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REDDzone · Post #1441 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:01 pm

I was so disappointed when he had the physicist Indian guy on. The dude seemed to know his stuff like no other. But then his conclusions were not matching his evidence/claims at all (Rogan picked up on this and questioned him about the specific thing several times) and then he was talking about how James Randi refuses to pay the money for the skeptics challenge thing. That is just utter bs. He was basically saying telepathy is real but Randi needs the transfer to be near perfect to pay. This is crazy, there is record of the attempts at the challenge and these people almost always score worse than chance (which in itself is pretty remarkable)!

Anyway, I stopped listening there. When Joe Rogan (no offense) is able enough to rip apart your 'science' to shreds without even breaking a sweat, there is an issue there imo.

REDDzone · Post #1442 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:39 pm

Lavar cut.

cowboyronnie · Post #1443 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:09 am

No excuses, seemingly, unless that's just a great strategy to leverage the UFC into doing this. That said, I really think fighters should be allowed to dope for injuries. Nothing within 4 months of the fight or something. But I'd hate just anyone on the roster being tested even if no upcoming fight.

Dr. Margaret Goodman tells Bloody Elbow that VADA has offered to oversee an extensive blood and urine testing program for their fighters with no administrative fees.

Recent months have seen a noticeable uptick in the number of positive drug tests in the UFC. Over the last 6 months there have been nine disclosed positive drug tests in the world's largest fight promotion.

I reached out to Dr. Margaret Goodman of the Voluntary Anti Doping Agencey earlier today and asked if the UFC has asked for any assistance from VADA. Dr. Goodman provided the following statement:

On 2/16/13, VADA sent a proposal to the UFC addressed to Lorenzo, Dana and Frank that VADA would help them set up a state-of-the art PED program with unannounced random testing for blood and urine. We indicated that there would be no adminsitrative charges at least for the first year. This would include education courses. We would use a WADA-accredited lab, certified doping collection officers and the results would go to the fighter, the UFC, the ABC/the official MMA record-keeper for the ABC, and the commission where the fighter held a license. I believe the UFC would save money, improve public confidence that fighters are competing clean, injuries would be less with fighters competing less on PEDs, and overall safety would improve. We also mentioned that although VADA no longer has THC in our testing panel, we would include it at their request. The testing would include EPO, hGH, CIR. To date, we have had no response, but we remain happy to discuss.

In short, this means that the UFC would have no fees to pay for this drug testing other than collection fees and the testing panel -- again, only from WADA-accredited labs. The actual program would be overseen and administered by VADA along with the education portion. So, VADA would basically make no money off of the UFC as they don't own or run the WADA-accredited labs that would receive the collection/testing panel fees.

This is a very serious offer and unannounced random blood and urine testing at basically the cutting edge of sport testing with a low cost could seriously benefit the UFC if they're serious about having the cleanest, safest sport possible. And, with more and more positive drug tests lately, could keep public confidence high.

Of course, year round random testing may lead to more positive drug tests before fights. Which would mean more cancelled bouts. So it is still to be seen if that is something the UFC has any interest in risking.

REDDzone · Post #1444 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:19 pm

Did you guys see the youtube vid circling mma forums where the random AC dude came and said they were allowing an exception "off the record" "just for the title fight" where they gave Diaz/GSP leeway in making weight and they could weigh in up to 170.9. Diaz complains in the video that 'they didn't tell him this yesterday'. Watch for yourself, I watched on my phone and it was lagging so I may have missed something.

SDM · Post #1445 » by **SDM** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:26 pm

I thought they were allowed to weigh up to 171.0?

Anyway, not sure why it would matter to Diaz. He's always 168-169, IIRC.

REDDzone · Post #1446 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:48 pm

There isn't any leeway in title fights is there? And the guy in the video says its off the record. IDK, watch the video.

Post #1447 » by **Shaazzam** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:09 pm

title fights have to be 170 . non title fights get the extra pound

SDM · Post #1448 » by **SDM** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:11 pm

Gotcha, thanks.

NZB2323 · Post #1449 » by **NZB2323** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:43 pm

Fellow Wisconsinites: the undefeated Mike Rhodes, who trains out of Roufusport, is headlining the main event tonight in RFA, which will be shown on AXS TV.

REDDzone · Post #1450 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Sergio fights this weekend too, at least according to Combat Corner.

NZB2323 · Post #1451 » by **NZB2323** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:52 pm

REDDzone wrote:Sergio fights this weekend too, at least according to Combat Corner.

Is he fighting in Milwaukee? Do you know if it'll be on TV at all?

REDDzone · Post #1452 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:53 pm

Sorry man. Its next weekend but it is indeed in Milwaukee. NAFC event. Another guy fighting as well. Barber (James?). Not sure if he's rufousport or not, but he was on combat corner email so assume he's a Milwaukee guy...

REDDzone · Post #1453 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:19 am

Bendo lost at the Pans today (bjj). I read conflicting accounts. One said he was armbarred, the other said he was almost armbarred and lost on points. I'll try to figure it out.

SDM · Post #1454 » by **SDM** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:25 pm

Melvin Ghee-yard is back at Jackson's.

Blackzillians = suckage

Cammo101 · Post #1455 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:05 pm

Rumble Johnson seems to be the only guy who has moved to the Blackzillians and actually started winning.

cowboyronnie · Post #1456 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:58 pm

Vitor ^, but other than that, yeah, it's ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Athletics

So many of these guys are losing.

REDDzone · Post #1457 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Article on the UG is saying that, despite his twitter announcement, Guillard's return to Jackson's was rejected by a team vote.

LOL!

SDM · Post #1458 » by **SDM** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:30 pm

There's a guy on Blackzillians named "Bonesaw" Hyman.

Post #1459 » by **kdawg32086** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:58 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:Vitor ^, but other than that, yeah, it's ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Athletics

So many of these guys are losing.

A ton of guys from Jackson's have been losing too.

Post #1460 » by **blkout** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:29 am

SDM wrote:There's a guy on Blackzillians named "Bonesaw" Hyman.

of course there is