Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

Bernman · Post #1181 » by **Bernman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:30 pm

This has to be one of the most drawn out careers in MMA history now. Some guys go to lesser organizations and hang on, but he's staying in the best one and facing formidable opponents in it, many years after looking like he had a pulse. The last time he was even competitive in a fight was over 6 years ago. This is just sad.

Post #1182 » by **CPT** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:20 pm

Anyone else see this?

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/22/15030336/mma-news-ex-ufc-middleweight-champion-luke-rockhold-wants-to-fight-fabricio-werdum

Apparently Luke Rockhold really wants to fight Fabricio Werdum. They have some kind of longstanding beef dating back to Strikeforce I guess.

I'm all for it. Gotta be the most interesting fight available for either guy right now.

Bernman · Post #1183 » by **Bernman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:51 pm

That's a big weight class difference. Of course Rockhold is a big 185 and Werdum comes in well under the limit (242), but still. What's the highest Rockhold can reasonably get up to - 220? 225? Still seems a bit of a stretch, especially if Werdum gains extra weight just to have an advantage.

I wish Werdum would have been Lewis' opponent. I think they're making a mistake matching Lewis against Hunt. Hunt will be hard to take down, and probably eat or avoid a wide shot, only to deliver a sharper one of his own. They're killing off a contender and Hunt probably doesn't become one. They could have made Werdum-Lewis a #1 contender fight, and Lewis would have had a good chance to be a fresh one on account Werdum isn't powerful outside of in close, where it's tough to control a guy as powerful as Lewis, plus he's probably too tall to knee to oblivion. It's hard to get him on the ground. And if he'd reverse to put Werdum on the bottom, I don't think Werdum's bjj credentials would matter anymore. He's eating gnp.

REDDzone · Post #1184 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:03 am

Guessing Werdum swats Rockhold like a fly tbh. I doubt Werdum is going to finish Cain then turn around and lose to Cain's little buddy's little buddy.

Jasen777 · Post #1185 » by **Jasen777** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:28 am

It's not like he beat Sea Level Cain. But Rockhold got KO'd by Bisping, have to think he can't take many from a legit heavy.

REDDzone · Post #1186 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:36 am

Yea good call on that. Cain has one win in four years and that was against a dude who has lost 5 of 7, beating him doesn't even really mean anything at this point.

Post #1187 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:44 am

REDDzone wrote:That whole martial arts humbleness thing is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard in my life.

Do you guys mean the implication that all martial artists have to be humble?

All I meant is that Eddie in general is very humble when he approaches other martial artists. He always seems open to new stuff, and willing to listen.

Nothing like his conspiracy conversations.

REDDzone · Post #1188 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:51 am

Yea I agree about Eddie in general. He is ridiculously respectful of the likes of Rickson and especially Jean Jacque, hell he is even respectful of Royce and Comprido who have both been critical of him publicly in the past.

Its just one of the things Rogan always says that sounds good in theory but is really just BS. Jiu jitsu guys know themselves better, you don't find egos on the mats in jiu jitsu schools, jiu jitsu guys are always humble, "its impossible to be full of sh*t if you do jiu jitsu"...all complete BS.

Post #1189 » by **CPT** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:38 pm

REDDzone wrote:Guessing Werdum swats Rockhold like a fly tbh. I doubt Werdum is going to finish Cain then turn around and lose to Cain's little buddy's little buddy.

Probably right, but I think HW is trash, and I'm interested to see if that plays out.

I also think results of individual fights at HW mean essentially nothing. The coin flip went in Werdum's favour against Cain when they fought, and it could easily go against him if they fought again.

That being said, Werdum is one of the more skilled HWs, so it might be a worse matchup than most, where Rockhold would at least have a huge skill advantage against some random big oaf.

Post #1190 » by **Headliner** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:02 pm

When does Jones come back?

cowboyronnie · Post #1191 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:07 pm

REDDzone wrote:Is this the first time a ufc event came and went without a single post made about it on these boards? (Not counting this one - lol).

There were a lot of great fights/performances.

Joe Duffy is for real. Training in Montreal now too.
Diakiese and Marlon Vera are super dynamic and exciting.

Manuwa vs Anderson was uncomfortable. Like Leben vs Wand or something. They're both super friendly afterwards. 'Let's throw hammers, see who falls'. I don't want to watch that in 2017.

REDDzone · Post #1192 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 pm

I think Dillon Danis has been hanging around Conor too much. Claiming bellator signed him "because they needed a star", says he is the highest paid fighter in bellator now, called everyone else in the promotion bums. LOL I get what you're doing dude, but you have never fought once, if you go out there and get smashed, you will never recover from this.

Also, the mma media needs to lay off this narrative that he is in the discussion for best bjj guy in the world ("one of the very best guys in the world"). He won some tournaments at brown belt which is awesome but he's never won anything at black as far as I'm aware and he was ousted in the very first round at the Pan's last weekend by a guy who didn't make it to the podium himself. So he's great, but we aren't talking about Rafa Mendes here, at least not yet.

Post #1193 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:38 pm

I've only heard of the guy once (when he called out Jones in a Conor-esque fashion) and this is the second time and I'm already sick of him.

He's definitely going to get a bigger head and start talking even bigger when Bellator matches him up with cans or gimme's to build his name. No way he's the "highest paid" guy on the roster and be thrown to the wolves. So unfortunately, this is probably going to be the most humble interview we'll likely see from him.

REDDzone · Post #1194 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:02 am

The thing is though - he SHOULD be fighting cans and no-names, because that's what he is at this point. He has no fights - amateur or pro. He just did pans, he's doing worlds, he's doing adcc, he's doing SUG against Shields. He said he's "going to start training muay thai" in his interview on Monday. The dude doesn't even seem like he's training mma outside of rolling with Conor which is pretty much all ground anyway.

REDDzone · Post #1195 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:41 pm

Not sure where this fits but I read on the UG that David Haye said the UFC reached out to him to fight Jimi Manuwa in boxing. I wonder if that could co-main Conor/Floyd?

Post #1196 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 4:51 am

Who benefits more, a top 10 MMA fighter or a top 10 boxer if they fought each other in a boxing ring?

Being not as knowledgeable in the boxing than in MMA and from what stats I've seen from the boxing world, it would appear top 10 boxers need more "help" than a top 10 MMA fighter.

Post #1197 » by **Headliner** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 4:52 pm

If you could reshift the divisions into new weight classes, and you had to keep them at 8 or maybe increase to 9 max, what would they be?

Currently it's
125
135
145
155
170
185
205
205 -265

If I had to shift the divisions around I would probably shift to:

130
140
150
160
170
185
205
225
226-265

Jasen777 · Post #1198 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 7:50 pm

Headliner wrote:If you could reshift the divisions into new weight classes, and you had to keep them at 8 or maybe increase to 9 max, what would they be?

Just shifting weight classes isn't going to help much. Your scheme is ok, slightly easing the gap from LW to WW and giving small heavies (and some big LHW's perhaps) their own division at the expense of true 125ers facing bigger guys in splitting the talent from 2 of the thinnest divisions (HW and LHW).

If I could increase the class total to just 9, maybe

125
135
145
155
165
175
185
205
265

This helps the Big LWs/Small WWs and the Big WWs/Small MWs, diluting classes that can largely afford to be. Though people who are a perfect fit for 170 have a problem. If preventing extreme weight cutting and ensuring fair competition is the goal you really have to add more weight classes and find a way to implement something like NCAA wrestling weight rules.

Jasen777 · Post #1199 » by **Jasen777** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:17 pm

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/4/10/15232636/jon-jones-on-taking-male-enhancement-pills-i-highly-recommend-it

It’s not like Jon Jones regrets the idea of using male enhancement pills in and of itself. The former UFC light heavyweight champion has used them on several occasions and maintains to this day he enjoys the experience.

“I have been in the UFC many, many years, and I have taken sex pills several times throughout my adult life,” Jones said at a Friday press conference in Buffalo before UFC 210. “Highly recommend it, guys. f**king great. It’s awesome.”

cowboyronnie · Post #1200 » by **cowboyronnie** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:48 pm

Jasen777 wrote:http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/4/10/15232636/jon-jones-on-taking-male-enhancement-pills-i-highly-recommend-it

It’s not like Jon Jones regrets the idea of using male enhancement pills in and of itself. The former UFC light heavyweight champion has used them on several occasions and maintains to this day he enjoys the experience.

“I have been in the UFC many, many years, and I have taken sex pills several times throughout my adult life,” Jones said at a Friday press conference in Buffalo before UFC 210. “Highly recommend it, guys. f**king great. It’s awesome.”

So douchey, lol. Addressing the audience in the second person to recommend gas station sex pills. Please stop.