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[Susan]

Jose Aldo is timeless. 17 years in and he's still top 3 in his division.

[Dupp]

Dunno bout top 3, we’ll see. Definitely the most stacked division in the sport.

Yan, Sterling, Cory, TJ, Aldo, Font, Chito, Merab, fading Moraes and even sugar. Sure I missed some but it’s stacked as.


As for the fight. Aldo being so dominant wasn’t something I expected. Since losing to Conor he’s been better than Conor. Crazy.

Probably could of finished the fight. His cardio is an issue. He wont win a title for that reason.

His leg kicks are just so brutal. Makes no sense he had to be told to go for it. Must have some bad injuries or something because with a jab heavy guy that should have been the plan going in.

Great fight though, didn’t win fotn.. lol. Glad Curtis got a bonus. Great dude.

[Susan]

Dunno bout top 3, we’ll see. Definitely the most stacked division in the sport.

Yan, Sterling, Cory, TJ, Aldo, Font, Chito, Merab, fading Moraes and even sugar. Sure I missed some but it’s stacked as.


As for the fight. Aldo being so dominant wasn’t something I expected. Since losing to Conor he’s been better than Conor. Crazy.

Probably could of finished the fight. His cardio is an issue. He wont win a title for that reason.

His leg kicks are just so brutal. Makes no sense he had to be told to go for it. Must have some bad injuries or something because with a jab heavy guy that should have been the plan going in.

Great fight though, didn’t win fotn.. lol. Glad Curtis got a bonus. Great dude.

He'd be right in the mix at 145 as well. Korean Zombie is #4 in that division.

[Shaazzam]

Watching Aldo now, that body shot he landed in the first round was terrible.

[cowboyronnie]

But Aldo beat Chito and Font straight up, and Sterling - weird to say - is unproven. Only Yan, Cory, and TJ should be considered better at 135.

Sugar isn't in the top 15.

Dunno bout top 3, we’ll see. Definitely the most stacked division in the sport.

Yan, Sterling, Cory, TJ, Aldo, Font, Chito, Merab, fading Moraes and even sugar. Sure I missed some but it’s stacked as.


As for the fight. Aldo being so dominant wasn’t something I expected. Since losing to Conor he’s been better than Conor. Crazy.

Probably could of finished the fight. His cardio is an issue. He wont win a title for that reason.

His leg kicks are just so brutal. Makes no sense he had to be told to go for it. Must have some bad injuries or something because with a jab heavy guy that should have been the plan going in.

Great fight though, didn’t win fotn.. lol. Glad Curtis got a bonus. Great dude.

[Dupp]

But Aldo beat Chito and Font straight up, and Sterling - weird to say - is unproven. Only Yan, Cory, and TJ should be considered better at 135.

Sugar isn’t top 15

Sugar was just listed showing the depth of the division, not saying he’s better than Aldo. Dude is definitely top 15 though, rankings aside. He’s supremely talented.

I wasn’t saying chito was better but i actually think the 2 are close. Think chito could beat him in a rematch potentially. But again I was just listing top guys in the division coz it’s **** deep.

Anyway it’s not inconceivable that TJ, Yan and Sterling are all better than Aldo. At the same time it shouldn’t surprise anyone if they’re not.


We’ll see how it plays out but it’s looking like Yan might be a bit ahead of everyone in the most deep division there is.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Why did Aldo Call out Dillashaw?

[Susan]

Why did Aldo Call out Dillashaw?

Because he's **** game.

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Yan put it on Sterling, Aldo had no path to beating Yan but he kept up with him decently for a few rounds. Sterling was getting worked badly. He's got zero chance at beating Yan and he knows it.

[cowboyronnie]

O'Malley has said he's not interested in fights where he might lose, given that he can cruise on ones where he's dunking on scrubs. If you're literally not interested in competition, you shouldn't be in the rankings. That's just some Patrick Bateman / Bellator ****.

[Dupp]

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

[cowboyronnie]

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

It's obscene to be showboating and gloating over the bodies of KOd scrubs. That's not "doing the right thing".

The same applies to douchebags like MVP (and the Bellator organization, really).

Tom Aspenal is someone taking things slow, waiting to take on top competition. But he's also not styling on unconscious bodies or throwing **** bolos to humiliate others.

I understand your point about smart business. The fighters do not owe the org or the fans anything. I'm OK with Woodley, Rampage, Bob Sapp, and others milking their names while barely showing up... I think that is the smart thing. No problem with it. But when it's you being a prick to an outmatched opponent, who is being exploited by the org via you as its proxy, I don't think there is anything admirable there. That's just cowardice.

If you're not willing to take a beating, but eager to dole out non-competitive beatings, you're a coward.

[Susan]

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

There's a delineation that's happening where guys are choosing to be entertainers over fighters.

Good for Sean and his money, I want him to get it - but there's a difference between what he's doing and the career that somebody like Jose Aldo has had. He's gone down the Conor path, where he just wants to punk random dudes, not test himself against game opponents. Kris Moutinho was a laborer who was working something like 60 hours/week and training part time who got called in for a late notice fight but if you put Sean up against ANY game opponent, he's going to find a way out mentally pretty freaking quickly because he's made it clear he's not cut from that cloth.

I fully want Sean to get every penny he can from fighting but at the same time fully understand that he has no business being talked about in the top ten because of what CBR and I are talking about.

[Dupp]

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

It's obscene to be showboating and gloating over the bodies of KOd scrubs. That's not "doing the right thing".

The same applies to douchebags like MVP (and the Bellator organization, really).

Tom Aspenal is someone taking things slow, waiting to take on top competition. But he's also not styling on unconscious bodies or throwing **** bolos to humiliate others.

I understand your point about smart business. The fighters do not owe the org or the fans anything. I'm OK with Woodley, Rampage, Bob Sapp, and others milking their names while barely showing up... I think that is the smart thing. No problem with it. But when it's you being a prick to an outmatched opponent, who is being exploited by the org via you as its proxy, I don't think there is anything admirable there. That's just cowardice.

If you're not willing to take a beating, but eager to dole out non-competitive beatings, you're a coward.

Think you’re being extremely sensitive. Not like suga talks a tonne of **** and is super disrespectful. He says some stuff and but he also says nice things about his opponents.

Most of what he says is just little trolling thins to rile fans up like you. Unranked champ etc. mostly he’s pretty respectful so I dunno what the big deal is.

Again, he’s smart business. What’s this his 6th ufc fight after contender series? Debut co main and then 5 ppv cards. Even this card there’s Cruz and Pedro fighting behind him on the pre lim so he’s something right.

Like I said, I don’t get the big deal. Don’t think he’s been overly disrespectful to anyone. He’s called out ranked guys before. It’s not like he won’t actually fight a ranked fighter.
fighting who he’s fighting is fine. He’s leaning it to the ranked thing because he knows it gets people fired up. It’ll come, he’s still fresh.

[Dupp]

Regarding Suga Show - dude is beating up the dude who painted my living room last week. He's a mirage. Top 10 dudes break him and make him look like a front running bully.

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

There's a delineation that's happening where guys are choosing to be entertainers over fighters.

Good for Sean and his money, I want him to get it - but there's a difference between what he's doing and the career that somebody like Jose Aldo has had. He's gone down the Conor path, where he just wants to punk random dudes, not test himself against game opponents. Kris Moutinho was a laborer who was working something like 60 hours/week and training part time who got called in for a late notice fight but if you put Sean up against ANY game opponent, he's going to find a way out mentally pretty freaking quickly because he's made it clear he's not cut from that cloth.

I fully want Sean to get every penny he can from fighting but at the same time fully understand that he has no business being talked about in the top ten because of what CBR and I are talking about.

The Conor path is the right path though. These guys don’t get paid like professional athletes. The pay is really pathetic and the risk is like no other sport. So get that money at the least risk possible.

Even with that said he wants to be a champion so bigger fights are gonna happen. So even from a fan view point who cares? The fights will come. (I believe Paiva is ranked 15). Seans young, what’s the rush? It’s giving him great leverage into his next contract that he’s such a draw fighting no bodies. It’s actually working out great for him financially because he’s gonna get paid a **** load more next contract and he makes lots outside of the ufc.

The fight with kris is really no fault of Sean’s. Late notice replacement and he’s said positive things about him after the fight too. What’s he suppose to do?


I get the questions about his mentality. His loss to chito for one. But he can still prove himself. What he is is an extremely gifted striker so if he does have some of that toughness you’re questioning he might do better than you think.


Don’t get me wrong I want to see him fight someone a lot better too but I just don’t see the big deal, think it’ll come. He’s polarising but I don’t get it. All the stuff he says that get people up in arms is clearly said with that intent.

[Susan]

Nonsense. Dude will prove he’s top 10 caliber.


So weird to see so many people care about suga and his opponents. Stuff like “front runner” . Dudes doing the right thing. Ufc take advantage of so many fighters and people apparently care about fighter pay. So why not just fight lower ranked guys until he gets a new deal. He only on ppvs so he’s obviously a big draw. He’s doing smart business.

There's a delineation that's happening where guys are choosing to be entertainers over fighters.

Good for Sean and his money, I want him to get it - but there's a difference between what he's doing and the career that somebody like Jose Aldo has had. He's gone down the Conor path, where he just wants to punk random dudes, not test himself against game opponents. Kris Moutinho was a laborer who was working something like 60 hours/week and training part time who got called in for a late notice fight but if you put Sean up against ANY game opponent, he's going to find a way out mentally pretty freaking quickly because he's made it clear he's not cut from that cloth.

I fully want Sean to get every penny he can from fighting but at the same time fully understand that he has no business being talked about in the top ten because of what CBR and I are talking about.

The Conor path is the right path though. These guys don’t get paid like professional athletes. The pay is really pathetic and the risk is like no other sport. So get that money at the least risk possible.

Even with that said he wants to be a champion so bigger fights are gonna happen. So even from a fan view point who cares? The fights will come. (I believe Paiva is ranked 15). Seans young, what’s the rush? It’s giving him great leverage into his next contract that he’s such a draw fighting no bodies. It’s actually working out great for him financially because he’s gonna get paid a **** load more next contract and he makes lots outside of the ufc.

The fight with kris is really no fault of Sean’s. Late notice replacement and he’s said positive things about him after the fight too. What’s he suppose to do?


I get the questions about his mentality. His loss to chito for one. But he can still prove himself. What he is is an extremely gifted striker so if he does have some of that toughness you’re questioning he might do better than you think.


Don’t get me wrong I want to see him fight someone a lot better too but I just don’t see the big deal, think it’ll come. He’s polarising but I don’t get it. All the stuff he says that get people up in arms is clearly said with that intent.

I don't even have a problem with his mouth - I just know it when I see it. Just watched him on Logan Paul's podcast for about ten minutes - he's talking about partying and all that **** - he's going to flame out.

https://youtu.be/ApI5tmr4mBc

Watch this - this dude hasn't climbed the top of the ladder yet and is getting dragged in this lifestyle already.

Watch on YouTube

[Dupp]

Honestly have no interest in watching that. The partying thing is a whole other issue. At the same time though he was ion the mma hour today saying he goes to bed at 9.30 every night.

If he doesn’t have it like you say then he’s 100% doing the right thing career wise.

But anyway. Doesn’t really matter, I think he’s ok but besides that I’m pretty neutral on him.

[Susan]

Honestly have no interest in watching that. The partying thing is a whole other issue. At the same time though he was ion the mma hour today saying he goes to bed at 9.30 every night.

If he doesn’t have it like you say then he’s 100% doing the right thing career wise.

But anyway. Doesn’t really matter, I think he’s ok but besides that I’m pretty neutral on him.

I mean in one interview I quickly learned he got into fighting so he could get girls (when he was 16) and then in one vlog I could see him still acting like a lame around girls and partying with some lame ass dudes and 6ix9ine.

One reason why I'm into this sport is because the stories that these fighters have and learning about their motivations for pushing themselves so far. Sean clearly did have something special, he wanted to change his life and get a bit of fame/notoriety but to reach that upper echelon in the sport, you need to have the right people around you and the right motivations and it just appears to me that he's going down other paths now and isn't fully focused on this fight game **** to the level that it would take.

He'll get in there with a real one soon enough.

[cowboyronnie]

This weekend's card has some of the least skilled, most bound-up, most un-fluid fighters in the sport. It's remarkable. (A lot of them are also actually just straight-up ugly people too.) Everyone moves like a HW, even the dudes who are 145-170. Elkins, Belal, Meerschart... oof. This is gonna be wretched.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Good fights tonight?

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Decent fights so far. Main event next.