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[damo[23]]

Who does Sonnen face, Vitor or Anderson?

I keep seeing people moaning on forums (I.E sherdog) that Couture is getting a title shot, is this just rumblings like the usual Sherdog tripe, or actually any legitimacy to it in post fight interviews with Dana and Co?

[Posey H8er]

From the interviews I saw, Dana was ho-hum on Couture title-shot talk. He basically said it's possible but other fights have to play out in the LHW division before they know their next move (Shogun/Machida II and Rampage/Rashad). He kept reiterating that Couture is a top 5/6 LHW though.

However I think Couture should get another fight before earning the shot. Something like Couture vs Thiago Silva in May/June and if Couture wins he gets the shot.

[Headliner]

what a **** card.
So glad I didn't pay.

I actually felt bad watching the Coleman fight, made me feel awkward.

[Hilltop]

That's because the Main Event fight was crap. Randy Couture is one of my favorite MMA Fighters but that was a poor showing all around. Coleman is done, simple as that.

By the way, how many more fights does Randy have left on his contract? 3 or 4 more? If the plan is to preserve him, it would be in their best interests to delay a title match and give him one more "win" before then.

[Cammo101]

That's because the Main Event fight was crap. Randy Couture is one of my favorite MMA Fighters but that was a poor showing all around. Coleman is done, simple as that.

By the way, how many more fights does Randy have left on his contract? 3 or 4 more? If the plan is to preserve him, it would be in their best interests to delay a title match and give him one more "win" before then.

The fight sucked, but through no fault of Randy. He looked good. I think he should get Machida if he beats Shogun. If Shogun wins, I say give him the Rashad/Rampage winner.

[Nemesis21]

That's because the Main Event fight was crap. Randy Couture is one of my favorite MMA Fighters but that was a poor showing all around. Coleman is done, simple as that.

By the way, how many more fights does Randy have left on his contract? 3 or 4 more? If the plan is to preserve him, it would be in their best interests to delay a title match and give him one more "win" before then.

The fight sucked, but through no fault of Randy. He looked good. I think he should get Machida if he beats Shogun. If Shogun wins, I say give him the Rashad/Rampage winner.

Agree with this .

[CPT]

That's because the Main Event fight was crap. Randy Couture is one of my favorite MMA Fighters but that was a poor showing all around. Coleman is done, simple as that.

By the way, how many more fights does Randy have left on his contract? 3 or 4 more? If the plan is to preserve him, it would be in their best interests to delay a title match and give him one more "win" before then.

The fight sucked, but through no fault of Randy. He looked good. I think he should get Machida if he beats Shogun. If Shogun wins, I say give him the Rashad/Rampage winner.

You think he should, or you think he will?

We all know he lost to Vera, and he beat a guy who had no business being in the Octagon in Mark Coleman. You think that warrants a title shot over the Rampage/Rashad winner, or hell, even the Forrest/Lil Nog winner?

I've been saying I think he will get a title shot, but by no means do I think he should. He should have to beat someone with a pulse before even being considered. Even a fake contender like Jardine or Franklin. I think the UFC realizes that a title shot for Randy at this point will not be met with a positive response, and it's not like there's a lack of other contenders.

[Cammo101]

That's because the Main Event fight was crap. Randy Couture is one of my favorite MMA Fighters but that was a poor showing all around. Coleman is done, simple as that.

By the way, how many more fights does Randy have left on his contract? 3 or 4 more? If the plan is to preserve him, it would be in their best interests to delay a title match and give him one more "win" before then.

The fight sucked, but through no fault of Randy. He looked good. I think he should get Machida if he beats Shogun. If Shogun wins, I say give him the Rashad/Rampage winner.

You think he should, or you think he will?

We all know he lost to Vera, and he beat a guy who had no business being in the Octagon in Mark Coleman. You think that warrants a title shot over the Rampage/Rashad winner, or hell, even the Forrest/Lil Nog winner?

I've been saying I think he will get a title shot, but by no means do I think he should. He should have to beat someone with a pulse before even being considered. Even a fake contender like Jardine or Franklin. I think the UFC realizes that a title shot for Randy at this point will not be met with a positive response, and it's not like there's a lack of other contenders.

I think if Machida wins, there is no better fight than him vs. Couture.

If Machida beats Shogun, then I say he should fight Couture with the winner getting the Rampage/Rashad winner.

If Shogun wins, he should either fight Forrest Griffin again or the winner of Rampage/Rashad.

[CPT]

You don't think Machida vs. Rampage is better? Even a rematch with Rashad would be better. Regardless of who the winner is, they are better fighters who would be on better win streaks than Randy.

It's not like the timing doesn't fit either. It actually fits better than Couture, since Machida/Shogun isn't for another 3 months.

[Cammo101]

You don't think Machida vs. Rampage is better? Even a rematch with Rashad would be better. Regardless of who the winner is, they are better fighters who would be on better win streaks than Randy.

It's not like the timing doesn't fit either. It actually fits better than Couture, since Machida/Shogun isn't for another 3 months.

The problem is, if you wait to see what happens and Rashad wins, then you are stuck with a fight no one wants to see. Machida vs. Rampage makes the most sense, but he would have to win.

It is way too soon to put Rashad in there with Machida again. No one wants to see that fight. Because of that, you can't make the Rampage/Rashad a #1 contender fight.

The smarter move IMO would would be to make a Machida vs. Couture fight and see how the dust settles in the Rampage/Rashad and Forrest/Lil Nog fights. At least we know Randy vs. Machida will make a billion dollars.

[CPT]

I think people would be fine with a Rashad vs. Machida rematch, if Rashad beats Rampage. Even though Rashad got beaten badly in his fight with Machida, Machida has looked more vulnerable since then, and with a strong performance against Rampage, people could probably get behind a Rashad vs. Machida rematch. If it ends up being Shogun vs. Rashad, all the better.

Obviously, Rampage is a better option for either guy. I do question the UFC's willingness to give him a title shot though.

For business, Couture vs. Machida would be okay. I don't think it's a huge fight, and I don't think Couture is quite the PPV draw he's made out to be, but it could carry a card. I just think it's too much of a joke to do right now, and they will give Couture another guy he can probably beat, but with a big enough name that if he wins, people will be more willing to accept him as a contender.

I doubt they will announce Randy to fight the winner of Shogun/Machida before it happens, and then, you only have to wait 3 more weeks to see how Rampage/Rashad and Griffin/Lil Nog play out. That's a lot less waiting than having Randy sit on the shelf for at least 6 more months in order to get the title fight.

[Cammo101]

I think people would be a lot more excited about seeing Machida fight Couture as apposed to a rematch with Rashad.

It is not often you see a guy get tooled in a title shot and end up getting another shot against the same guy pretty quickly. It rarely happens, because it is hard to sell.

[CPT]

Rashad now? Yeah, nobody wants to see that.

Rashad after beating Rampage? I think there would be some interest.

And how about Randy himself getting a rematch with Chuck, less than a year after getting KO'd? All he had to do was beat Mike Van **** Arsdale. I know it was a different time, but the former champ coming off wins over Thiago Silva and Rampage Jackson is a lot better than Randy Couture.

I still think there's a chance they will do it, maybe a pretty good chance, I'm just saying it will be total BS.

To me it just makes more sense to throw Randy in there with a Jardine or Franklin 3-4 months from now, and if he wins, people might be more willing to get on board with a title shot. I don't think Randy should be (or wants to be) sitting out 6-8 months at this point in his career anyway.

[Spicy P]

That was a weak card. That Damien Maia and Dan Miller fight almost put me to sleep. Main event was awful as well. Randy Couture looking like he's 30 and Mark Coleman looking like he's 80.

[Rasheeed!!!]

did anyone see the Gracie fight? WTF was that crap...worst fight ever! dude should never be given the opportunity to fight again