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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1661 » by Susan » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:55 pm

Holland is 170 - stop giving him 185 fights.

Legit 13 pounds off with no real training camp. He's a problem at 170.
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Post#1662 » by Dupp » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:57 pm

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Post#1663 » by Susan » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:59 pm

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Post#1664 » by cowboyronnie » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm

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REDDzone wrote:I absolutely cannot believe Sam Alvey is still a thing.


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Gotta be the worst record in modern UFC for someone who didn't once throw a kick jumping off a fence.
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Post#1665 » by cowboyronnie » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm

Kevin Holland plummeting like there's a Susan thread dedicated to him.
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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1666 » by Susan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:41 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:Kevin Holland plummeting like there's a Susan thread dedicated to him.


He's just in the wrong weight class.

His TDD + BJJ to get up would be decent if he wasn't at such a terrible strength disadvantage. Those bigger guys just stay tight on his hips and don't let him create space. He's too lanky/skinny to explode up and just loses rounds left and right.

He wobbled both Marvin and Brunson - at 170 he's knocking people out with those shots and isn't getting so stuck in grappling exchanges.
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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1667 » by REDDzone » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:10 pm

IDK wtf Holland's gameplan even is. He goes to fullguard for awhile, then he goes to that weird inverted position like he's armbarring (but he isn't controlling the arm or actually threatening anything) and gets punched in the face for awhile before eventually going back to full guard.

Then in the very short sequences before being taken down easily he just kind of throws lunging strikes occasionally.
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Post#1668 » by REDDzone » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:22 pm

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Gotta be the worst record in modern UFC for someone who didn't once throw a kick jumping off a fence.


LOL you already ran off one of our like 4-5 active posters on this board with this stuff. So weird to still be at it even after that. I'm not going anywhere tho. 8-)
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Post#1669 » by REDDzone » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:48 pm

I gotta eat some crow on Mackenzie Dern. The talent was always obvious but I questioned her discipline early on. She missed weight a few times, and even when she made it she was carrying around too much extra weight. Props to her for getting her nutrition right because nowadays she's a lean mean fighting machine. Even more impressive that she did it all so quickly after giving birth.
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Post#1670 » by cowboyronnie » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:24 pm

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Gotta be the worst record in modern UFC for someone who didn't once throw a kick jumping off a fence.


LOL you already ran off one of our like 4-5 active posters on this board with this stuff. So weird to still be at it even after that. I'm not going anywhere tho. 8-)


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Post#1671 » by cowboyronnie » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:26 pm

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cowboyronnie wrote:Kevin Holland plummeting like there's a Susan thread dedicated to him.


He's just in the wrong weight class.

His TDD + BJJ to get up would be decent if he wasn't at such a terrible strength disadvantage. Those bigger guys just stay tight on his hips and don't let him create space. He's too lanky/skinny to explode up and just loses rounds left and right.

He wobbled both Marvin and Brunson - at 170 he's knocking people out with those shots and isn't getting so stuck in grappling exchanges.


There was a point in the 5th round where he hurt Marvin, who ended up on his knees, and yet Marvin was still able to lurch and take Holland down. I mean, he started the shot from his knees and Holland couldn't defend it.

Unless he dedicates himself like Cerrone or whatever, he's just never going to have the necessary wrestling. And he's too big for 170. He needs an intermediary division. That's not on him but it's going to hamper his success.
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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1672 » by Susan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:47 am

REDDzone wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:
Gotta be the worst record in modern UFC for someone who didn't once throw a kick jumping off a fence.


LOL you already ran off one of our like 4-5 active posters on this board with this stuff. So weird to still be at it even after that. I'm not going anywhere tho. 8-)


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Post#1673 » by Susan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:08 am

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Susan wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:Kevin Holland plummeting like there's a Susan thread dedicated to him.


He's just in the wrong weight class.

His TDD + BJJ to get up would be decent if he wasn't at such a terrible strength disadvantage. Those bigger guys just stay tight on his hips and don't let him create space. He's too lanky/skinny to explode up and just loses rounds left and right.

He wobbled both Marvin and Brunson - at 170 he's knocking people out with those shots and isn't getting so stuck in grappling exchanges.


There was a point in the 5th round where he hurt Marvin, who ended up on his knees, and yet Marvin was still able to lurch and take Holland down. I mean, he started the shot from his knees and Holland couldn't defend it.

Unless he dedicates himself like Cerrone or whatever, he's just never going to have the necessary wrestling. And he's too big for 170. He needs an intermediary division. That's not on him but it's going to hamper his success.


He's 183 weighing in for the past two fights. 13 pounds to cut ain't **** at his size and when you're fighting a dude like Marvin who's 20+ lbs heavier than you, you're going to look like crap.

Look at Izzy/Jan - really similar type of fight. Izzy doesn't get dominated like that on the ground at 185 but he just got schoolyard bullied for 2 rounds without any semblance of an answer. That difference in size and a slight technical advantage is almost impossible for you to overcome.
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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1674 » by REDDzone » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:08 am

Susan wrote:
REDDzone wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:
Gotta be the worst record in modern UFC for someone who didn't once throw a kick jumping off a fence.


LOL you already ran off one of our like 4-5 active posters on this board with this stuff. So weird to still be at it even after that. I'm not going anywhere tho. 8-)


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I'm here for messing with the WI MMA scene because I have to root for Andy Dalton and you have Aaron Rdogers. It's only fair.


I watched that video but have no idea what she's talking about. Is she getting at some weird I hate Communist sh*t or what? I don't care what Rose or her creep bf have to say tbh. And I'm not from WI and have no idea who Andy Dalton is.
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Post#1675 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:50 pm

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I watched that video but have no idea what she's talking about. Is she getting at some weird I hate Communist sh*t or what? I don't care what Rose or her pedo bf have to say tbh. And I'm not from WI and have no idea who Andy Dalton is.


Her family is from Lithuania, so she is on some anti-communist tip.

It sounds like America has been fantastic for her. Victimized throughout her childhood, groomed by a pedophilic creep attracted to precisely that victimhood, makes her living geting spiked on her head. Freedom.
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Post#1676 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:52 pm

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cowboyronnie wrote:
Susan wrote:
He's just in the wrong weight class.

His TDD + BJJ to get up would be decent if he wasn't at such a terrible strength disadvantage. Those bigger guys just stay tight on his hips and don't let him create space. He's too lanky/skinny to explode up and just loses rounds left and right.

He wobbled both Marvin and Brunson - at 170 he's knocking people out with those shots and isn't getting so stuck in grappling exchanges.


There was a point in the 5th round where he hurt Marvin, who ended up on his knees, and yet Marvin was still able to lurch and take Holland down. I mean, he started the shot from his knees and Holland couldn't defend it.

Unless he dedicates himself like Cerrone or whatever, he's just never going to have the necessary wrestling. And he's too big for 170. He needs an intermediary division. That's not on him but it's going to hamper his success.


He's 183 weighing in for the past two fights. 13 pounds to cut ain't **** at his size and when you're fighting a dude like Marvin who's 20+ lbs heavier than you, you're going to look like crap.

Look at Izzy/Jan - really similar type of fight. Izzy doesn't get dominated like that on the ground at 185 but he just got schoolyard bullied for 2 rounds without any semblance of an answer. That difference in size and a slight technical advantage is almost impossible for you to overcome.


Fair. I didn't know he was so light. But he's probably cut and dieted somewhat to get down to 183. That's not his walk around. So it would be an additional 13 pounds.

I can't picture any 170er as big as him. Chiesa, maybe? He'd dwarf Usman, I think.
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Re: Non-threadworthy UFC Events Thread 

Post#1677 » by REDDzone » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:47 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:
REDDzone wrote:
I watched that video but have no idea what she's talking about. Is she getting at some weird I hate Communist sh*t or what? I don't care what Rose or her pedo bf have to say tbh. And I'm not from WI and have no idea who Andy Dalton is.


Her family is from Lithuania, so she is on some anti-communist tip.

It sounds like America has been fantastic for her. Victimized throughout her childhood, groomed by a pedophilic creep attracted to precisely that victimhood, makes her living geting spiked on her head. Freedom.


True but did America give her the magic powers (ESP) or was she born with those?
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Post#1678 » by Jasen777 » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:49 pm

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Post#1679 » by Dupp » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:58 am

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Post#1680 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:13 am

Robert vs Izzy next fight

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