Mayweather vs Cotto 5/5

[Rich Rane]

Fight was much closer than I thought it was going to be. Credit to Cotto for stepping up than Mayweather slowing down.

[BlueDawn]

One of Mayweather's most entertaining fights. Great fight. The commentator was pissing me off though. Paquiao!NOW!

lol Justin Bieber walking with Mayweather.... what the hell

HHH was there too

[Rich Rane]

What feed were you guys watching? HBO didn't seem all that bad.

And again...take it from the boxing regulars here, don't hold your breath on Mayweather and Pacquiao fighting anytime soon.

[singh_shady]

Good god this post fight interview is so cringe-worthy.. Great fight though!

[Geddy]

Mayweather looked disinterested for most of the fight but still won in convincing fashion.

[Blame Rasho]

Mayweather earned his 50 plus million dollar payday...

[Rich Rane]

Mayweather earned his 50 plus million dollar payday...

How often do we say that?

[GS Warriors 1]

I really enjoyed the fight. Cotto gave him a challenge and Mayweather stepped up his game late in the fight to take it. I thought it was closer than the cards indicate but no doubt that Floyd won the fight, probably in the range of 116-112. What surprised me the most was Cotto's defense, he really tightened up and made Floyd miss more than he usually does. Would not surprise me if Pedro Diaz is the trainer that fighters look into, thought he put together as well of a plan as you possibly can against Floyd Mayweather. I'll be interested to see what's next for Cotto. Stay at 54 or go back to 47....stay as his own promoter or go back to TR. No idea what Floyd will do when he gets out of jail. I very much doubt that he fights Pacquiao or Martinez, maybe Berto if he wins, I could see that.

Alvarez beat the **** out of Mosley for 12 rounds, not that much of a surprise. I hope Sugar Shane retires after this beating. Vargas-Forbes was a very boring fight, just don't see what some see in Vargas. Solid skills but he has no pop on his punches. Quintana over Latimore was not an upset even though I think he was listed as a dog. Quintana just has better skills, more experience against top competition, and it showed. After round 1, Latimore was outclassed.

[skflives]

What feed were you guys watching? HBO didn't seem all that bad.

And again...take it from the boxing regulars here, don't hold your breath on Mayweather and Pacquiao fighting anytime soon.

Well I don't know about anyone else but I believe the free online feed I found yesterday was from Sky TV. The announcers for that feed were incredibly biased. It was downright embarrassing. If memory serves me even the one British experts that came on to discuss the fight afterwards had mentioned how horribly biased the announcers were. Oh and they also said that Larry Merchant must be paid by the word or something like that. Priceless.

[skflives]

I'll be interested to see what's next for Cotto. Stay at 54 or go back to 47....stay as his own promoter or go back to TR. No idea what Floyd will do when he gets out of jail. I very much doubt that he fights Pacquiao or Martinez, maybe Berto if he wins, I could see that.

I think the issue both guys have is that they both are big money fighters but there aren't a lot of big money fights out there for them. Considering he lost and isn't as adverse to taking lesser known guys after losses Cotto has more flexibility when it comes to guys he can fight:

Possibilities for Mayweather (assuming no Pacquio):

1.Saul Alvarez-Golden Boy seems like they want to protect him though.
2.Sergio Martinez-The next guy I want Pacquio or Mayweather to fight if they don't fight each other but both guys probably see him as too big and skilled.
3. Andre Berto- Has to beat Victor Ortiz
4. Amir Khan- Has to beat Lemont Peterson and then you have the Bob Arum issue


Possibilities for Cotto:
1. Paul Williams- Big name but doesn't look anywhere near as dangerous as he did prior to Sergio Martinez.
2.Erislandy Lara-Good fighter. He actually beat Williams not that the judges seemed to notice.
3.James Kirkland-Good fighter who makes for exciting fights but flawed and beatable.
4. Vanes Martirosyan-The matchup had been mentioned as a possibility previously
5.The winner of Corneilus Bundrage and Corey Spinks-Just to get another belt for leverage b4 his next big fight.
6.Sergio Martinez-Don't think its a legit possibility but Cotto has faced guys other big names have avoided so its not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

[vi3t]

^Amir Khan is with Golden Boy not TR so no issues, plus he needs a couple of tuneup fights at 147 first before he thinks about Mayweather......that one judge who had it 118-110 Mayweather is a joke, same guy who had Brandon Rios beating Abril by a wide margin

[cowboyronnie]

Wow. What a fight. I was practically in tears of joy watching those two. Floyd's defensive intuition is amazing. Cotto tried so damn hard but clearly couldn't sustain the attack he had in those late-middle rounds. But damn he actually had Floyd hurt - Mayweather looked fatigued and dazed in his corner after a couple of those rounds.

I waited a day just to specifically get a rip of the HBO feed. Those Box Nation guys are such douchebags. And, in fact, Manny Steward was at his best this event. Really insightful stuff. Especially his talk about Floyd's ability for mental focus.

[cowboyronnie]

^Amir Khan is with Golden Boy not TR so no issues, plus he needs a couple of tuneup fights at 147 first before he thinks about Mayweather......that one judge who had it 118-110 Mayweather is a joke, same guy who had Brandon Rios beating Abril by a wide margin :crazy:

Really? How is that judge still working?

A couple of those crews from other recent terrible decisions were suspended. I think the Paul Williams judges, for example.

[Butch718]

Possibilities for Cotto:
1. Paul Williams- Big name but doesn't look anywhere near as dangerous as he did prior to Sergio Martinez.
2.Erislandy Lara-Good fighter. He actually beat Williams not that the judges seemed to notice.
3.James Kirkland-Good fighter who makes for exciting fights but flawed and beatable.
4. Vanes Martirosyan-The matchup had been mentioned as a possibility previously
5.The winner of Corneilus Bundrage and Corey Spinks-Just to get another belt for leverage b4 his next big fight.
6.Sergio Martinez-Don't think its a legit possibility but Cotto has faced guys other big names have avoided so its not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

1. I think Cotto would bust up Williams pretty bad. Williams is completely shot at this point of his career. The one thing I hate about Williams is that he doesn't use his height and length to his advantage.

2. I like Lara a lot as a fighter. He definitely won that fight against Williams. I think he would give Cotto a run for his money. If Lara can't get a fight with Cotto, I'd like to see if Oscar has the balls to match him up with Canelo. Probably not.

3. A Kirkland fight could entertaining for however long it lasts. Only problem is he's susceptible to getting hit with a big shot. His chin is extremely problematic. Cotto could make short work of him.

4. Haven't seen enough of Martirosyan. So I can't really say.

5. Pass.

6. I'd like to see this match up the most. Martinez is getting up there in age(38) and deserves a big payday, especially since a fight with Mayweather and Pacquiao is extremely unrealistic at this point.

[skflives]

1. I think Cotto would bust up Williams pretty bad. Williams is completely shot at this point of his career. The one thing I hate about Williams is that he doesn't use his height and length to his advantage.

2. I like Lara a lot as a fighter. He definitely won that fight against Williams. I think he would give Cotto a run for his money. If Lara can't get a fight with Cotto, I'd like to see if Oscar has the balls to match him up with Canelo. Probably not.

3. A Kirkland fight could entertaining for however long it lasts. Only problem is he's susceptible to getting hit with a big shot. His chin is extremely problematic. Cotto could make short work of him.

4. Haven't seen enough of Martirosyan. So I can't really say.

5. Pass.

6. I'd like to see this match up the most. Martinez is getting up there in age(38) and deserves a big payday, especially since a fight with Mayweather and Pacquiao is extremely unrealistic at this point.

I pretty much agree on all counts. I think a fight with Lara is the most interesting fight for Cotto if he doesn't fight Martinez.

[Butch718]

You know what's ironic, Martinez left 154 because of the lack of competition. But now 154 is one of the hottest divisions in the sport. I keep hearing this guy flap his mouth about being able to make 151 for a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight. If he's willing to do that(which would be crazy), he should have no problems going back down to 154 for Cotto, Lara, Kirkland, etc.

[Blame Rasho]

Cotto will not fight him. Lara really doesnt have anything but a non win vs Williams who Martinez crushed, and Kirkland is going to be protected until he is back to his beastly self.

I want Martinez to fight Sturm for the only reason that I really hate Sturm. Sturm got the shaft vs Oscar many moons ago but who had he fought afterwards? Not on real world class fighter.

[Butch718]

I like Lara a lot. I've seen him a few times and I'm impressed with his skills. I think the guy could make a ton of noise if given the chance.

Cotto probably won't fight Martinez because Sergio presents a ton of risk without providing any substantial financial upside. The one draw back on Martinez is that he lacks of passionate fan base to help support a legit PPV. Mexicans generally support Mexican fighters. Fighters like Cotto and Juanma will always be supported by Puerto Ricans. Khan with Brits. Etc. Argentinian folks don't support him in the same manner. Martinez's following begins and ends with die hard boxing fans.

I'd actually like to see Martinez fight Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. JCCJ gets sh*t on a lot for being a protected fighter that hasn't really fought great competition. Which is fair. That being said, I actually think his size difference, power and chin would give Sergio a hell of a fight. Not as easy as many people are making it out to be. JCCJ will never be a great boxer. But his skills have improved under Roach over the last year.

[cowboyronnie]

Post here more often, Butch. Good stuff.

[Butch718]

Thanks man. Love talking about boxing despite how far the sport has fallen in the last couple of years.