UFC 87

[CPT]

I lost respect for Kongo. I know Lesnar isn't the most modest fighter but he's used to the acting and hype of fighting with his time in the WWE. But Kongo's demeanour after his match was terrible. I hope these two do indeed matchup, and you can bet I'll be rooting for Brock.

Yeah, seriously.

Kongo is awful, and delusional to boot. Who is he kidding, saying he wants the "teetle" because he beat Dan Evensen in a friggin prelim fight.

That double chest fist pump thing is annoying as hell too.

I hope they feed him to Lesnar.

[Chach]

Lesnar is friggin garbage. Lay and pray is so boring.

He wasn't in Herring's guard for a second.

That fight may have gotten a little redundant near the end, but I'm super stoked imagining how far Lesnar can go and the match-ups that can be. I loved it!

That doesn't change the fact that it was a boring as hell fight. One good punch and then Lesnar was laying down some hammers into Herring's grill while he was on the ground. But Lesnar is just so heavier and stronger than anyone that I don't really see how anyone can beat him. Which would be fine if he had the skills to put on an entertaining fight but I am not one who goes ga-ga over sheer physical dominance. IF, and it's a big if, Lesnar can develop his game to make the fights exciting then OK, count me in. But until then, I'm just going to be disappointed by crappy fights. mahalo
~Chach~

[CPT]

Lesnar is friggin garbage. Lay and pray is so boring.

He wasn't in Herring's guard for a second.

That fight may have gotten a little redundant near the end, but I'm super stoked imagining how far Lesnar can go and the match-ups that can be. I loved it!

That doesn't change the fact that it was a boring as hell fight. One good punch and then Lesnar was laying down some hammers into Herring's grill while he was on the ground. But Lesnar is just so heavier and stronger than anyone that I don't really see how anyone can beat him. Which would be fine if he had the skills to put on an entertaining fight but I am not one who goes ga-ga over sheer physical dominance. IF, and it's a big if, Lesnar can develop his game to make the fights exciting then OK, count me in. But until then, I'm just going to be disappointed by crappy fights. mahalo
~Chach~

I can't tell you to be excited if you're not, but that was not a boring fight.

I didn't see it as Lesnar just waiting for a decision until maybe the end of the third round. He was throwing shots that looked like they really could have ended the fight. He also knew he couldn't get too aggressive and sloppy because of what happened to him in his last fight.

If it was a boring fight, it's because Herring did nothing but turtle.

I'd also like to know what you're expecting out of Lesnar. K-1 level standup? Submission attempts straight out of ADCC? The guy is a wrestler, and he wrestled. He didn't lay and pray, he took what his opponent gave him and did serious damage. I just don't really see what the problem is, and neither do most people, who were impressed with Lesnar's performance.

[K1NG]

If anyone's to blame for you finding it "boring", it's Heath Herring.

[SpReEfOrAlL]

The Lesnar fight was boring?? Come on. . .That was awsome, i can't wait to see when he develops more of a ground and pound game. To be honest, i see him turning into a sprawler and brawler. I hope he does that, it makes the most sense. Little to know threat to getting subbed, and he has the power and speed to be a damn good striker.

Kenny straight embarrassed Huerta. I know Roger hung in there, but he did next to nothing to Kenny. Kenny made him look like an amateur. I enjoyed that. Quite a bit. I hope Roger's days of being coddled is over. I wanna see him and Joe Daddy next. He should be fighting the best, not be hand fed.

GSP did what i expected.

I still think BJ beats GSP in a rematch. If BJ comes in shape, and with the right mindset, I think he beats anyone are LW or WW. BJ barely trained for their last fight. He wont be doing that again.

[Headliner]

Everything Lesner let loose looked like it could kill someone.
His punches are like a mallet, he's knees to the ribs/back looked he was throwing a tree trunk at HH.
He is a monster. By the time he's 32 he should be much more developed and comfortable.

One of the biggest flaws in his game was that he didn't seem to know how to flatten out his man when he had his back. He has to learn that because he should have ended that fight in the first.

[Cammo101]

I saw the UFC PPV at a packed Hooters and the Lesner fight had that place louder than I had heard it for any fight since I have been going there (6 months or so) except the Forest/Rampage fight.

Lesner was doing things that looked like they should be illegal. That fight was awesome, though I agree he needs to learn to finish on the ground. That guy is going to be the one to eventually beat Fedor.

[Chach]

I'm sorry, I don't get excited by a guy physically dominating a guy with a complete lack of skill. He "took" Herrings back a few times, where's the rear naked choke? He's so strong he doesn't even need to get his whole arm in there, his forearm is massive enough that if he grabbed his wrist, good night Irene. He's strong enough to have been able to roll Herring onto his back when he turtled up on his side. Then Lesnar could have mounted him and bashed his head in. YEAH! Then I would have gotten excited. I see potential but I see one giant problem.

Herring is a big friggin dude. And Lesnar was simply too big and powerful and quick for Herring to do anything with. Who is going to match up with Lesnar? Mark Hunt? Herring turtled up because there was nothing he really could do and I see this happening in a lot of Lesnar's future fights. It's going to be a tape stuck on repeat except with a different face. He has all the potential in the world but laying on a dude and throwing in hammer fists for 15 minutes doesn't appeal to me and I have no idea how someone is going to remedy that situation. Semmy Schlit fought Fedor awhile back in PRIDE and Semmy is not only a world class kickboxer but the dude is almost seven feet tall. And Fedor beat him pretty handily even though Semmy had a foot advantage on him. I would have enjoyed that fight a lot less if Schilt used his extra mass to immoblize Fedor and just lay punches into them. Guess it's just my personal taste. mahalo
~Chach~

[cowboyronnie]

I'm sorry, I don't get excited by a guy physically dominating a guy with a complete lack of skill.

Cos he just "lay" on him, right?

Back to baseball.

[Susan]

Nog would have beat him on the ground. Mir was just a terrible first fight for him.

But what I don't really like about Lesnar is the fact that he's shown some pretty sick power on his feet but he really didn't throw at all.

[K1NG]

I saw the UFC PPV at a packed Hooters and the Lesner fight had that place louder than I had heard it for any fight since I have been going there (6 months or so) except the Forest/Rampage fight.

Lesner was doing things that looked like they should be illegal. That fight was awesome, though I agree he needs to learn to finish on the ground. That guy is going to be the one to eventually beat Fedor.

Now you're getting carried away. Fedor could beat Lesnar and Herring at the same time. And Fedor technically already has a loss in his record.

[CPT]

I saw the UFC PPV at a packed Hooters and the Lesner fight had that place louder than I had heard it for any fight since I have been going there (6 months or so) except the Forest/Rampage fight.

Lesner was doing things that looked like they should be illegal. That fight was awesome, though I agree he needs to learn to finish on the ground. That guy is going to be the one to eventually beat Fedor.

Now you're getting carried away. Fedor could beat Lesnar and Herring at the same time. And Fedor technically already has a loss in his record.

Fedor right now would ruin Brock Lesnar's life.

However, if he truly improves his overall MMA game, he has physical gifts that not many fighters at HW have, and they give him more of a chance against Fedor than fighters who may be better than he is. I don't know if that makes sense. Here's an example. I would pick Arlovski to beat Lesnar if they were to fight, but I might give Lesnar a bigger chance to beat Fedor (even right now), just because I don't think Arlovski brings anything Fedor hasn't seen before, while Lesnar does.

[SpReEfOrAlL]

Ive rewatched the Brock fight a couple times. And his potential is just amazing. I seriously think he is the future of the HW division. even at this "older" starting age. The guy dominated one of the worlds most experienced and best fighters. And he didn't lay and pray. he beat him the **** up. Herring's face was jacked up. If he sticks with this sport, its his for the taking.

[Chach]

He does have a ton of potential but I s

[Chach]

He does have a ton of potential but I still found it boring. Part of the boringness was Herring's complete either lack of a game plan or failure to execute it. The few times he got to his feet, especially in the third round but in the second as well, he threw MAYBE a punch and then when into the clinch where it was obvious that Lesnar was strong enough to wrestle him to the ground. So he definitely didn't do his part in making it an exciting fight. And if Lesner develops more of a ground game other than solely wrestling then maybe I will be excited but I just see the rest of his fights going the same way, Lesnar wrestles him to the ground and pounds on him for 15 minutes. This is why I'm not getting too excited until I see a more diverse game from Lesnar. mahalo
~Chach~