UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6)

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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#201 » by REDDzone » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:05 pm

SDM wrote:He HAS been suspiciously quiet lately, even up here, haven't seen him on tv or radio or anything much.


Listen to him on Chael's podcast, its pretty clear that he is going to fight again. The notion that he is just going to do superfights is so silly. WTF super fight is there outside of the Anderson fight (imo he has also made it clear that he has no interest in fighting above 170). So somehow you get him to agree to fight Anderson, okay then what? He retires? IDK what other superfights are available.

TBH I have little interest in guys who aren't competing in their division for the title. This seems like sacrilege, but I could care less about the Silva/Diaz fight tbh.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#202 » by Headliner » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:01 pm

If GSP does come back, I hope it's with full health.
That ACL injury, there was a notable difference. I'd love to see him come back, but it would almost guarantee that he would have to fight Rory soon if he won.

I'm sure they would want to do the Hendrix rematch right away, but how do you give a title fight to a guy who is 1-2 in his last two, even if the two losses were controversial, they are, for histories purposes, losses.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#203 » by REDDzone » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:11 pm

Headliner wrote:I'm sure they would want to do the Hendrix rematch right away, but how do you give a title fight to a guy who is 1-2 in his last two, even if the two losses were controversial, they are, for histories purposes, losses.


Dude you are talking about the ufc, there have been several recent examples of people coming off of losses, hell coming off of bad knockout losses, getting title shots. I personally disagree with it, but giving Hendricks a rematch is a small blip in the overall bad matchmaking radar tbh.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#204 » by SDM » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:31 pm

I think the only immediate rematches lately that I've been OK with are Silva/Weidman II and Bendo/Frankie II. I hear all the arguments against the second Silva/Weidman fight and it's hard to disagree... but the idea is to *hope* Silva wins the second, so you can end the feud with a hotly anticipated third fight. It's smart business and good drama if the stars align.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#205 » by REDDzone » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:36 pm

SDM wrote:I think the only immediate rematches lately that I've been OK with are Silva/Weidman II and Bendo/Frankie II. I hear all the arguments against the second Silva/Weidman fight and it's hard to disagree... but the idea is to *hope* Silva wins the second, so you can end the feud with a hotly anticipated third fight. It's smart business and good drama if the stars align.


I was more talking about the argument against Hendricks because he has lost 2 of 3 or whatever headliner cited. Hendricks won the majority of media scorecards here as well as the GSP fight, so saying he has lost 2 of 3 takes away the context. I was just saying that given that, and given the fact that the ufc has given title shots to several fighters coming off of KO losses in recent history (Meisha and Chael come immediately to mind), Hendricks technically losing 2 of 3 makes it far from their most eggregious title shot they have given out.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#206 » by Cammo101 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:25 pm

I'd argue that Hendricks is more deserving of a rematch than Rory is of a title shot. That said, I'm sick of watching the same fights over and over again. Save immediate rematches for special circumstances and quit trying to force trilogies into an 18 month span.
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Re: UFC 181: Hendricks vs Lawler II (12/6) 

Post#207 » by REDDzone » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:39 pm

Cammo101 wrote:I'd argue that Hendricks is more deserving of a rematch than Rory is of a title shot. That said, I'm sick of watching the same fights over and over again. Save immediate rematches for special circumstances and quit trying to force trilogies into an 18 month span.


The ufc got 380-400k buys from that event, that is really successful to them these days (crazy to think non title fights like Machida/Rampage used to do ~500k, what a different world this is). They want to try to cash in on that again imo.

Another thing I have thought since Anderson first got KOed is that they realize how much money they missed out on by never making Silva/GSP or Silva/Bones. So they pounce on every possibly big rematch or trilogy as soon as possible in order to cash in so they don't lose it. They did it with Cain/JDS, doing it now with Lawler/Hendricks, etc.
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