UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping

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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#41 » by Jasen777 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:45 pm

REDDzone wrote:What do you even do with Bisping next?


Mousasi is really the only one that makes sense and is available, otherwise it'd have to be a less experienced guy like Hall or Brunson.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#42 » by REDDzone » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:52 pm

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REDDzone wrote:What do you even do with Bisping next?


Mousasi is really the only one that makes sense and is available, otherwise it'd have to be a less experienced guy like Hall or Brunson.


...aaand that's the problem, right? He was going to fight Mousasi before Silva, which would effectively mean this win gains him nothing. Sucks for him on one hand, but on the other hand, Silva is 40 (41?) and hasn't won a fight since 2012. Also, it would be easier to sell a Bisping title shot if Weidman was champ. They will never be able to sell a Rockhold/Bisping fight again, it was just so obvious that Bisping was defeated before he ever even stepped in the cage, then he caught an *ss whooping.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#43 » by REDDzone » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:53 pm

Speaking of Mousasi, anyone see his post fight interview? Says he wants Machida because Lyoto was on steroids and greased up for their first fight. Seems to have a mean streak like never before since the Hall fight. (Another great example of why rounds should be abolished, btw.)
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#44 » by CPT » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:16 pm

Rewatched the 4th, which I almost never do, and while I get the case for Bisping winning round 4, he wasn't actually landing clean hard shots very often, and Silva was. The crowd reacting to shots Bisping was throwing but not landing could have been a factor. The "who would you rather be?" test (which isn't how judges score it, but honestly should be) favours Silva, IMO.

Looking at the media scores, and while they give Bisping the 4th more often than not, people whose opinions I value (Breen, Thomas) scored it for Silva. Going to have to listen to the post-show to see if Breen is on to explain himself.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#45 » by Jasen777 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:24 pm

REDDzone wrote:...aaand that's the problem, right? He was going to fight Mousasi before Silva, which would effectively mean this win gains him nothing. Sucks for him on one hand, but on the other hand, Silva is 40 (41?) and hasn't won a fight since 2012. Also, it would be easier to sell a Bisping title shot if Weidman was champ. They will never be able to sell a Rockhold/Bisping fight again, it was just so obvious that Bisping was defeated before he ever even stepped in the cage, then he caught an *ss whooping.


It is very hard to see how he gets a shot at Rockhold. But we can blame his current position on Romero. If Romero hadn't tested positive then he would be fighting for the title and Weidman would be available. If by some miracle Bisping beat Weidman that'd be title shot worthy (and that would have gained Bisping at least something for beating Silva rather than back to Mousasi).
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#46 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:52 pm

I'll need to watch again But I had it:

Rd1: 10-9 Bisping - Very close with both fighters feeling each other out. Gave it to Bisping for cage control and aggressiveness

Rd2: 10-9 Bisping - More exchanges. Close but gave the round to Bisping for the last minute knock down.

Rd3: 10-9 Silva - Bisping has Silva's attention after the Rd2 knock down. He's more aggressive and actively stalking Bisping.

Rd4: 10-9 Bisping - Bisping stays aggressive despite getting rocked hard. Silva should be able to finish Bisping but he's clowning instead and taking his foot off the pedal.

Rd5: 10-9 Silva- Silva starts out initiating more offense with kicks which ends with a great front kick on Bisping, knocking him back. Bisping doesn't give up and continues outputting consistent offense.

Silva should've finished Bisping and walked away with talks of another title run but instead he clowned around and let Bisping survive long enough to win a UD. That said, Silva looked a step slower and his epic chin isn't what it used to be.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#47 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:00 am

CPT wrote:Rewatched the 4th, which I almost never do, and while I get the case for Bisping winning round 4, he wasn't actually landing clean hard shots very often, and Silva was. The crowd reacting to shots Bisping was throwing but not landing could have been a factor. The "who would you rather be?" test (which isn't how judges score it, but honestly should be) favours Silva, IMO.

Looking at the media scores, and while they give Bisping the 4th more often than not, people whose opinions I value (Breen, Thomas) scored it for Silva. Going to have to listen to the post-show to see if Breen is on to explain himself.

Rd4 was close when it shouldn't be. Silva should be handedly winning this round after rocking Bisping hard with that knee in the 3rd. Silva was landing at a higher percentage but I thought over all, they were both landing at a very similar rate. Bisping staybecause Silva did very little other than a few hard shots.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#48 » by REDDzone » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:25 am

CPT wrote:Rewatched the 4th, which I almost never do, and while I get the case for Bisping winning round 4, he wasn't actually landing clean hard shots very often, and Silva was. The crowd reacting to shots Bisping was throwing but not landing could have been a factor. The "who would you rather be?" test (which isn't how judges score it, but honestly should be) favours Silva, IMO.

Looking at the media scores, and while they give Bisping the 4th more often than not, people whose opinions I value (Breen, Thomas) scored it for Silva. Going to have to listen to the post-show to see if Breen is on to explain himself.


I was literally going to post the exact same thing. Probably 2/3rds of media scored it for Bisping, but honestly 2/3rds of media are just hard core fans like us tbh. Breen and Thomas actually understand fighting and can provide technical breakdowns and analysis. They both scored the fight for Silva. I really value both of their opinions, especially Thomas.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#49 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:30 am

REDDzone wrote:Isnt that tom breese tristar bro supposed to be the next great white hope? Saw he was a gigantic favorite then read that he almost got omoplatad by some dude id never heard of.


Not even close to being oma'd. Lol. The guy spammed an attempt at rubber guard. Truly lol.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#50 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:36 am

Breese is a monster btw. Not hype.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#51 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:39 am

Screw Silva for jumping on the fence and pretending to be oblivious that it wasn't stopped. **** annoying mule of a human. He knew. What is wrong with him?
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#52 » by REDDzone » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:12 am

cowboyronnie wrote:
REDDzone wrote:Isnt that tom breese tristar bro supposed to be the next great white hope? Saw he was a gigantic favorite then read that he almost got omoplatad by some dude id never heard of.


Not even close to being oma'd. Lol. The guy spammed an attempt at rubber guard. Truly lol.


I didn't watch the fight, just read that on twitter. I did read the fight was a lot closer than the odds (he was up to -1500 in some places). That's Rousey territory lol.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#53 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:21 am

cowboyronnie wrote:Screw Silva for jumping on the fence and pretending to be oblivious that it wasn't stopped. **** annoying mule of a human. He knew. What is wrong with him?

I could see how he thought he'd won. Herb stepped in right at the bell to break up the fighters and it looked like he came in to call the fight off. Then when the official was waving him down off the fence, it just looked like he was trying to get him to come down.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#54 » by Jasen777 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:00 pm

REDDzone wrote:What do you even do with Bisping next?


Well Silva wants a rematch in Brazil...
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#55 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:12 pm

I want to see Diaz/Bisping throw down
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#56 » by Headliner » Tue Mar 1, 2016 1:14 am

I'd love to see Bisping Diaz, but I think Diaz is going to go on a diet and try and get that red panty night.
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Re: UFC Fight Night (2/27): Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisping 

Post#57 » by REDDzone » Tue Mar 1, 2016 2:28 am

Jasen777 wrote:
REDDzone wrote:What do you even do with Bisping next?


Well Silva wants a rematch in Brazil...


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