UFC 106: Lesnar vs Carwin

[Mike Hunt]

Kos wasn't faking it all imo. There is a still floating around that makes it quite clear. The poke happened before the knee as Anthony was setting Kos up for it i think. You can see his thumb quite clearly in the eye socket.

That's exactly what I was going to say.

As for the other fights: I actually had Ortiz winning the main event fight. There's no doubt that round 3 went to Forrest. But, I don't think there can be any doubt that Ortiz won round 2 either. Round 1 was a lot of ineffective stand-up (admittedly Forrest was a little less ineffective) and a bit of ground and pound by Ortiz. I give the edge to the guy who manages to take a guy down rather than the guy who landed a couple more shots. Not that it's a contraversial decision though. Either way the fight went, the other guy couldn't complain. Neither was good enough to justify it.

I really enjoyed watching Sadollah fight, if only because I watch him on UFC The Aftermath and find him likeable.

I hate watching Kendall Grove fight because he gets muscled around every time I see him. No one gets slammed hard more often than him. That being said, the arm bar into a triangle move was awesome. I don't know if the armbar was a faint or an actual attempt but the surprise switch to a choke was cool anyways.

My favourite fight of the night was Paulo Thiago vs. dude who's name already escapes me. I liked the fight because everytime Thiago looked like he had the fight won, the other guy would pull a miracle out of his ass. When he grabbed that crazy choke from the bottom, I was pulling for him a ton to keep it on there. It would have been a huge upset and in the least likely of fashions too.

[The Flying Gent]

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Quite blurry, yes. But you can definitely see that Johnson's thumb seems to be right in Kos's left eye. Pretty conclusive as i see it.

[High 5]

I thought I saw a poke before the knee. Koscheck had no reason to fake it considering it was an illegal knee. He was going to get time to recover either way.

[Cammo101]

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Quite blurry, yes. But you can definitely see that Johnson's thumb seems to be right in Kos's left eye. Pretty conclusive as i see it.

A lot of haters owe Kos an apology.

[Headliner]

Pretty good card. It somewhat lacked that 'top dog' draw but i really liked the card as a whole.


Anyone want to make predictions for the next fights for these guys?

Kos:
Rumble:
Tito:
Forrest:
Nog:
Cain:
Amir:
Ben:
George S:

And also Hazelett :

Love Hazelett , big fan of his (he's probably my favorite fighter that hasn't reached that star status yet).


The UFC was pissed, and they paid Hazelett both his fight purse AND his win purse.
Very classy by the UFC imo.

Here's an article on the pull out.

Dustin Hazelett “disappointed” by UFC 106 cancellation but ready for quick return

Dann Stupp, MMAjunkie.com Nov 20, 7:14 am EST

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LAS VEGAS First came the phone call from training partner and friend Jorge Gurgel. Then the reporters started calling about the same rumor. And after a quick call to UFC Vice President of Talent Relations Joe Silva, Dustin Hazelett got the official word.

Opponent Karo Parisyan had pulled out of their UFC 106 main card bout.

Hazelett spoke to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today about the situation and why he specifically wanted to fight Parisyan.

UFC president Dana White first posted news of Parisyan's decision to pull out of the fight on Twitter. He stated that Parisyan gave a "laundry list of reasons" and won't be fighting in the UFC ever again. Hazelett also confirmed what White had stated in a follow-up message: that the UFC is paying him both his show and win money, and that he'll be added to another UFC card soon.

Hazelett, returning from a year layoff due to a knee injury, was slated to fight Parisyan on the pay-per-view portion of UFC 106, which takes place this Saturday, Nov. 21, at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

"They said I'll get my show and win money, which is just really cool of them," Hazelett said. "They didn't have to do that, pay the win money too. But they did, and it's great."

Hazelett, who flirted with a top-10 welterweight ranking following impressive wins over Tamdan McCrory and Josh Burkman in 2008, was anxious to get back into the cage. But he was especially excited about fighting Parisyan, who comes from a Judo background.

"He had disrespected me and the art of jiu-jitsu by saying he can eat jiu-jitsu guys for breakfast," Hazelett said. "I was looking forward to standing up and defending my art. It really sucks this happened, especially after all the things he said. And then he just pulls out of the fight."

Hazelett said his corner men, friends and family are either in Vegas or en route and that he "plans to make the most of the weekend" despite the late cancellation of his fight. A self-described MMA junkie, he'll now likely catch UFC 106 as a fan and look to get on a future card soon.

"I was feeling really good and ready to fight," he said. "But everything happens for a reason."

For complete coverage of UFC 106, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.

[cowboyronnie]

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Quite blurry, yes. But you can definitely see that Johnson's thumb seems to be right in Kos's left eye. Pretty conclusive as i see it.

A lot of haters owe Kos an apology.

Hilltop and Natural11

[Cammo101]

Pretty good card. It somewhat lacked that 'top dog' draw but i really liked the card as a whole.


Anyone want to make predictions for the next fights for these guys?

Kos:
Rumble:
Tito:
Forrest:
Nog:
Cain:
Amir:
Ben:
George S:

And also Hazelett :

I'll take a swing at it...

Kos: Paul Daley
Rumble: Martin Kampmann
Tito: Chuck Liddell
Forrest: Winner of Franklin vs. Jardine
Nog: Brandon Vera
Cain: Loser of Rashad vs. Thiago Silva
Amir: Alan Belcher
Ben: Yushin Okami
George S: Roger Huerta

And also Hazelett : Paulo Thiago

[cgf]

:lol:

Don't forget you're wrong about Machida too .

But enough of that Koscheck-Johnson fight. What do you guys think about a possible conflict between Lil Nog and Machida refusing to fight each other? Are they as close in Black House as Machida and Silva?

I'm pretty sure I've read that little nog wouldn't take that fight. Things can change, but this summer there was an article with him saying he wouldn't. Still good to hear he made a big intro, have yet to watch these fights but I'm a big little nog fan and siad that he was a top 5 LHW fighter when he signed with UFC and think he'll prove that assessment correct, his fight with shogun is still one of my all time favorite fights.

[Spartan13]

Interesting. I knew these black house guys stick together, they are true martial artists . Anyone know how long Lil Nog's contract is then? Maybe Lil Nog vs Moussasi is in his future?

[cowboyronnie]

Are you quoting yourself in your sig, Spartan?

[singh_shady]

Anyone catch the Forrest interview on ESPN's MMA Live? Forrest basically said he doesn't want to fight guys like Lil' Nog because they are not big name fighters (he also used Luiz Cane as an example). Granted, he did mention how that their name status is not an indicator of their skill (used Bones Jones as an example) but I just found it weird how he mentioned that. Don't know if Forrest knows Lil Nog has beaten Hendo and was involved in one of the greatest fights ever with Shogun..

I think Lil Nog vs Forrest would be a great fight. Have the winner of Rashad/Alves fight the winner of Machida/Shogun and let the winner of Lil Nog/Forrest be next in line. However by then, Rampage will probably be back and Couture will have gotten himself an unearned title shot..

[2009NBAChamps]

Anyone catch the Forrest interview on ESPN's MMA Live? Forrest basically said he doesn't want to fight guys like Lil' Nog because they are not big name fighters (he also used Luiz Cane as an example). Granted, he did mention how that their name status is not an indicator of their skill (used Bones Jones as an example) but I just found it weird how he mentioned that. Don't know if Forrest knows Lil Nog has beaten Hendo and was involved in one of the greatest fights ever with Shogun..

I think Lil Nog vs Forrest would be a great fight. Have the winner of Rashad/Alves fight the winner of Machida/Shogun and let the winner of Lil Nog/Forrest be next in line. However by then, Rampage will probably be back and Couture will have gotten himself an unearned title shot..

DIdn't see the interview but that's definitely very "unForest like."

Anyways, that scenario you stated doesn't really workout if Machida retains, because no one wants to see him make a fool of Rashad again, and Silva would need another win imo. Lil' Nog and Forrest would be a great fight, but it makes too much sense to happen so guess we'll let the cards play themselves out...

[Spartan13]

Rashad and Alves both lost horribly to Machida. If Machida beats Rua, they are not close to worthy of a rematch yet. If Rua wins, Rashad may pose a threat, but Alves doesnt pose a threat to any elite striker in the division, he doesnt deserve a title shot yet. Lil Nog probably won't fight Machida, probably wont take a title shot either. A Rua-Griffin rematch probably makes the most sense in that case. If Rampage comes back, he and Rashad should fight next no matter what. That is the fight everyone wants to see. If Randy beats Coleman, give him a shot against Griffin for the number one contender if Rua doesnt beat Machida.

With that logic, my 205 fight list goes:

Rua - Griffin if he beats Machida, Lil Nog if he loses.
Griffin - Winner of Randy/Coleman or title shot.
Rashad - Whenever Rampage comes back, or Tito rematch.


Man if Machida beats Rua, I really don't see anyone challenging him anytime soon. Lil Nog won't fight him, Rampage is on hiatus and has a date with Rashad. I dunno who can challenge him, maybe Jones in a few years.

[Cammo101]

Anyone catch the Forrest interview on ESPN's MMA Live? Forrest basically said he doesn't want to fight guys like Lil' Nog because they are not big name fighters (he also used Luiz Cane as an example). Granted, he did mention how that their name status is not an indicator of their skill (used Bones Jones as an example) but I just found it weird how he mentioned that. Don't know if Forrest knows Lil Nog has beaten Hendo and was involved in one of the greatest fights ever with Shogun..

I think Lil Nog vs Forrest would be a great fight. Have the winner of Rashad/Alves fight the winner of Machida/Shogun and let the winner of Lil Nog/Forrest be next in line. However by then, Rampage will probably be back and Couture will have gotten himself an unearned title shot..

To be fair, he did not say he wouldn't fight those guys, he simply said there was not much upside in it and he would rather fight the top guys in the division. All he did was say what every fighter thinks.

[Cammo101]

Rashad and Alves both lost horribly to Machida. If Machida beats Rua, they are not close to worthy of a rematch yet. If Rua wins, Rashad may pose a threat, but Alves doesnt pose a threat to any elite striker in the division, he doesnt deserve a title shot yet. Lil Nog probably won't fight Machida, probably wont take a title shot either. A Rua-Griffin rematch probably makes the most sense in that case. If Rampage comes back, he and Rashad should fight next no matter what. That is the fight everyone wants to see. If Randy beats Coleman, give him a shot against Griffin for the number one contender if Rua doesnt beat Machida.

With that logic, my 205 fight list goes:

Rua - Griffin if he beats Machida, Lil Nog if he loses.
Griffin - Winner of Randy/Coleman or title shot.
Rashad - Whenever Rampage comes back, or Tito rematch.


Man if Machida beats Rua, I really don't see anyone challenging him anytime soon. Lil Nog won't fight him, Rampage is on hiatus and has a date with Rashad. I dunno who can challenge him, maybe Jones in a few years.

2 words...

Randy Couture

[Spartan13]

Assuming he even gets a title shot, Randy's chances against Machida are slim. Machida has arguably the best takedown defense in the division, and is wayyy quicker then that old man. And just because Machida is mostly a counter striker, doesnt mean he isnt aggressive also. Vera is way more of a passive fighter then Machida. Machida will not let Randy clinch his way to victory, I'd rather see Machida fight Tito again then Mr. early bird dinner special.

[Cammo101]

Assuming he even gets a title shot, Randy's chances against Machida are slim. Machida has arguably the best takedown defense in the division, and is wayyy quicker then that old man. And just because Machida is mostly a counter striker, doesnt mean he isnt aggressive also. Vera is way more of a passive fighter then Machida. Machida will not let Randy clinch his way to victory, I'd rather see Machida fight Tito again then Mr. early bird dinner special.

I think Randy matches up really well with Machida actually. IMO few can out strike Lyoto, but Randy can take him down and keep him there. He will have to avoid getting clobbered on the way in of course.

I am not predicting Randy wins, but I think he matches up better than most if he uses his wrestling. (Like Rashad should have)

[Spartan13]

Assuming he even gets a title shot, Randy's chances against Machida are slim. Machida has arguably the best takedown defense in the division, and is wayyy quicker then that old man. And just because Machida is mostly a counter striker, doesnt mean he isnt aggressive also. Vera is way more of a passive fighter then Machida. Machida will not let Randy clinch his way to victory, I'd rather see Machida fight Tito again then Mr. early bird dinner special.

I think Randy matches up really well with Machida actually. IMO few can out strike Lyoto, but Randy can take him down and keep him there. He will have to avoid getting clobbered on the way in of course.

I am not predicting Randy wins, but I think he matches up better than most if he uses his wrestling. (Like Rashad should have)

Couldnt Agree with that part more. I thought Greg Jackson was supposed to be good at game plans?

But Tito and Rua have tried and failed. Randy will have to take Machida down for atleast 3 rounds and keep him there, all the while avoiding Machida Karate stnading up and Nogueira Ju-Jitsu on the ground. I highly doubt that will happen. Someone like Griffin could at least out leg kick Machida, Rampage could KO anyone, Rashad could go back to wrestling, Jones could out Bones him, all of those are more likely then Randy sitting his way to a victory against Machida.

[Cammo101]

Tito (especially with a bad back) and Rua do not have MMA wrestling like Randy. If Randy can't take him down it will be a long night for him, but if he can, he can grind out a wing.

Rashad in that fight suffered from a wrestler turned MMA guy disease of falling in love with your new toy. Wrestlers learn how to box and only want to ever do that. It cost Rashad the Machida fight, Sherk the Edgar fight, and Kos the Alves fight. Eventually they learn there is a big difference between a good striker and an elite striker. Kos at least learned his lesson against Rumble.