UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II

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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#21 » by GameBredAPBT » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 pm

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REDDzone wrote:Despite being a bjj nerd, I don't think I've ever rooted for Jacare in any fight except against Romero (and to lulz as he strangled Camozzi time and time again). But it was good to see him get a win here, especially since I didn't really agree with all the USADA accusations that came in because he lost to Robert Whitaker lol. 4-2 since USADA and I actually thought he deserved the nod against Romero.


Wow, that's crazy. Not only is he probably the greatest BJJ practicioner to have ever made the jump, but he's the most explosive & entertaining to watch as well. Not some noodly non-athlete a la Maia/Werdum. He's got pop & fast twitch fiber.


wats crazy


That, as a BJJ nerd, you were never behind Jacare.
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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#22 » by REDDzone » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:24 pm

My post makes it sounds like I disliked him. It wasn't that, just not a guy I was a big fan of. Maybe because I liked Roger and they were rivals. It always annoyed me when he got his arm broken by Roger and he kept running out of bounds to run out the clock and win on points. Not that that would make me root against him over a decade later lol, just an annoyance.

I also think it would be a shame if Jacare never got a title shot. I can't imagine there are TOO many better guys in UFC history who fought in the ufc as long as he has and never even got a shot.

Anyway, the fact that guys like Maia aren't any more athletic than Joe Schmo yet still implement their bjj so ridiculously effectively due to superior technical ability isn't a negative to me, its by far a positive.
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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#23 » by GameBredAPBT » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:48 pm

REDDzone wrote:My post makes it sounds like I disliked him. It wasn't that, just not a guy I was a big fan of. Maybe because I liked Roger and they were rivals. It always annoyed me when he got his arm broken by Roger and he kept running out of bounds to run out the clock and win on points. Not that that would make me root against him over a decade later lol, just an annoyance.

I also think it would be a shame if Jacare never got a title shot. I can't imagine there are TOO many better guys in UFC history who fought in the ufc as long as he has and never even got a shot.

Anyway, the fact that guys like Maia aren't any more athletic than Joe Schmo yet still implement their bjj so ridiculously effectively due to superior technical ability isn't a negative to me, its by far a positive.


Yeah, Jacare has a history of dirtiness in pure BJJ competition.

Man, he should have gotten a title shot after the Mousasi win. One of the biggest travesties in contemporary UFC history. Instead, they made him fight Camozzi a second time? They more or less came out & said he wasn't marketable & they didn't want him as champ. Very sad for the fans. Even right now, I think he beats anyone outside of Whittaker. Perhaps Gastelum would KO him, but I could see Jacare overpowering him on the ground.

I hear you, that's why most people are fans of Maia. Gives pedestrians hope that they could do well in professional combat, hah (not referring to you). I just can't stand the guy. He's been involved in so many stinkers & snoozefests that I just can't be bothered to tune into his "fights" anymore. I like watching him in pure BJJ comp though.
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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#24 » by cowboyronnie » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:51 am

REDDzone wrote:Despite being a bjj nerd, I don't think I've ever rooted for Jacare in any fight except against Romero (and to lulz as he strangled Camozzi time and time again). But it was good to see him get a win here, especially since I didn't really agree with all the USADA accusations that came in because he lost to Robert Whitaker lol. 4-2 since USADA and I actually thought he deserved the nod against Romero.


It wasn't the W/Ls, it was the radical loss of physique. There's almost no question that he was sauced.
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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#25 » by GameBredAPBT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:05 am

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REDDzone wrote:Despite being a bjj nerd, I don't think I've ever rooted for Jacare in any fight except against Romero (and to lulz as he strangled Camozzi time and time again). But it was good to see him get a win here, especially since I didn't really agree with all the USADA accusations that came in because he lost to Robert Whitaker lol. 4-2 since USADA and I actually thought he deserved the nod against Romero.


It wasn't the W/Ls, it was the radical loss of physique. There's almost no question that he was sauced.


Obviously.

Also, he definitely lost vs Romero. That was one of the most disappointing fights of the modern era. Total snoozefest between two of the most exciting fighters in MW history.
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Re: UFC On Fox 27: Jacare vs Brunson II 

Post#26 » by cowboyronnie » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:51 pm

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While maintaining that mass and muscle, he also developed walk-down, destroyer muay Thai skills.

Cannot be done clean.

Compare to what he has looked like since USADA.
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