Cammo's MMA Rankings

[Cammo101]

4/5/09


Heavyweight (265 lbs.)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Josh Barnett
3. Andrei Arlovski
4. Frank Mir
5. Brock Lesnar
6. Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira
7. Randy Couture
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Alistair Overeem
10. Shane Carwin
11. Fabricio Werdum
12. Ben Rothwell
13. Gabriel Gonzaga
14. Jeff Monson
15. Junior dos Santos
16. Mirko Cro Cop
17. Paul Buentello
18. Aleksander Emelianenko
19. Cheick Kongo
20. Roy Nelson


Light Heavyweight (205 lbs.)

1. Rashad Evans
2. Quentin Jackson
3. Forrest Griffin
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Dan Henderson
6. Rich Franklin
7. Chuck Liddell
8. Mauricio Rua
9. Thiago Silva
10. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
11. Wanderlei Silva
12. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
13. Keith Jardine
14. Tito Ortiz
15. Luis Cane
16. Matt Hamill
17. Vladimir Matyushenko
18. Jon Jones
19. Brandon Vera
20. Emanuel Newton


Middleweight (185 lbs.)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Robbie Lawler
5. Yushin Okami
6. Nate Marquart
7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Vitor Belfort
9. Jorge Santiago
10. Michael Bisping
11. Thales Leites
12. Yoshihiro Akiyama
13. Demian Maia
14. Matt Lindland
15. Chael Sonnen
16. Paulo Filho
17. Cung Le
18. Ricardo Almeida
19. Patrick Cote
20. Alan Belcher


Welterweight (170 lbs.)

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Thiago Alves
3. Jon Fitch
4. Jake Shields
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Josh Koscheck
7. Matt Serra
8. Matt Hughes
9. Mike Swick
10. Carlos Condit
11. Karo Parisyan
12. Marcus Davis
13. Martin Kampmann
14. Anthony Johnson
15. Jay Hieron
16. Frank Trigg
17. Hayato Sakurai
18. Dan Hardy
19. Nick Diaz
20. Dustin Hazelett


Lightweight (155 lbs.)

1. BJ Penn
2. Kenny Florian
3. Sean Sherk
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Joachim Hansen
7. Josh Thomson
8. JZ Cavalcante
9. Tatsuya Kawajiri
10. Satoru Kitaoka
11. Tyson Griffin
12. Mitsuhiro Ishida
13. Frank Edgar
14. Takanori Gomi
15. Eiji Mitsuoka
16. Gilbert Melendez
17. Joe Stevenson
18. Vitor Ribeiro
19. Caol Uno
20. Gray Maynard


Featherweight (145 lbs.)

1. Mike Thomas Brown
2. Urijah Faber
3. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Wagnney Fabiano
6. Takeshi Inoue
7. Akitoshi Tamura
8. Jose Aldo
9. Leonard Garcia
10. Masakazu Imanari
11. Yuji Hoshino
12. Dokonjonosuke Mishima
13. Josh Grispi
14. Jens Pulver
15. Rafael Assuncao
16. Mark Hominick
17. Wilson Reis
18. Abel Cullum
19. Cub Swanson
20. Marlon Sandro


Bantamweight (135 lbs.)

1. Miguel Angel Torres
2. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
3. Brian Bowles
4. Masakatsu Ueda
5. Takeya Mizugaki
6. Koetsu Okazaki
7. Joseph Benavidez
8. Manny Tapia
9. Yoshiro Maeda
10. Atsushi Yamamoto
11. Rani Yahya
12. Dominic Cruz
13. Will Ribeiro
14. Noah Thomas
15. Jeff Curran
16. Chase Beebe
17. Eduardo Dantas
18. Damacio Page
19. Antonio Banuelos
20. Charlie Valencia


Women (All weights)

1. Tara Larosa
2. Megumi Fujii
3. Gina Carano
4. Yuka Tsuji
5. Takayo Hashi
6. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos
7. Ana Michelle Tavares
8. Miku Matsumoto
9. Rosi Sexton
10. Kelly Kobold


Pound for Pound

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Anderson Silva
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Miguel Angel Torres
5. Rashad Evans
6. BJ Penn
7. Dan Henderson
8. Mike Thomas Brown
9. Urijah Faber
10. Thiago Alves
11. Kenny Florian
12. Jon Fitch
13. Rich Franklin
14. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
15. Quentin Jackson
16. Forrest Griffin
17. Jake Shields
18. Josh Barnett
19. Lyoto Machida
20. Hatsu Hioki



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[Nemesis21]

4/5/09


Heavyweight (265 lbs.)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Josh Barnett
3. Andrei Arlovski
4. Frank Mir
5. Brock Lesnar
6. Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira
7. Randy Couture
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Alistair Overeem
10. Shane Carwin
11. Fabricio Werdum
12. Ben Rothwell
13. Gabriel Gonzaga
14. Jeff Monson
15. Junior dos Santos
16. Mirko Cro Cop
17. Paul Buentello
18. Aleksander Emelianenko
19. Cheick Kongo
20. Roy Nelson


Light Heavyweight (205 lbs.)

1. Rashad Evans
2. Quentin Jackson
3. Forrest Griffin
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Dan Henderson
6. Rich Franklin
7. Chuck Liddell
8. Mauricio Rua
9. Thiago Silva
10. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
11. Wanderlei Silva
12. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
13. Keith Jardine
14. Tito Ortiz
15. Luis Cane
16. Matt Hamill
17. Vladimir Matyushenko
18. Jon Jones
19. Brandon Vera
20. Emanuel Newton


Middleweight (185 lbs.)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Robbie Lawler
5. Yushin Okami
6. Nate Marquart
7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Vitor Belfort
9. Jorge Santiago
10. Michael Bisping
11. Thales Leites
12. Yoshihiro Akiyama
13. Demian Maia
14. Matt Lindland
15. Chael Sonnen
16. Paulo Filho
17. Cung Le
18. Ricardo Almeida
19. Patrick Cote
20. Alan Belcher


Welterweight (170 lbs.)

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Thiago Alves
3. Jon Fitch
4. Jake Shields
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Josh Koscheck
7. Matt Serra
8. Matt Hughes
9. Mike Swick
10. Carlos Condit
11. Karo Parisyan
12. Marcus Davis
13. Martin Kampmann
14. Anthony Johnson
15. Jay Hieron
16. Frank Trigg
17. Hayato Sakurai
18. Dan Hardy
19. Nick Diaz
20. Dustin Hazelett


Lightweight (155 lbs.)

1. BJ Penn
2. Kenny Florian
3. Sean Sherk
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Joachim Hansen
7. Josh Thomson
8. JZ Cavalcante
9. Tatsuya Kawajiri
10. Satoru Kitaoka
11. Tyson Griffin
12. Mitsuhiro Ishida
13. Frank Edgar
14. Takanori Gomi
15. Eiji Mitsuoka
16. Gilbert Melendez
17. Joe Stevenson
18. Vitor Ribeiro
19. Caol Uno
20. Gray Maynard


Featherweight (145 lbs.)

1. Mike Thomas Brown
2. Urijah Faber
3. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Wagnney Fabiano
6. Takeshi Inoue
7. Akitoshi Tamura
8. Jose Aldo
9. Leonard Garcia
10. Masakazu Imanari
11. Yuji Hoshino
12. Dokonjonosuke Mishima
13. Josh Grispi
14. Jens Pulver
15. Rafael Assuncao
16. Mark Hominick
17. Wilson Reis
18. Abel Cullum
19. Cub Swanson
20. Marlon Sandro


Bantamweight (135 lbs.)

1. Miguel Angel Torres
2. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
3. Brian Bowles
4. Masakatsu Ueda
5. Takeya Mizugaki
6. Koetsu Okazaki
7. Joseph Benavidez
8. Manny Tapia
9. Yoshiro Maeda
10. Atsushi Yamamoto
11. Rani Yahya
12. Dominic Cruz
13. Will Ribeiro
14. Noah Thomas
15. Jeff Curran
16. Chase Beebe
17. Eduardo Dantas
18. Damacio Page
19. Antonio Banuelos
20. Charlie Valencia


Women (All weights)

1. Tara Larosa
2. Megumi Fujii
3. Gina Carano
4. Yuka Tsuji
5. Takayo Hashi
6. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos
7. Ana Michelle Tavares
8. Miku Matsumoto
9. Rosi Sexton
10. Kelly Kobold


Pound for Pound

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Anderson Silva
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Miguel Angel Torres
5. Rashad Evans
6. BJ Penn
7. Dan Henderson
8. Mike Thomas Brown
9. Urijah Faber
10. Thiago Alves
11. Kenny Florian
12. Jon Fitch
13. Rich Franklin
14. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
15. Quentin Jackson
16. Forrest Griffin
17. Jake Shields
18. Josh Barnett
19. Lyoto Machida
20. Hatsu Hioki



http://www.nbadraftguru.blogspot.com

So I see you have Forrest third in his weight class. I've heard Forrest will fight Sobaral(sp). IMO if Rashad defends his title vs Machida, and Forrest beats Sobaral, Forrest should get a rematch with Rashad.

[Nemesis21]

also Diego dropped from 170 to 155

[CPT]

Where the F did you hear that? Sobral isn't even in the UFC.

Forrest is fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 101 or 102.

Babalu is fighting Feijao on the next Strikeforce event...June 6 I think.

....

Pretty good rankings Cammo. Can't say I have much of a problem with any guy's ranking, except maybe Vitor Belfort (too high) and Gray Maynard (too low). Maybe have Junior Dos Santos higher as well. Everyone else is within a few spots of where I'd put them if I took the time to do this kind of thing.

You should make some more controversial picks, reasonable and accurate rankings give us nothing to talk about, lol.

[El Hardee]

Babalu was kicked out the UFC a while ago, why would dana bring him backed to already stacked division, I am going to have to give to a big FAIL for that one. Cammo pretty nice list but how could leave Cain Velazquez off the HW's?

[Cammo101]

I am a big Cain guy, but until he beats someone with a pulse, I can't rank him in the top 20. I full expect him to be in the top 10 sooner than later though.

[El Hardee]

True Cain has not been tested, but he has been dominant in all his fights delivering some brutal beatings, I also thought Kongo should have been a little higher aswell. Thales, Maia should both be rated higher than Vitor IMO. Melendez should be top 10 LW easily, you have Aldo rated correctly but that dude is a monster I believe he is the baddest dude on our brothers at Nova Uniao and will be champ real soon. I also would have put Maeda ahead of Tapia. Nice list though. These are just my thoughts.

[Nemesis21]

my bad, from some stupid ultimate fight website.

Still if Forrest beats Thiago, and Rasahd beats Lyoto, Forrest should get a rematch with Rashad.



BTW CPT you on your period? You don't have to be an a**hole!

[cowboyronnie]

Shields isn't top 20 WW, nevermind 4th

Cung Le is a stud

Alan Belcher sucks

[CPT]

Shields isn't top 20 WW, nevermind 4th

Cung Le is a stud

Alan Belcher sucks

That's a bold statement. I agree that he's a bit overrated, but I think he'd ruin a lot of the guys from 10-20.

[Cammo101]

Shields isn't top 20 WW, nevermind 4th

Cung Le is a stud

Alan Belcher sucks

So you are saying the 22-4 fighter with wins over Carlos Condit, Yushin Okami, and Hayato Sakurai who has not lost since December of 2004 is not top 20? That is sig worthy.

Cung Le is a stud, but he also has few fights and even fewer against legit competition. If he gets back in the cage, he can move up.

[Cammo101]

Updated Post UFC 97


Heavyweight (265 lbs.)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Josh Barnett
3. Andrei Arlovski
4. Frank Mir
5. Brock Lesnar
6. Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira
7. Randy Couture
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Alistair Overeem
10. Shane Carwin
11. Fabricio Werdum
12. Ben Rothwell
13. Gabriel Gonzaga
14. Jeff Monson
15. Cheick Kongo
16. Junior dos Santos
17. Mirko Cro Cop
18. Paul Buentello
19. Aleksander Emelianenko
20. Roy Nelson


Light Heavyweight (205 lbs.)

1. Rashad Evans
2. Quentin Jackson
3. Forrest Griffin
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Dan Henderson
6. Mauricio Rua
7. Rich Franklin
8. Thiago Silva
9. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
11. Keith Jardine
12. Luis Cane
13. Chuck Liddell
14. Wanderlei Silva
15. Tito Ortiz
16. Matt Hamill
17. Vladimir Matyushenko
18. Jon Jones
19. Brandon Vera
20. Emanuel Newton


Middleweight (185 lbs.)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Robbie Lawler
5. Yushin Okami
6. Nate Marquart
7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Vitor Belfort
9. Jorge Santiago
10. Michael Bisping
11. Yoshihiro Akiyama
12. Demian Maia
13. Matt Lindland
14. Thales Leites
15. Chael Sonnen
16. Paulo Filho
17. Cung Le
18. Ricardo Almeida
19. Patrick Cote
20. Alan Belcher


Welterweight (170 lbs.)

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Thiago Alves
3. Jon Fitch
4. Jake Shields
5. Josh Koscheck
6. Matt Serra
7. Matt Hughes
8. Mike Swick
9. Carlos Condit
10. Karo Parisyan
11. Marcus Davis
12. Martin Kampmann
13. Anthony Johnson
14. Nick Diaz
15. Jay Hieron
16. Frank Trigg
17. Hayato Sakurai
18. Dan Hardy
19. Paulo Thiago
20. Dustin Hazelett


Lightweight (155 lbs.)

1. BJ Penn
2. Kenny Florian
3. Sean Sherk
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Joachim Hansen
7. Josh Thomson
8. JZ Cavalcante
9. Tatsuya Kawajiri
10. Satoru Kitaoka
11. Tyson Griffin
12. Mitsuhiro Ishida
13. Frank Edgar
14. Gilbert Melendez
15. Diego Sanchez
16. Takanori Gomi
17. Eiji Mitsuoka
18. Vitor Ribeiro
19. Joe Stevenson
20. Gray Maynard


Featherweight (145 lbs.)

1. Mike Thomas Brown
2. Urijah Faber
3. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Wagnney Fabiano
6. Takeshi Inoue
7. Akitoshi Tamura
8. Jose Aldo
9. Leonard Garcia
10. Masakazu Imanari
11. Yuji Hoshino
12. Dokonjonosuke Mishima
13. Josh Grispi
14. Jens Pulver
15. Rafael Assuncao
16. Mark Hominick
17. Wilson Reis
18. Abel Cullum
19. Cub Swanson
20. Marlon Sandro


Bantamweight (135 lbs.)

1. Miguel Angel Torres
2. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
3. Brian Bowles
4. Masakatsu Ueda
5. Takeya Mizugaki
6. Koetsu Okazaki
7. Joseph Benavidez
8. Manny Tapia
9. Yoshiro Maeda
10. Atsushi Yamamoto
11. Rani Yahya
12. Dominic Cruz
13. Will Ribeiro
14. Noah Thomas
15. Jeff Curran
16. Chase Beebe
17. Eduardo Dantas
18. Damacio Page
19. Antonio Banuelos
20. Charlie Valencia


Women (All weights)

1. Tara Larosa
2. Megumi Fujii
3. Gina Carano
4. Yuka Tsuji
5. Takayo Hashi
6. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos
7. Ana Michelle Tavares
8. Miku Matsumoto
9. Rosi Sexton
10. Kelly Kobold


Pound for Pound

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Anderson Silva
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Miguel Angel Torres
5. Rashad Evans
6. BJ Penn
7. Dan Henderson
8. Mike Thomas Brown
9. Urijah Faber
10. Thiago Alves
11. Kenny Florian
12. Jon Fitch
13. Rich Franklin
14. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
15. Quentin Jackson
16. Forrest Griffin
17. Jake Shields
18. Josh Barnett
19. Lyoto Machida
20. Hatsu Hioki

[kdawg32086]

Shields isn't top 20 WW, nevermind 4th

Cung Le is a stud

Alan Belcher sucks

So you are saying the 22-4 fighter with wins over Carlos Condit, Yushin Okami, and Hayato Sakurai who has not lost since December of 2004 is not top 20? That is sig worthy.

In that winning streak, Shields has beaten so many "class A" fighters, right? I mean, I can understand why he's on your list but he shouldn't be #4. The truth is, Shields hasn't beaten even a B level fighter since the Condit fight in April 2006 and I think the current version of Condit might beat him. Martin Kampmann and Josh Koscheck can both make a case for being ahead of him. And even Matt Hughes too, since his recent losses were to the #1 and 2 guys in your rankings. At this point, the level of competition that Shields has been facing is on par with the talent level of the guys being fed to Jay Hieron.

[Cammo101]

Shields isn't top 20 WW, nevermind 4th

Cung Le is a stud

Alan Belcher sucks

So you are saying the 22-4 fighter with wins over Carlos Condit, Yushin Okami, and Hayato Sakurai who has not lost since December of 2004 is not top 20? That is sig worthy.

In that winning streak, Shields has beaten so many "class A" fighters, right? I mean, I can understand why he's on your list but he shouldn't be #4. The truth is, Shields hasn't beaten even a B level fighter since the Condit fight in April 2006 and I think the current version of Condit might beat him. Martin Kampmann and Josh Koscheck can both make a case for being ahead of him. And even Matt Hughes too, since his recent losses were to the #1 and 2 guys in your rankings. At this point, the level of competition that Shields has been facing is on par with the talent level of the guys being fed to Jay Hieron.

He was not always that high, but look at that division, a bunch of guys are falling around him. Shields will have the ultimate say, because he will be tested in Strikeforce, starting with a very tough fight against Robbie Lawler.

[cowboyronnie]

Which significant opponent has he finished? No one, ever. Not even close. You can't be number 17 p4p if you've never had an emphatic win.

His striking is mediocre and he wins on the ground strictly because of eating-up rounds down there, relying on slowly advancing position and maintaining dom position.

[Cammo101]

Which significant opponent has he finished? No one, ever. Not even close. You can't be number 17 p4p if you've never had an emphatic win.

His striking is mediocre and he wins on the ground strictly because of eating-up rounds down there, relying on slowly advancing position and maintaining dom position.

A win is a win, I am not judging who wins more awesome. The fact of the matter is Shields has not lost in 3 years, in that time he has beaten 3 very good opponents. I am not a huge Jake Shields fan or anything, but his record speaks for itself regardless of how boring his fights are. The Robbie Lawler fight will tell a lot about Shields.

[cowboyronnie]

I'm not criticizing him because he's boring. He's got only a few decent wins and they were unremarkable, that's what I'm saying.

A win is not a win, by any means. That's dumb. Who are you going to pick in a future fight - the guy with devastating Ws or the one riding-out decisioned Ws from half-guard?

[Cammo101]

I'm not criticizing him because he's boring. He's got only a few decent wins and they were unremarkable, that's what I'm saying.

A win is not a win, by any means. That's dumb. Who are you going to pick in a future fight - the guy with devastating Ws or the one riding-out decisioned Ws from half-guard?

Find me a guy devastating people for 3 years without losing and I will pick him to beat Shields. I find him pretty boring, but there are only maybe 5 or 6 guys I would feel comfortable picking to beat Shields.

[cowboyronnie]

I'm not criticizing him because he's boring. He's got only a few decent wins and they were unremarkable, that's what I'm saying.

A win is not a win, by any means. That's dumb. Who are you going to pick in a future fight - the guy with devastating Ws or the one riding-out decisioned Ws from half-guard?

Find me a guy devastating people for 3 years without losing and I will pick him to beat Shields. I find him pretty boring, but there are only maybe 5 or 6 guys I would feel comfortable picking to beat Shields.

How about one emphatic? ONE, AGAINST A GOOD OPPONENT.

You don't need to win every fight emphatically for 3 years. That's not what I said. Shut it.

[Cammo101]

I'm not criticizing him because he's boring. He's got only a few decent wins and they were unremarkable, that's what I'm saying.

A win is not a win, by any means. That's dumb. Who are you going to pick in a future fight - the guy with devastating Ws or the one riding-out decisioned Ws from half-guard?

Find me a guy devastating people for 3 years without losing and I will pick him to beat Shields. I find him pretty boring, but there are only maybe 5 or 6 guys I would feel comfortable picking to beat Shields.

How about one emphatic? ONE, AGAINST A GOOD OPPONENT.

You don't need to win every fight emphatically for 3 years. That's not what I said. Shut it.

Ok, then who exactly should be ahead of Shields? You can make a case for Koscheck, even if he has dropped 2 in a row. After him though, there is a huge drop off in the WW division.

BTW, the last 7 fights Shields has had all ended with stoppages and never got to the 3rd round. That includes wins over a very tough WW in Nick Thompson, a solid UFC vets in Renato Verissimo and a big time striker in Paul Daley. Those 3 guys are UFC caliber WW's and all 3 got STOPPED by Jake Shields.