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Post #201 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:06 am

REDDzone wrote:Apparently Sterling got stretchered off. Man I hope he's okay.

That was a really scary KO and fall.

REDDzone · Post #202 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:08 am

Seems like a lot of scary situations lately...Sterling, Overeem. I know there was another that I can remember posting about on here. This is in Cali though right? So at least the weight cutting wouldn't have been too extreme due to their regulations.

Edit: the other one I was thinking of may have been Firas brother?

Susan · Post #203 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:34 am

**** Jason Knight. Dude bites the guy? What the hell man.

Susan · Post #204 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 am

What the hell, Ortega is coming out to DMX?

REDDzone · Post #205 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:55 am

Ahh who to root for. Don't like rooting for juicers but also hate rooting for boring. Not that Cub himself is boring, just the prospect of him winning as a gatekeeper is boring.

REDDzone · Post #206 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:56 am

Cub probably saved by the Bell there.

Susan · Post #207 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:00 am

Yeesh. I have NO idea how Ortega keeps on winning but he does.

REDDzone · Post #208 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:01 am

Cub seems to always lose the big fights and this was the last fight on his ufc deal. Sick adjustment by Ortega, climbing Cubs hips in midair and switching up his grip to tighten the choke.

cowboyronnie · Post #209 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:46 pm

It's ridiculous that Knight is able to wear long, grippy cloth sleaves on both knees and both shins. They're not even protective, there's nothing inside of the sleave. Just grips of cloth on his legs.

There's no subtlety as to why he's doing it. The guy is a t-choke machine. How is this allowed?

REDDzone · Post #210 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:46 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:It's ridiculous that Knight is able to wear long, grippy cloth sleaves on both knees and both shins. They're not even protective, there's nothing inside of the sleave. Just grips of cloth on his legs.

There's no subtlety as to why he's doing it. The guy is a t-choke machine. How is this allowed?

I dont even recall what you're talking about but what is your argument as to why it's so ridiculous? You still get to see plenty of bros banging even if some lone dude wears short spats.

Edited 50 times due to phones stupid autocorrect.

Bernman · Post #211 » by **Bernman** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:16 pm

I think the argument is that it's akin to a gi, which is illegal. But this was more impeding to his movement, to the point he was compelled to take them off between rounds. Knee encumbrances are terrible for sports. It's like you're giving yourself a sprained mcl.

Bernman · Post #212 » by **Bernman** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:31 pm

I think with Anders you're seeing what happens when an elite athlete crosses over and has sufficient techniques. His game is to pretty much come in and throw Rampage-esque bungalows which scares the s**t out of a vast majority of his opponents and puts them on the hyper-defensive. Then he just powers you down and beats you up. The extent of his ground game is pretty much knowing the passing positions offensively and defensive to stay out of subs and deliver punishment to you. And he has the cardio to go 3-5.

Sucks about Aljo, but reality is probably that's a less damaging way to lose than getting a prolonged beating, as gnarly as that appeared. Brain shuts off and you start anew. Didn't take blows when his brain was soft and susceptible, and to more areas. Reckless shot. Combo of luck and skill for Moraes to deliver that knee when he meant for the kick. He timed him. I thought Moraes won his first fight. Maybe Cruz or Garbrandt for #1 contender while Dillashaw flirts with DJ some more. But when is it ever going to happen for the Terror Rivera? He's won 20 straight fights for God's sake. Still don't know if he's saleable as a title contender. Can't finish anyone and UFC is so spread out these days creating stars is tough.

Ortega is kind of in the same boat. And he brawls + finishes. Saw again last night he should try to do more of the latter because he can create openings with his jiu-jits whereas in the striking he's chasing until he finds something by opportunity. Yeah, that's usually just a means of not getting stuck on the fence for opponents, grabbing a headlock. But he pulled the head down and cranked. Initiate clinches and grappling more, dude. Then who knows. He may be the man to take out Holloway. Maybe waiting is the right play because I don't see a money fight for him otherwise.

cowboyronnie · Post #213 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:32 pm

Bernman wrote:I think the argument is that it's akin to a gi, which is illegal. But this was more impeding to his movement, to the point he was compelled to take them off between rounds. Knee encumbrances are terrible for sports. It's like you're giving yourself a sprained mcl.

It doesn't matter whether it worked out, he clearly was looking for a submission advantage by adding external aides to his body.

I hadn't noticed that he began to remove them. But, Redd, when he began the fight he had textured cloth sleaves on both ankles and both knees. Maximum coverage you could imagine. Where does that stop?

If you're looking to sink in a triangle and you're connecting a clothed ankle to the back of a clothed knee you're at a ridiculous advantage. Especially late in the fight.

Post #214 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:26 pm

Ortega should just go the Maia route and just go all out with the BJJ. He seems to just try and brawl for a few minutes then finally goes to his BJJ. Once that dude gets a hand on someone it's basically over, his chokes are special.

cowboyronnie · Post #215 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:00 am

REDDzone wrote:Ahh who to root for. Don't like rooting for juicers but also hate rooting for boring. Not that Cub himself is boring, just the prospect of him winning as a gatekeeper is boring.

Hmm. I didn't know Ortega had popped. Interesting that Kevin Casey and Andy Silva, both also Black House / Ed Soares fighters, have popped for the exact same steroid (drostanolone).

REDDzone · Post #216 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:17 am

Ortega popped twice iirc. Both of them are Helio sided Gracie fighters.

Also, didn't another dude pop for the same thing from Black House? I can't think of his name now but he was a Brazilian LHW.

Post #217 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:49 am

Speaking of steroids, why is it taking so long to hear anything on Jones?

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AirCanadaMouse · Post #218 » by **AirCanadaMouse** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:41 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Ortega should just go the Maia route and just go all out with the BJJ. He seems to just try and brawl for a few minutes then finally goes to his BJJ. Once that dude gets a hand on someone it's basically over, his chokes are special.

Just him baiting in his opponent to move inside more imo.

REDDzone · Post #219 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:34 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Speaking of steroids, why is it taking so long to hear anything on Jones?

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I think they honored his request to delay the hearing until February.

I read somewhere that if his team hadn't found the roid he popped for in some other supplement by now, its probably not happening.

REDDzone · Post #220 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:37 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:
Bernman wrote:I think the argument is that it's akin to a gi, which is illegal. But this was more impeding to his movement, to the point he was compelled to take them off between rounds. Knee encumbrances are terrible for sports. It's like you're giving yourself a sprained mcl.

It doesn't matter whether it worked out, he clearly was looking for a submission advantage by adding external aides to his body.

I hadn't noticed that he began to remove them. But, Redd, when he began the fight he had textured cloth sleaves on both ankles and both knees. Maximum coverage you could imagine. Where does that stop?

If you're looking to sink in a triangle and you're connecting a clothed ankle to the back of a clothed knee you're at a ridiculous advantage. Especially late in the fight.

If you're looking to stand and bang then having wraps and 4 oz of padding to protect your knuckles, plus rounds, plus refs who stand up fighters from mount....those are all ridiculous advantages.

If it was legitimately cloth then maybe I can see an argument. I don't have any issues with spats though.