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Re: Diego out, Koscheck in 

Post#21 » by Cammo101 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:24 pm

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Cammo101 wrote:Diego is in the mix for sure, but until he gets a marquee win over a top 10 WW, he is meerly a guy bumping around the 8 to 10 range. So far he is 0-2 in big fights against top 5 WW's. I was very interested to see what he could do against Alves though.

Sanchez reminds me a lot of Karo when he was young. A guy with a ton of talent who was always close but never quite made it over the hump because of untimely losses and injuries.


First, Karo was definitely top 10, if not top 5 before Diego beat him.

I'd like to see your list of 8 guys that should be ranked higher than Diego at this point.

I know Jake Shields is going to be one of them, which I guess you can argue, though I'm not sure who his big win is against (Sakurai like 6 years ago? Okami at MW?).

I have a feeling you are going to put Carlos Condit ahead of him, which is completely ridiculous.

Who else is there? Serra? Hughes?


1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Jake Shields
5. Thiago Alves
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Matt Serra
8. Carlos Condit
9. Matt Hughes
10. Karo Parisyan

I wasn't saying he will never move up or down, just that he seems to be one of those guys who never breaks through into the truly elite. These are my top 10, which I update on my site pretty much whenever something big happens.


That's a reasonable list, but it just makes me wonder why you say things like Diego should be 8 to 10 when you have him ranked 6, and that he needs a win against a top 10 WW, when he's beaten Karo, who you have ranked in your top 10.[/quote]

I said, like Karo, that Diego runs the risk of being a guy always hovering in the 8-10 range. Like Karo, he may move up and down a bit, but likely never into that Elite range. I said he needed a win against an elite level guy, a top 5 type guy like GSP, Kos, Alves, or Fitch. I would actually love to see a Diego vs. Condit fight whenever the UFC is smart enough to get Condit out of the WEC. Or Shields when the UFC inevitable signs him.

So far Diego has looked very good against lesser guys and very average against the top tier. He has lost to Kos and Fitch and now bowed out of a fight with Alves. I have nothing against Diego, in fact, I like watching him fight. I just think that the UFC chose him as the next great superstar after his run on TUF, and so they hype him up even when there are other guys doing more and getting less run. Joe Rogan will make us believe Diego is the greatest fighter ever, even if it takes all night.
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Re: Diego out, Koscheck in 

Post#22 » by Headliner » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:47 pm

Predictions for the card?
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Re: Diego out, Koscheck in 

Post#23 » by Cammo101 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:48 am

Headliner wrote:Predictions for the card?


Silva
Koscheck (I'm so torn here)
Maynard
Werdum
Sherk
Leites
Fisher
Miller
Franca
Burkman (Though if he's weak from cutting the weight, Sell could win here)
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Re: Diego out, Koscheck in 

Post#24 » by SpReEfOrAlL » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:56 pm

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)

* Middleweight champ Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote
* Thiago Alves vs. Josh Koscheck
* Fabricio Werdum vs. Junior dos Santos
* Tyson Griffin vs. Sean Sherk (I REALLY hope I am wrong)
* Rich Clementi vs. Gray Maynard

PRELIMINARY CARD (UN-TELEVISED)

* Thales Leites vs. Drew McFedries
* Spencer Fisher vs. Shannon Gugerty
* Matt Horwich vs. Dan Miller
* Marcus Aurelio vs. Hermes Franca
* Josh Burkman vs. Pete Sell
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Re: Diego out, Koscheck in 

Post#25 » by CPT » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:26 pm

They should have tossed a few minutes to Griffin vs. Sherk on the UFC 90 countdown show. It's a huge matchup in the LW division....pretty comparable to Alves vs. Koscheck actually, although it doesn't look like it will be as good a fight.

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