OT: Floyd Mayweather sucker punches Victor Ortiz

[Posey H8er]

come on that was more entertaining than floyd's previous two wins combined. and by doing what he did floyd created more interest by creating more fan hatred.

[Rich Rane]

If Floyd is willing to suffer a multi-million dollar penalty for every pound that he comes in over weight, why is it that Pacquaio can't compromise to the drug testing that Floyd himself will encounter as well?

Mayweather came in overweight in a 144 catchweight bout against Marquez. He paid Marquez a measly $600,000 out of a +$20,000,000 purse for being 2 pounds overweight, hence Pacquiao's team asking for a harsher penalty.

All of Floyd's opponents (Marquez, DLH, Hatton, Mosley and Ortiz) have gone through it, what makes Pacquaio so special that he too can't partake?

And the bolded is wrong.

[TheMartian]

Proof That Floyd Mayweather Is Afraid To Fight Manny Pacquiao

[whysoserious]

I don't know if Pacquaio's on PED's or not. But why Mayweather get to set the drug testing rules more stringent? If the State Athletic Commission says a fighter is good than is that no longer acceptable?

I really don't care either way, not a huge boxing fan to begin with. Both Pac and Floyd are great fighters, they should fight at some point.

As for the topic, you need to call out Ortiz's headbutt attempt as much worse than Floyd's suckerpunch. Thats MO.

[Tony_Montana]

MMA goes mainstream on Fox this year while boxing continues to fade into the background with punks like Mayweather leading the charge,

do angry black people scare you?

[LittleOzzy]

MMA goes mainstream on Fox this year while boxing continues to fade into the background with punks like Mayweather leading the charge,

do angry black people scare you?

Comments like the above just ruin the discussion.... Like honestly, you take a good debate and just piss all over it with childish garbage.

[Parataxis]

I don't know if Pacquaio's on PED's or not. But why Mayweather get to set the drug testing rules more stringent? If the State Athletic Commission says a fighter is good than is that no longer acceptable?

Because fighters can negotiate testing beyond what the athletic commissions dictate - just like the can negotiate place, rounds (if not a title fight), and etc...

If Manny isn't on PEDs, and if he isn't scared of Floyd, why won't he agree to it? He's got nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Unless of course, he's too afraid of losing.

[Blame Rasho]

Boxing is like dealing with a ho. You've got to protect yourself at all times. If you don't protect yourself at all times, then the repercussions can and most likely will be fierce. ... Floyd ended up doing what he needed to do in striking at a time when you're in a fight. You can't lose focus and take your eyes off of the fight. You have to be aware of everything -- legal or illegal -- that's going on. The winners in this game are based on who knows the rules in the game of boxing and who knows what you can and can't do. And that often comes down to experience."

[cowboyronnie]

Floyd is a ho, agreed.

[commadoor 64]

I don't know if Pacquaio's on PED's or not. But why Mayweather get to set the drug testing rules more stringent? If the State Athletic Commission says a fighter is good than is that no longer acceptable?

Because fighters can negotiate testing beyond what the athletic commissions dictate - just like the can negotiate place, rounds (if not a title fight), and etc...

If Manny isn't on PEDs, and if he isn't scared of Floyd, why won't he agree to it? He's got nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Unless of course, he's too afraid of losing.

Pacquiao has agreed to the terms mayweather set forth, it's just that Mayweather changed the terms after they agreed.

Arum said for weeks before the deadline that Mayweather's camp had a contract for the fight and that Pacquiao has accepted the terms, including provisions for drug testing (blood and urine) leading to the bout. An inability to come to terms on the drug-testing issue caused the fight to fall apart in early January and sent both fighters into other bouts.

The full article is pretty interesting and it sounds like it's all Mayweather doing the ducking. There's no other reason why it can't get done on Pacquiao end.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5388241


Also, Paqcuiao even has a lawsuit against Mayweather for defamation of character for accusing Pacquiao of taking PED's.

Now .... IF Manny Pacquiao was using, does anyone REALLY think he's gonna take it into a court of law to get it resolved. No, he's taking it there because he isn't using.....

Lawsuit as reported by the AP ... http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6244917


So, it all comes down to Mayweather.
THe PED thing is nothing more than smoke in mirrors and Mayweather's weakass attempt to make Manny look bad and setup an excuse for his eventual loss to Pacquiao, should he lose.

LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao's defamation lawsuit against longtime boxing rival Floyd Mayweather Jr. and others rests on firm allegations and can continue, a Nevada federal judge said in a court order Monday that denied a motion to dismiss the case.

U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks said Pacquiao has sufficient evidence to continue his lawsuit that alleges Mayweather and others acted with malice by accusing the Filipino boxer in a series of interviews of using performance-enhancing drugs.

"Moving defendants argue that Pacquiao has failed to sufficiently allege malice because moving defendants could not have known one way or the other whether Pacquiao had actually taken PEDs when they made the alleged defamatory statements," the order reads. "However, the court finds that Pacquiao has sufficiently pled malice in the amended complaint."

Pacquiao claimed in the suit that he has never tested positive for any performance-enhancing drugs, but that Mayweather, Mayweather's father and uncle, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions' Richard Schaefer embarked on a campaign to make people think he used drugs.

"The truth did not stop Mayweather and the others," the suit contends. "That is because they are motivated by ill will, spite, malice, revenge and envy."

And now, Mayweather is ducking the court and is starting to look at actual jailtime over the whole thing, I guess that really would be the ultimate duck. Having yourself thrown in jail to get out of a fight.

"He was required to be at a deposition today in Las Vegas, where I was to examine him, under oath, about his false accusations concerning Manny Pacquiao," Petrocelli said in a telephone interview. "His lawyers filed papers this week, seeking to get out of the deposition. The judge denied that request and ordered him to appear. Nonetheless, he did not appear."

Mayweather filed an appeal to the denial of his emergency motion late Thursday, "but filing an appeal does not appease your obligation to appear," Petrocelli said.

Mayweather's failure to appear could result in a wide range of remedies by the court, including holding him in contempt, assuming the deposition is not rescheduled quickly, or a default judgment in Pacquiao's favor.

Petrocelli said he would seek the latter.

"The law presumes if you're not willing to show up and testify under oath, then you don't have a defense to the charges, therefore you should forfeit your right to defend yourself," he said.

full article ... http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2011/06/floyd_mayweather_defies_court.html


This quote by yet another reporter after the Ortiz fight basically has it summed up correctly...

Acting this way demeans him. If he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao because he truly believes in his heart that Pacquiao is using performance enhancing drugs, then say so. It will disappoint millions of fans worldwide, many of whom are his fans, but it's his choice to fight whomever he wants.

And in what can truly be a life-or-death situation like boxing, no one could blame him if he said no to a fight if he is convinced Pacquiao is doping. This crazy tap dance he's playing, though, has to end.

For all the great things that Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done in his career, his response to that one question continues to be his only losing move.

Again, full article ... http://m.yahoo.com/w/sports/home/experts/article?offset=0&urn=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cyhoo%3A20050301%3Abox%2Carticle%2Cki-iole_mayweather_pacquiao_091911%3A1&.ts=1316390738&.ysid=f34SEddTNSxfvGJ1qU1qlW13&.intl=US&.lang=en

[Bank Shot]

Boxing is like dealing with a ho. You've got to protect yourself at all times. If you don't protect yourself at all times, then the repercussions can and most likely will be fierce. ... Floyd ended up doing what he needed to do in striking at a time when you're in a fight. You can't lose focus and take your eyes off of the fight. You have to be aware of everything -- legal or illegal -- that's going on. The winners in this game are based on who knows the rules in the game of boxing and who knows what you can and can't do. And that often comes down to experience."

Not saying I disagree, but of course Bernard would say something like this

Ugh, just had a flashback of Hopkins-Jones 2.

[cowboyronnie]

People paid, collectively, 10s and 10s of millions of dollars to see a boxing competition. It ended in a completely non-competitive way. I didn't pay to see someone win by any means necessary, on a technicality ("the rules of the game"), I wanted to see boxing. Hopkins is a jackass.

[3960HOOD]

I paid for the PPV and was disappointed I feel cheated out of my money. Next time I wont order it and just watch it streaming. Head butt is like one of the big no nos in boxing and I understand why Mayweather did it because he was angry and could have gotten really hurt with a head butt.