A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205?

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A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#1 » by CPT » Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:43 pm

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That Silva could move up a weight class and not just win, but destroy with power, was a game-changing and perhaps UFC-altering moment. That’s what Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, wanted to discuss with White.

With his arm wrapped around White’s shoulder, Soares leaned in and delivered a proposition. “Spider” Silva would move permanently to light heavyweight, even if it meant the unorthodox move of giving up his middleweight belt.

“I can do that,” White smiled, a bit stunned at the offer. “I like that. We can do that.”

Soares smiled and shook White’s hand. Silva had been accosted by a fan by then and couldn’t hear White, but it was presumably the news he was seeking. The man has such outrageous confidence in his abilities he’s willing to potentially toss away a championship he’s owned for almost three years to take a challenge outside his comfort zone.

“I’d let him,” White said later, sitting in his quiet dressing room. “We’d put [the middleweight title] up for grabs.”

The hour was late and everyone’s excitement was still high. Perhaps plans and goals change by morning, so White didn’t know what to say officially. This was still just hurried talk. He knew this much though, as a promoter there are more blockbuster fights for Silva at 205 than 185, where he’s beaten everyone of note.

Silva’s next title defense was supposed to be against Dan Henderson, who Silva savagely choked out in March 2008.

“Who knows,” White said, wheels already spinning. “We’ll see what happens. In the talks I’ve had with Anderson, he wants to take on the best in the world. He’s the most talented fighter in the world, the best pound for pound fighter and it’s a joke to say anyone else is. And he wants to continue to prove [it].”

White thought for a moment.

“He would jump in that mix [at the top of the light heavyweight division],” White said. “You’ve got Rashad [Evans], you’ve got Rampage [Jackson], [Lyoto] Machida is the champion. And Tito [Ortiz] is in the mix now.”

If Silva did vacate the middleweight title to move up full time, the ironic thing is that he claims it wouldn’t be to pursue the light heavyweight belt. At least as long as it was held by Machida, a fellow Brazilian and training partner.

“Lyoto is my friend, he is my brother and there is no way that fight will ever happen,” Silva said.

White, coveting a clash between two men who are both unbeaten in UFC competition, brushes that talk aside.

“I’ll make it happen,” White said winking his eye. “It’s not even about money. It’s about proving you’re the best, it’s about securing your place in history. It’s about putting on a super fight that fans want to see.

“I’m all about making big fights that fans want to see.”


Interesting.

He wouldn't be chasing the belt unless Machida loses it, but he could still be the Shogun to Machida's Wanderlei in that sense.

Another angle is that this is a way to get out of the champion's clause in his contract. Then he could have his few more fights and go on to box RJJ like he wants. Gotta think the UFC is too on top of things to just let that happen though.

After last night, I would like to see him stay at 205. Let Henderson fight the winner of Maia/Marquardt for the MW title.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#2 » by CapeCrusader » Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:50 am

I think they should put Anderson full time. It would create more intersting fights for the division. Plus if it happens I could see Franklin dropping back down to middleweight and taking a crack at the belt again.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#3 » by SpReEfOrAlL » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:05 am

I love the idea. .. But man. I wanted to see him fight Wandy at 185. BAD. Along with Belfort.
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Post#4 » by High 5 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:54 am

SpReEfOrAlL wrote:I love the idea. .. But man. I wanted to see him fight Wandy at 185. BAD. Along with Belfort.


He would kill Wanderlei. That would be a horrible fight to set months aside for. There are some fights to would be interesting to see at 185, but nothing really worth the time other than maybe a rematch with Hendo. Even then I'd rather see him against the best at 205.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#5 » by funkatron101 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:57 am

This is Silva's way out to fight RJJ. He doesn't have to retire to get out of his contract now.

I am a fan of Silva, but he doesn't expect Machida to lose, and he refuses to fight him. So what is the point? This screams ulterior motive.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#6 » by RockTHECasbah » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:00 am

LHW is so stacked its funny
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#7 » by 2009NBAChamps » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:18 am

funkatron101 wrote:This is Silva's way out to fight RJJ. He doesn't have to retire to get out of his contract now.

I am a fan of Silva, but he doesn't expect Machida to lose, and he refuses to fight him. So what is the point? This screams ulterior motive.


Interesting theory, but I doubt Dana would let his P4P king walk away on his own terms, unless he were to lose.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#8 » by CPT » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:12 am

I could see them making him keep the MW belt and just making an interim one or something, just to keep him locked into the champion's clause.

I really don't think he'll get out that easily.
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Post#9 » by jTF2 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 am

If he makes this move, 185 becomes the biggest lameduck division in history. Its already plagued by few top level fighters and now their King possibly leaving.
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Post#10 » by Hilltop » Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:01 pm

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SpReEfOrAlL wrote:I love the idea. .. But man. I wanted to see him fight Wandy at 185. BAD. Along with Belfort.


He would kill Wanderlei. That would be a horrible fight to set months aside for. There are some fights to would be interesting to see at 185, but nothing really worth the time other than maybe a rematch with Hendo. Even then I'd rather see him against the best at 205.

Wanderlei Silva will not even come close to giving Anderson a fight. He's nothing but a marquee name to take now, and his best days are clearly over. He's been on the shallow end of the pool ever since Cro Cop knocked him out. It would be a terrible match-up, and I'd hate to see Wanderlei embarrassed in the way that he surely will be.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#11 » by pugilistfan » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:26 pm

SpReEfOrAlL wrote:I love the idea. .. But man. I wanted to see him fight Wandy at 185. BAD. Along with Belfort.


What did Wand and Belfort ever do to you? Why do you hate them so much?
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#12 » by Cammo101 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:27 pm

Anderson Silva would make Wandy look even worse than he made Forrest look. Wandy is so past yhis prime it is sick. The fight would be Belfort if he stayed at 185.
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Post#13 » by pugilistfan » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:35 pm

RockTHECasbah wrote:LHW is so stacked its funny


Not really actually. It now has 2 kings and a bunch of pawns. Those pawns have name recognition though which is why many consider it to be stacked even though its not. Far from it.

Griffin held a strap a year ago, he than outstruck Evans for 2 rounds before losing in the mid 3rd round. Evans than got humiliated against Machida.

Machida and Silva are just in another class right now. If Machida and Silva werent at LHW, the LHW's would continue to do what they were doing before. The belts would be changing hands just as much as it was before. Liddell, Rampage, Griffin then Evans all LHW champions all within a span of 1.5 years.

I actually think middleweight is quite a solid division. Marquardt, Maia, Palhares are good fighters.
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Post#14 » by Daddy Forest » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:30 pm

so no hendo rematch? what da hell?
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#15 » by kdawg32086 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:56 pm

If he vacates the belt, it should be Hendo vs. Okami for the title.
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Post#16 » by Cammo101 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:12 pm

Lightweight is the deepest division in the world by far, both in and out of the UFC.
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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#17 » by Hilltop » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:31 am

kdawg32086 wrote:If he vacates the belt, it should be Hendo vs. Okami for the title.

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Re: A. Silva to vacate 185 belt and compete at 205? 

Post#18 » by Deelow_23 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:32 am

kdawg32086 wrote:If he vacates the belt, it should be Hendo vs. Okami for the title.


Hendo wins by KO.

Cammo101 wrote:Lightweight is the deepest division in the world by far, both in and out of the UFC.


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