Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[cdubbz]

Anyone who thinks Zion has a prayer needs to get their head examined or just stop talking about combat sports for the rest of their lives.

Dang. You’re no fun at all.

[dautjazz]

I am utterly dumbfounded at how lopsided this is for in favor of McGreror. Do people not realize Zion is twice his size and literately a walking slab of muscle?

Have you seen NBA players fight? For the most part it's swing and miss, swing and miss, etc. They aren't disciplined fighters. Unless Zion gets very lucky and knocks out McGregor with a perfect hit, I don't see this even being a contest.

[speedfiend]

Yeah, except the 6"6 guy is world class athlete and 270 lbs. So he's got size, reach...basically every advantage.

You know the training that goes into a NBA player, the hours of training everyday, the countless videos of every play made by opponents, and how to counter those plays, NBA players probably are thinking about how to put the ball into the basket from every possible situation 24/7/365.

Now you have a champion MMA fighter, basically the same thing. Hours of training everyday beating people up, countless videos of every punch/kick thrown/taken, different body position, how to attack and counter attacks. Pro MMA fighters at the top of their game probably thinking about how to knock the next opponent out while avoiding getting knocked out 24/7/365.

Now you put the 2 person into a situation that is a natural environment for the Pro MMA fighter, and what results do you expect? CM would move his body position from an straight rush from reflex, counter punch from reflex. He is trained to deal with this for hours and hours everyday of his life for decades. It's how he puts meals on the table.

CM is constantly in legal trouble outside of the ring because he is always looking for a fight, from anyone, no matter the size, athletic skill, or background. A person like that is always ready to take things down in a street fight. And you put 19 years old Zion, who has no fighting background, against a guy whos been fighting legally and illegally for decades, in a street fight. I hope Zion doesn't get straight killed.

[GreenBloodedC]

And for what it's worth, huge muscles would do you more harm than good in an actual fight.

Just look at all the great champions in boxing and mma/ufc. Rarely do you see a huge muscular guy at the top.

[Senor Chang]

Zion is probably one of the most physically gifted 280 lbs. men ever. There are weight classes because it simply wouldn't be fair to Mcgregor to fight a guy as big as Zion.

[Bullflip]

Zion is probably one of the most physically gifted 280 lbs. men ever. There are weight classes because it simply wouldn't be fair to Mcgregor to fight a guy as big as Zion. The same logic applies to Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris. Anderson Silva would probably kill them both.

That’s different because Silva is a trained fighter. Zion is not a trained fighter and would lose.

[Senor Chang]

Zion is probably one of the most physically gifted 280 lbs. men ever. There are weight classes because it simply wouldn't be fair to Mcgregor to fight a guy as big as Zion. The same logic applies to Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris. Anderson Silva would probably kill them both.

That’s different because Silva is a trained fighter. Zion is not a trained fighter and would lose.

yes i backed off my original stupid comment.

[BloodNinja]

Here are some Houston Rockets doing boxing training.

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Zion probably has the same laughable technique. McGregor would throw one kick to the knee and it's all over.

[BloodNinja]

And for what it's worth, huge muscles would do you more harm than good in an actual fight.

Just look at all the great champions in boxing and mma/ufc. Rarely do you see a huge muscular guy at the top.

Pudzianowski is a great example. Worlds Strongest Man winner but that doesn't serve much of a purpose in MMA.

[Jables]

It's a simple issue of reach and mass, McGregor is a twig compared to Zion. He's skipping FOUR weight classes, and they have those for a reason. But I know people mythologize professional fighters and UFC fans are kinda precious, so it's not a topic I'm going to bother with too much.

Yeah muscles would hurt Zion against Conor, the delusion is real, he's not fighting someone in his own class.

[TheBallsDeeper]

Skill-wise, it's like saying that Tyson Fury would beat Steph Curry in a basketball game one on one - because Tyson Fury is much taller, and Steph could not cope with that height.

Anyone who voted Zion has obviously never trained in any form of fighting/Martial Arts, and has definitely never fought someone even remotely skilled in fighting.

Zion vs McGregor would be over within 30 seconds (that allows for McGregor being cautious) - and McGregor isn't even that good compared to others.

[Sactowndog]

I am utterly dumbfounded at how lopsided this is for in favor of McGreror. Do people not realize Zion is twice his size and literately a walking slab of muscle?

McGregor is a professional fighter.

We have no clue if Zion is skilled in fighting.

At some point sheer size, weight and strength renders skill obsolete though. I think Zion falls into that category. That's just too much weight and strength moving around.

Could be wrong but I don't see McGregor making it out alive. lol

In a back-alley brawl McGregor would kick Zion in the nuts and the brawl would be over quickly.

[Duke4life831]

It's a simple issue of reach and mass, McGregor is a twig compared to Zion. He's skipping FOUR weight classes, and they have those for a reason. But I know people mythologize professional fighters and UFC fans are kinda precious, so it's not a topic I'm going to bother with too much.

Yeah muscles would hurt Zion against Conor, the delusion is real, he's not fighting someone in his own class.

There is a video in this thread of a fighter (the same size as Conor) knocking out a Texas Longhorn LB that was 240 pounds. If it comes out Zion's stepdad or his uncle or someone has been teaching him boxing since an early age, I think most people would choose Zion. But just look at that Rockets video of them boxing as a workout, its beyond ugly. Its beyond ugly because the vast majority of people have no clue how to actually throw a clean punch. Its either very slow and awkward, or just winging it.

Its not really people mythicizing Conor or MMA (most big time MMA fans aren't big Conor fans). Its understanding that the vast majority of people are horrible fighters and we are talking about a guy that has been training since he was 12 years old.

[chitownsalesmen]

Anyone who thinks Zion has a prayer needs to get their head examined or just stop talking about combat sports for the rest of their lives.

Dang. You’re no fun at all.

step in the ring with mcgrgor it'll be totally fun bro promise.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Zion is probably one of the most physically gifted 280 lbs. men ever. There are weight classes because it simply wouldn't be fair to Mcgregor to fight a guy as big as Zion.

There are weight classes for professional fighters because a trained 6'6" 240lbs Anthony Joshua or 6'9" 260lbs Tyson Fury would most likely kill welterweights if they fought them. That does not apply to Zion because he's not a trained fighter, the size difference is no bigger than the one David Haye faced when he fought Nikola Valuev, here's a picture of that size difference -

This is a real picture, Haye is 6'3 217 and Nikola is 7'0" 316, Haye won the fight.






And we've already seen big size differences in the early days of the MMA when there were essentially no weight classes, Royce Gracie at 6'0 175lbs fought a 6'8" 500lbs sumo wrestler and won.





Zion being physically gifted doesn't mean he can take a kick to the face, knee or stomach, it doesn't mean he'd be able to eat a straight left hand or even see it coming for that matter. The people who think that size is the only thing that matters in fights have never sparred a day in their lives, or haven't been in an actual 1 on 1 fight either.

[The Rodzilla]

Zion is probably one of the most physically gifted 280 lbs. men ever. There are weight classes because it simply wouldn't be fair to Mcgregor to fight a guy as big as Zion.

There are weight classes for professional fighters because a trained 6'6" 240lbs Anthony Joshua or 6'9" 260lbs Tyson Fury would most likely kill welterweights if they fought them. That does not apply to Zion because he's not a trained fighter, the size difference is no bigger than the one David Haye faced when he fought Nikola Valuev, here's a picture of that size difference -

This is a real picture, Haye is 6'3 217 and Nikola is 7'0" 316, Haye won the fight.






And we've already seen big size differences in the early days of the MMA when there were essentially no weight classes, Royce Gracie at 6'0 175lbs fought a 6'8" 500lbs sumo wrestler and won.





Zion being physically gifted doesn't mean he can take a kick to the face, knee or stomach, it doesn't mean he'd be able to eat a straight left hand or even see it coming for that matter. The people who think that size is the only thing that matters in fights have never sparred a day in their lives, or haven't been in an actual 1 on 1 fight either.

also Zangief was the easiest opponent on street fighter 2, even if i used chun li

[Ryoga Hibiki]

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on concrete Big Nog would have died instantly, just saying.
Probably McGregor would win, but don't underrate the importance of size

[getrichordie]

Zion would just eat McGregor alive.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

I’m a very big MMA fan, but Conor is like half his size. Zion would get his hands on him and it’d be over. It’s not like Conor could knock out someone as big or strong as Zion either. Not even close

[chitownsalesmen]

I’m a very big MMA fan, but Conor is like half his size. Zion would get his hands on him and it’d be over. It’s not like Conor could knock out someone as big or strong as Zion either. Not even close

lol the second mcgregor gets his hands on zion is the moment zion gets choked out or submitted