Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

[REDDzone]

That's why I was careful to say "at the time" of the fight. Is a 25-9 Guida so bad that "middling" is flattering? IDK.

Maynard was a good fighter and that loss was avenged. Rory/Kim were way too big for Nate, fights took place at WW. Benson/Thomson/RDA/Conor are or were champions.

Joe Daddy was 30-10 at time of the fight but yes on the downslope. I guess it just depends how you define middling.

[REDDzone]

I was thinking about this after Mousasi's win this past weekend, I think there is something about those guys who fight in multiple sports and all over the world that really grows their legend. Mousasi has more title belts than I have regular belts and he fought kickboxing. Same goes for a guy like Overeem who has losses but obviously is a f*cking legend. Eddie Alvarez, underground king. Nick Diaz. Barnett.

[Jasen777]

RDA on cutting for his last 2 LW fights -

“I passed out three times and I went out and went back,” dos Anjos said. “I did that probably three times. One of the times, I was out for three minutes. I almost, when I fell back on the bathtub, I almost hit the back of my head on the sink. I could have died. And that was a fight that I shouldn’t fight. But everything happens for a reason. I did it and I lost and I learned a lot from it.”

Dos Anjos fought one more time at 155, what ended up being a decision loss to Tony Ferguson. That, too, was a bad weight cut, he said.

“After I made weight, I couldn’t stand up for like 40 minutes to one hour,” dos Anjos said. “I lied down on the ground, on the hallway of the hotel, by my room, by my room’s door. The guy said, ‘OK, Rafa, it’s time to make weight.’ I couldn’t stand up. I just couldn’t walk. But I did it.”

[Jasen777]

Dana White planning to get rid of early weigh-ins

[duppyy]

Dana White planning to get rid of early weigh-ins

Nobody happy about it. Dana making changes just for his kids (Dern, Till, etc).

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/5/17430248/pros-react-to-dana-white-reversing-course-on-ufc-morning-weigh-ins

[NO-KG-AI]

So Yair is back, and he's fighting Zabit.

[lilfishi22]

What a weird saga

[Jasen777]

So Yair is back, and he's fighting Zabit.

what

[lilfishi22]

So Yair is back, and he's fighting Zabit.

what

Apparently Yair got a mutual friend of Sean Selby's to set up a meeting, they talked it through and now he's fighting Zabit.

Maybe he didn't like the offers out there?

[Bernman]

Yair bowed down and kissed the ring. That's all they wanted. Now the next guy will fall in line.

[REDDzone]

Ariel teasing on his show that there is "a lot" more to this story than the public is privy too. He also said he hopes it all comes out one day but he isn't able to share since he was told the story in confidence. The impression I got, knowing Ariel, is that it would paint the UFC in a negative light but that is 100% just my own opinion.

[REDDzone]

Dana White planning to get rid of early weigh-ins

Nobody happy about it. Dana making changes just for his kids (Dern, Till, etc).

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/5/17430248/pros-react-to-dana-white-reversing-course-on-ufc-morning-weigh-ins

EA going off and making some great points. That's a great point re Till, Dern, etc. Good call.

God forbid the dude who cuts so much weight that he went temporarily blind not have an extra couple of hours to do it lol. You think he was losing an extra 5 lbs? Or Dern was losing the extra 7 or whatever it was?

The commission stopped Max, he was still cutting.

Both Romero and Emmett basically said they just stopped cutting to not drain themselves too much for their fights, so it wouldn't have helped in those situations either. Who exactly would this have helped?

That's Dern, Till, Max, Romero, Emmett that this rule would have not remedied. Who else is there?

[Susan]

Dana White planning to get rid of early weigh-ins

Nobody happy about it. Dana making changes just for his kids (Dern, Till, etc).

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/5/17430248/pros-react-to-dana-white-reversing-course-on-ufc-morning-weigh-ins

EA going off and making some great points. That's a great point re Till, Dern, etc. Good call.

God forbid the dude who cuts so much weight that he went temporarily blind not have an extra couple of hours to do it lol. You think he was losing an extra 5 lbs? Or Dern was losing the extra 7 or whatever it was?

The commission stopped Max, he was still cutting.

Both Romero and Emmett basically said they just stopped cutting to not drain themselves too much for their fights, so it wouldn't have helped in those situations either. Who exactly would this have helped?

That's Dern, Till, Max, Romero, Emmett that this rule would have not remedied. Who else is there?

Half of those fighters (Emmett, Romero and Max) had a short notice to get to that weight. This problem is a problem because the UFC keeps putting in people on short notice fights.

Till is just too big for the weightclass and will only continue to get bigger. Dern is a special case all to herself. No rules should be changed because she's 1000% unprofessional.

[Bernman]

I never knew fighters were so passionate about morning weigh-ins. I'll amend my view on them because they go through the experience.

This is an overreaction by Dana to think he's resolving a recent problem, but I don't know if it's helping the fighters who missed weight badly. It will prompt them to draw out the weight cutting process too so it's not as much of an advantage. If anything it deters them a bit more.

Maybe keep the morning weigh in and do the draconian 10% extraction for every lb over the limit. It is the structure's fault in the sense that a certain % of people unfortunately need punitive laws to force them to be honorable.

[Bernman]

PFL is starting their million dollar tourneys on NBCSN tomorrow. It's a deep card, albeit a so-so main card. I think a big improvement on what WSOF were churning out though.

http://www.sherdog.com/events/Professional-Fighters-League-PFL-1-2018-Regular-Season-67131

Some promising Eastern Europeans, 17-0 decision-machine Andre Harrison, Lance the Party Palmer, old school Bellator match between Galvao and Malegarie, some UFC vets like Bahoso all the way near the bottom. Nice fluffer for this weekend's big UFC event. Love mid-week MMA of some quality you can dvr. Miss when WEC and BFC used to do it.

[Jasen777]

I never knew fighters were so passionate about morning weigh-ins. I'll amend my view on them because they go through the experience.

Some fighters like them because more time to recover. Some don't because having to do the last cut in the morning messes their schedule up and it's less time after flying to wherever to get the final weight off.

[qm22]

I never knew fighters were so passionate about morning weigh-ins. I'll amend my view on them because they go through the experience.

Some fighters like them because more time to recover. Some don't because having to do the last cut in the morning messes their schedule up and it's less time after flying to wherever to get the final weight off.

Yeah I think either way has it's pros/cons for certain people. The only way it is going to work well for most is to have the fighters be closer to their normal size, regardless of morning or not. People miss weight in the morning by trying to cut too much. The complaints by Alvarez and others about having less recovery time is also based on the assumption that they need more recovery, and so is also ultimately from cutting too much. I'm close to sick of watching fights where size and weight(cut) has such a decisive factor on outcomes so not sure if I'm against the morning weigh in.

If unhappiness of afternoon weigh ins is conditional on them cutting extreme weight, it pressures them move up in weight for safety, which would be good if they did that. But they probably will still try to compete at an advantageous weight class even at the risk of health, which would be their own fault but still should be avoided. Needs a more broad approach than just changing weigh-in times.

[qm22]

Yair bowed down and kissed the ring. That's all they wanted. Now the next guy will fall in line.

Does that mean his contract demands were part of a compromise or he did it entirely the UFC's way?

I'm not sure it paints the UFC as powerful because it was seen Yair was fine, getting plenty of offers apparently, and the UFC didn't follow through. It will seem that even if they fire you publicly it's still just a negotiating tactic, and their words aren't serious altogether. The whole thing looks like Dana had a temper tantrum, considering the "real news" tweet and then flip-flopping. Hard to see that as good for him.

On a side-note I wonder if fighters would ever sue Dana/UFC for defamation or they waived that. The way Dana throws them under the bus and tries to attack them hurts their value, I'd think if they are independent contractors that is grounds for a lawsuit. I'm not lawsuit-happy at all but I am kind of curious why it doesn't happen in a case where Dana says something, if a lie, which hurts a contractor's value.

[Susan]

Even for afternoon weigh-ins, the strategy is to cut everything that night before and just suffer through the morning/entire day at that state. Could be wrong but that's what I've seen.

[Jasen777]

The only way it is going to work well for most is to have the fighters be closer to their normal size, regardless of morning or not.

Yes, the badly need something like the NCAA wrestling system. But there's no one in charge of the sport enough to do that.