TUF Brazil: Chael vs. Wanderlei (UFN 42: 5/31)

cowboyronnie · Post #61 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:20 am

Oh Jesus, Fabio Maldanodo in for JDS against Stipe!?? WTF? I don't think any other commission would even let that happen. Fabio should be fighting at MW.

Guy's too tough for his own good. He's sloppy as ****, preferring to eat shots so that he can remain relaxed and counter than defend properly. And evidently doesn't train in any disciplined manner. Now he's in against a HW on less than 4 wks notice???

REDDzone · Post #62 » by **REDDzone** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:34 am

He's flabby at lhw. Regardless of the outcome, this fight shouldn't have been made imo.

Jasen777 · Post #63 » by **Jasen777** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:55 am

And Maia is fighting someone named Yakovlev? Cage Potato made a joke about how much this is like a Bellator event - with the tournament finals and Russian prospects. With the TUF fighters in though, that's probably an insult to Bellator.

Post #64 » by **CPT** » Sat May 31, 2014 2:05 am

So this is the final card:

main CARD
FOX Sports 1, 10 p.m. ET
Fabio Maldonado vs. Stipe Miocic
Antonio Carlos Jr. vs. Vitor Miranda
"TUF: Brazil 3" heavyweight tourney final
Warlley Alves de Andrade vs. Marcio Alexandre Jr.
"TUF: Brazil 3" middleweight tourney final
Demian Maia vs. Alexander Yakovlev
Rony Jason vs. Robert Peralta
preliminary CARD
FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
Rodrigo Damm vs. Rashid Magomedov
Ernest Chavez vs. Elias Silverio
Paulo Thiago vs. Gasan Umalatov
Mark Eddiva vs. Kevin Souza
preliminary CARD
UFC Fight Pass, 6:30 p.m. ET
Ricardo Abreu vs. Wagner Silva
Marcos Rogerio de Lima vs. Richardson Moreira
Matt Hobar vs. Pedro Munhoz

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #65 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sat May 31, 2014 11:46 pm

I know nobody except the Main Event...LMAO >< Oh & Maia & Paulo Thiago of course.

But that's it.

REDDzone · Post #66 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:15 am

I may throw a small wager on Maldanado. Brazilians do well in Brazil. Also, there is a size difference but I doubt Stipe is even that much bigger than Glover who Maldanado almost someway finished after an insane beating. He's like a 5:1 dog lol.

Post #67 » by **spykelee** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:43 am

Maia retires after this loss.

Post #68 » by **spykelee** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:04 am

Or not, gahhhhhh.

Boring fight. What does a Maia win do? He can't beat the elite in the division. He's 36 years old and is 5-4 in his last 9 fights... His last submission was 5 fights ago and the last one before that was 15 fights ago and that was his 11th decision in his last 13... I just don't see the excitement that this guy brings to the table.

Post #69 » by **spykelee** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:38 am

Warelly Alves was super impressive in that one, wow. Had that Brazilian aggressiveness, coupled with some in ring smarts, and a great game plan and what seemed like a pretty well rounded skill set. Able to secure the clinch at will, powerful striker, and puts him away with a sub. At 23 keep your eye on that guy.

Jasen777 · Post #70 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:13 am

Lol at those heavyweights. Did they eat a big meal before the weigh-in?

REDDzone · Post #71 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:43 am

Anddd Miocic starches Maldanado.

Jasen777 · Post #72 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:57 am

Didn't take long.

REDDzone · Post #73 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 5:04 am

Good thing I kept that wager small.

Pissed that I forgot to bet on Dolloway from the earlier event today.

Cammo101 · Post #74 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:20 pm

Up next for all involved should be...

Miocic vs. Junior dos Santos
Maldonado vs. Jimi Manuwa
Carlos Jr. vs. Sean O'Connell
Miranda vs. Hans Stringer
W. Alves vs. Peter Sobotta
Alexandre Jr. vs. Moreira
Maia vs. Tarec Saffiedine
Yakovlev vs. Pawel Pawlak
Peralta vs. Max Holloway
Rony Jason vs. Chan Sung Jung
Magomedov vs. Silverio
Damm vs. Drew Dober
Silverio vs. Magomedov
Chavez vs. Mairbek Taisumov
Umalatov vs. Ryan LaFlare
Souza vs. Niklas Backstrom
Eddiva vs. Andy Ogle
Abreu vs. de Lima
de Lima vs. Abreu
Moreira vs. Alexandre Jr.
Munhoz vs. George Roop
Hobar vs. Dustin Kimura

Cut List: Paulo Thiago, Wagner Silva.

REDDzone · Post #75 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 1:37 pm

Listening to mmahour. Luke Thomas with a great point as usual re: chael/vitor/wand drama.

Why the sudden shift on Belfort? Dana goes from saying Vitor "has work to do" to get back to fighting a few weeks ago, now Vitor is in a marquee slot on a ppv. Additionally, he's already ready? If he was going to be back and ready to fight again SO quickly, then how come he had to be pulled from the Weidman fight in the first place?

Finally, despite Dana saying the fight with Vitor/Chael would be at 185. Chael I guess reiterated the next day to the Brazilian media that the fight would be at 205, that the contract itself said 205. What a weird situation.

edit: More and more interesting stuff the mention that I didn't think about. Vitor never pulled out of the Weidman fight, the ufc apparently pulled him because they said he couldn't be ready in time coming off TRT. At the same time, Hendo just fought a few weeks ago coming off TRT after being on it against Shogun in March. wtf. And at the back of all this lies the mysterious drug tests of which the results were never released. His license application will be very, very interesting.

SDM · Post #76 » by **SDM** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 1:43 pm

I'm guessing his license application is accompanied by a mystery briefcase. I heard that's how governments do things.

REDDzone · Post #77 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 2:35 pm

SDM wrote:I'm guessing his license application is accompanied by a mystery briefcase. I heard that's how governments do things.

I can't remember if it was Ariel, Luke or Chuck Mindenhall, but one of them predicted that it would be a lot of bluster and blah blah blah but at the end of the day they hand him his license. Kind of like how the Overeem thing went down. Ariel made a great point that the ufc wouldn't be promoting this fight if they weren't very confident that it would be licensed.

NZB2323 · Post #78 » by **NZB2323** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:27 pm

It seems to be that Dana White and the UFC brass are way overstretched. Between all the TUFs, cards on every day, expanding in Asia, the Fox deal, sponsorships, dealing with fighters making mistakes, ect. They're overexpanded and they have to coordinate so many decisions a day with so many different organizations.

So the Wand thing goes down and Dana White says "**** it, we'll just have Vitor fight Chael and that'll be a big money fight. I don't care about what problems that causes and if the fight can't happen, we'll find someone else, but while they're asking me this in Germany I'll say Vitor is fighting Chael at 185 in order to get a lot of publicity. And I'm going to do everything in my power to make this fight happen, because I get paid to make the UFC money."

REDDzone · Post #79 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:29 pm

NZB2323 wrote:It seems to be that Dana White and the UFC brass are way overstretched. Between all the TUFs, cards on every day, expanding in Asia, the Fox deal, sponsorships, dealing with fighters making mistakes, ect. They're overexpanded and they have to coordinate so many decisions a day with so many different organizations.

So the Wand thing goes down and Dana White says "**** it, we'll just have Vitor fight Chael and that'll be a big money fight. I don't care about what problems that causes and if the fight can't happen, we'll find someone else, but while they're asking me this in Germany I'll say Vitor is fighting Chael at 185 in order to get a lot of publicity. And I'm going to do everything in my power to make this fight happen, because I get paid to make the UFC money."

I'm not saying it didn't happen like that, but IF it did, then that is an extremely vast departure from the way they normally do things.

SDM · Post #80 » by **SDM** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 4:27 pm

NZB2323 wrote:It seems to be that Dana White and the UFC brass are way overstretched. Between all the TUFs, cards on every day, expanding in Asia, the Fox deal, sponsorships, dealing with fighters making mistakes, ect. They're overexpanded and they have to coordinate so many decisions a day with so many different organizations.

Yep. This weekend was proof of it, too.