's recent stretch of 30/10 games and say he better than Bosh, Bosh has been a *consistent* 23/10 player for two seasons already and had another 22/10 season earlier in his career. Amare has yet to put up a single 20/10 season, considering all the hype around him, I think that is overrating.

Put Bosh on like contender like Cleveland, and I can bet they are a much better team than they are with Amare.

[dantian]

Bosh is an agile and finesse bigman. Amare is an agile and power bigman. Bosh is better at defensive switches to smaller players as he showed in Olympic games. He has a low-post move as good as Jefferson, Boozer, West and Randolph.
Neither Bosh and Amare could lead a team to a title by himself. But Amare is the most unstoppable bigman in the paint when he has room for one step. In fact, Amare would make a killer championship team core with the likes of Wade and Paul, or even Nash if the latter could conserve energy and health for playoff games and crunch times in any game.

[albasuna]

Bosh and Amare have practically the same offense, but I'd still prefer Bosh isolation than an Amare isolation. Bosh also has better defense than Amare. Have you guys forgotten that Amare plays bad defense?

The only reason Bosh has done nothing in the playoffs is because his team is the suck.

[Risensun]

No way Durant is overrated. He's a phenomenal player and one of the main reasons the Thunder aren't the worst team in the league.

[lilfishi22]

Bosh and Amare have practically the same offense, but I'd still prefer Bosh isolation than an Amare isolation. Bosh also has better defense than Amare. Have you guys forgotten that Amare plays bad defense?

The only reason Bosh has done nothing in the playoffs is because his team is the suck.

That's what I've been tying to say. Bosh can get it done if you give him the ball anywhere from 3PT line in. You can give him the ball in iso and he's going to make a play for himself or for a team mate. I don't think Amare is as good as Bosh in that area. Defensively they probably have about the same stopping power (not much) but Bosh is a much better rebounder and rebounding is a form of defense.

If we look at the team mates Bosh has had over the years with Toronto, he has never had a consistent 18-20ppg scorer next to him (Mike James for 1 season but that hardly counts), he's never had a double digit rebounder next to him. All the while Amare has had Nash spoon feeding him, KT and Marion doing all the rebounding and defensive work and a system to works to his advantage (3pt shooters). Amare has had it easy with the Suns. I can only imagine how good Bosh would look if he played next to the kind of guys Amare has had the privilege to play with.

[WTFsunsFTW]

No way Durant is overrated. He's a phenomenal player and one of the main reasons the Thunder aren't the worst team in the league.

Totally. Very misguided article imo. All id and no rationality. And yes, Rondo cant shoot, but he is an amazing player. And the dishonorable mention is about 50% worth reading.

[TASTIC]

Ugh as soon as I saw Rose and Durant there I knew I wasn't clicking that link

[MrVince]

Eventually Durant will start to get overrated.

The pace of his potential and growth cannot keep up with the pace of the hype.

[JasonDaPsycho]

A totally biased article

2. Brandon Jennings: Jennings is probably one of the worst starting guards in the NBA. I don't care what else he does on the court. You shouldn't be taking 15 shots per game when you're shooting 36%. Jennings is the model of inefficiency.

Oh please, the 55-point game resulted in everyone giving him an all-star defense treatment.
Plus, you have to be agreesive when your teammates rely on you to get themselves open.

7. LaMarcus Aldridge: His new contract is a joke. Aldridge is not an all-star caliber player. At year 4, it is likely that he will never become one either. He is extremely soft. His career high in rebound is 8.1 per game this season despite standing at 6'11. He doesn't get to the free throw line and he rarely blocks shots.

Andrea Bargnani doesn't grab 11 rebounds a game despite standing at 7ft.
Dirk Nowitzki doesn't grab 11 rebounds a game despite standing at 7ft.
Zach Randolph doesn't block shots.
There's a difference between overpaid and overrated.

8. Kevin Durant: Durant is getting a lot of hype because the NBA is trying to market him as a replacement of Kobe Bryant as the future rival of LeBron James... If Corey Maggette takes as many shots as he does, he would be just as good.

KD's FG% seems to be too high, don't you think?
If Corey Maggete takes as many shots, I'm not sure if he's gonna make half as much as KD does.

10. Rajon Rondo: Rondo can't shoot to save his life. Without the Big 3 opening up scoring opportunities for him, he would be shooting less than 40% with the Nets or Minny. Hell, he can't even hit his free throws.

Rondo couldn't do jack without the Big 3 = FACT
Rondo not good because he can't shoot? I guess the writer didn't have the balls to talk about JKidd back then...

And his comment on Deron Williams is a joke (stacked roster + hall of fame coach, yet never made Jazz a legitimate contender).
John Stockton AND Karl Malone couldn't have done it and now you're expect Deron to do it on his own? Seriously?

And Jonny Flynn (horrible playmaking ability)?
They're playing triangle offense. Oh please.

And he sure wasn't commenting on LBJ

[Miklo]

Ugh as soon as I saw Rose and Durant there I knew I wasn't clicking that link

Yeah what the hell

Terrible report written by someone who apparently doesn't watch NBA games

Durant, Rose, Rondo overrated?

DURANT?

[Sun Scorched]

Wow. Not one Sun. Not even on his "Dishonorable Mention" list.

I'm glad he didn't say Stoudemire. I was impressed with his firery take on Bosh though, I totally agree.

When people say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question"... I just shake my head.

No people, there are questions. Lots of questions.

I think Stoudemire's trade value has been dictating people's views of his real value. In my opinion, Bosh is overrated and Stoudemire is currently underrated and that perceievd gulf is giving people the freedom to say "Bosh over Stoudemire, no question."

I think Amare is a bit overrated and Bosh is severely underrated. Bosh had been the go-to guy for the Raps since his 2nd season, except he's *never* had the kind of team mates around him that would make his team better. He does everything for them, from rebounding to scoring to being their leader, yet he hardly gets any help from anyone else. Amare, as much as I like him, is a glorified roleplayer, a superstar roleplayer if you will. He goes out there to score every night but only shows up on some nights to rebound. He's not a vocal leader and by the way he plays sometimes, he can't be a lead by example kinda guy either. Please don't try and look at Amare's recent stretch of 30/10 games and say he better than Bosh, Bosh has been a *consistent* 23/10 player for two seasons already and had another 22/10 season earlier in his career. Amare has yet to put up a single 20/10 season, considering all the hype around him, I think that is overrating.

I'm not saying Stoudemire is better than Bosh, what I am saying is that the gulf is not as wide as some people make it out to be. Defense? We got it. Rebounding? We're on the same page. Iso? Okay, slight edge to Bosh. Everything else gets closer to a wash than clearly standing in one or the others favor.

Put Bosh on like contender like Cleveland, and I can bet they are a much better team than they are with Amare.

See, I don't think it works that way. Some players simply play better together. Maybe Bosh would be better next to LeBron, but maybe not. Just because he's better on paper this year doesn't mean he would be better next to player X.

I would tell you that Stoudemire's ability to work well with a star guard would make him more deadly with a Williams or a Paul than would Bosh. I say that with a straight face. Bosh wouldn't be bad with either of those two, but the synergy might not be the same.

Now a Bosh and LeBron combo would be interesting, but currently both gravitate towards iso type situations which kills ball movement. Mo Williams is an undersized SG that plays PG, but LeBron is the real ball handler... so what would be the excuse in CLE for Bosh? He's still not playing with a playmaker like Nash?

I guess what I am getting at is this:

It will be hard to get these two players into similar or identical situations from which to judge them evenly. But, just because Bosh averages more rebounds and plays marginally better defense doesn't make him a lock to win a championship with player X.

On a side note:

If I'm New York, I'd rather have LeBron and Stoudemire than LeBron and Bosh. Just saying. Get a defensive & rebound-oriented C to mop up for Stoudemire on the defensive end essentially masking Stoudmire's biggest knock and you'll be glad you chose the guy that can take over the game offensively when LeBron is off.

[justinb80]

Overall, very stupid article that seemed to be going against the grain just for the hell of it. I agree that Rodney Stuckey, Monta Ellis, and Hedo Turkoglu are overrated. However, some of those listed clearly don't deserve it, like Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, and Rajon Rondo, and the author is just trying to be controversial. And who in the hell overrates Trevor Ariza or LaMarcus Aldridge besides their own teams? I think most everyone recognizes the limitations those players have. Personally, I have a soft spot for Jennings. Yes, he has a crappy jumper and a bad assist-to-turnover ratio, but he's an exciting player on a team that desperately needs one.

[lilfishi22]

I'm not saying Stoudemire is better than Bosh, what I am saying is that the gulf is not as wide as some people make it out to be. Defense? We got it. Rebounding? We're on the same page. Iso? Okay, slight edge to Bosh. Everything else gets closer to a wash than clearly standing in one or the others favor

I didn't say Bosh was better than Stoudemire either. All I'm saying is that the NBA game is not just about playing one end of the court. Bosh plays defense and grabs rebounds whereas Stoudemire does not and people automatically give Stoudemire the crown because he's "a beast in the paint." I'm not arguing against that, but Bosh is a comparable scorer even though he's not as god in the paint as Amare. People see Amare with the thunderous dunks and an ESPN highlights and think he's a whole lot better than Bosh just because Bosh doesn't make the highlights as much, but these are the same people who don't look at stats at all and even if they do, they only look at the PPG.

See, I don't think it works that way. Some players simply play better together. Maybe Bosh would be better next to LeBron, but maybe not. Just because he's better on paper this year doesn't mean he would be better next to player X.

I would tell you that Stoudemire's ability to work well with a star guard would make him more deadly with a Williams or a Paul than would Bosh. I say that with a straight face. Bosh wouldn't be bad with either of those two, but the synergy might not be the same.

Now a Bosh and LeBron combo would be interesting, but currently both gravitate towards iso type situations which kills ball movement. Mo Williams is an undersized SG that plays PG, but LeBron is the real ball handler... so what would be the excuse in CLE for Bosh? He's still not playing with a playmaker like Nash?

I guess what I am getting at is this:

It will be hard to get these two players into similar or identical situations from which to judge them evenly. But, just because Bosh averages more rebounds and plays marginally better defense doesn't make him a lock to win a championship with player X.

I was talking in terms of fit. I think if you switched out Jamison with Bosh, he would put up better numbers and make Cleveland a better team. A guy who can get off his own shot and not need Lebron to spoon feed them is what Cleveland needed. Sometimes when I watch them play, I see a lot of similarities between the Cavs and the Suns. If Lebron is not making plays, their team goes stagnant because their PG is a scorer, just like if Nash is not making plays, our offense goes stagnant. Put Bosh into the equation and you get a guy who doesn't need a Nash or a Lebron to set up the play. This was one of the reasons why they got Shaq from us, not only just to deal with Dwight but also to add a guy who can score the ball when you dump it into him. I don't think Amare is the kind of player where you can consistently give him the ball and ask him to score, whereas Bosh can.

I think Lebron and Amare is a better combo than Lebron and Bosh but that isn't the issue. Lebron, like Nash, can make a lot of players better, the question is not what Lebron can do for them, but what they can do for the team. But no team is a lock for the championship, all I said was that they are a better team because they get a guy who doesn't need Lebron to do everything. This was the same reason why I thought Jamison was a better fit for the Cavs than Amare.

On a side note:

If I'm New York, I'd rather have LeBron and Stoudemire than LeBron and Bosh. Just saying. Get a defensive & rebound-oriented C to mop up for Stoudemire on the defensive end essentially masking Stoudmire's biggest knock and you'll be glad you chose the guy that can take over the game offensively when LeBron is off.

Lebron and Stoudemire will be cheaper than Lebron and Bosh, also the NY system (Run and Gun) works better with Lebron and Stoudemire. That's all I can say about this super-hypothetical.

[MarJJMar]

Amare is extremely underrated right now.

The way he played the last 2 months he'd be a lock for all-nba first team.

He had a bad first half of the season due to that eye surgery, googles and Frye being the softest center in the worst starting next to him.

But he is back now and he doesn't even get any consideration as the best PF in the league anymore, when clearly at this level he is without question ahead of Bosh.

[lilfishi22]

Exactly how is Amare clearly ahead of Bosh? MarJJmar, you talk like Amare has never been underrated before yet fails to live up to expectations. If he's so underrated how is itt that a player of his caliber and with his physical tools is unable to do what everyone, including experts, have wanted to see from him for years, grab double digit rebounds consistently. If a guy like Amare can't even do what Bosh does on a nightly basis, put up a consistent 24/11, how could he be underrated when that is what's expected of him? Once again, Exactly how is Amare clearly ahead of Bosh? The only reason Bosh isn't getting more recognition is because he plays on a horrible team in the East and he doesn't make the highlights as much as Amare, but outside of that, he's at the very least, as good as Amare.

Take off your homer glasses MarJJmar, just because Amare has been beasting the past two months, doesn't mean he's on a whole different level to Bosh, who's been doing it for the past two seasons.