The Official Boxing Thread

Dry_Fish · Post #201 » by **Dry_Fish** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:13 pm

And cortez is doing another fight....

Post #202 » by **Rich Rane** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:15 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:Oh yeah... prediction time... Dr Steelhammer gets a KO in round 5.

It was a mean right cross. I felt he got up before the 10 and Cortez should've kept the fight going. Then again Thompson was taking some beatings right before it. Well, we've all seen Cortez do worse.

Who do you guys see him fighting next? I say Samuel Peter.

Blame Rasho · Post #203 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:37 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Oh yeah... prediction time... Dr Steelhammer gets a KO in round 5.

It was a mean right cross. I felt he got up before the 10 and Cortez should've kept the fight going. Then again Thompson was taking some beatings right before it. Well, we've all seen Cortez do worse.

Who do you guys see him fighting next? I say Samuel Peter.

I want him to fight Peter...

HBO was pimping him vs Valuev. I don't know about that, but I think it would make everyone(mainstream media) take notice. The legit champ vs the 7 foot hairy beast.

There is also loudmouth Haye....

I believe he has to fight Povlvikin next... but we will see if that happens.

I thought Thompson did a respectable job in the fight and he didn't look outclassed or outgunned until much later in the fight.

Cochulito · Post #204 » by **Cochulito** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:00 am

I am on a roll with my predictions, anyways anyone notice the best heavyweight from America is a Mexican?

Post #205 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:22 am

Blame Rasho wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Oh yeah... prediction time... Dr Steelhammer gets a KO in round 5.

It was a mean right cross. I felt he got up before the 10 and Cortez should've kept the fight going. Then again Thompson was taking some beatings right before it. Well, we've all seen Cortez do worse.

Who do you guys see him fighting next? I say Samuel Peter.

I want him to fight Peter...

HBO was pimping him vs Valuev. I don't know about that, but I think it would make everyone(mainstream media) take notice. The legit champ vs the 7 foot hairy beast.

There is also loudmouth Haye....

I believe he has to fight Povlvikin next... but we will see if that happens.

I thought Thompson did a respectable job in the fight and he didn't look outclassed or outgunned until much later in the fight.

To tell you the truth, I paused for a moment to see them at a weigh-in. It does have marketing potential, but with the way the Heavyweight division's been, I'd like for a unification. Chagaev's certainly not helping since that hepatitis scare and now the Achilles tendon tear. Haye has already started some internet commotion with that video of him talking to Klitschko at that mall, but he already stated he wouldn't fight Haye until he made a name for himself in the heavyweight division. Povetkin is his mandatory challenger for the IBF Title, but I think Merchant said it best that he was still only a good prospect. I believe the draw for that would either be the same or less than today's fight.

Well I just found out Vitali's coming back to fight Samuel Peter (I thought Merchant was saying Vitali would come back to fight Wladimir and I thought that was weird right away). Anyone giving Dr. Iron Fist a chance? He hasn't fought in 3-4 years I believe.

Cochulito · Post #206 » by **Cochulito** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:59 am

Chavez Jr had all he could handle against Matt Vanda. I thought he won a razor thin decision, but a lot of people think Vanda was robbed, crowd booed and threw **** in the ring.

Blame Rasho · Post #207 » by **Blame Rasho** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:16 pm

From WBC President Jose Sulaiman:

Regarding the WBC interim super featherweight world championship fight between Humberto Soto and Francisco Lorenzo, the WBC Board of Governors has voted for the following:

1. The World Boxing Council officially confirms its decision of NO CONTEST, which was rendered at ringside on June 28.

2. Soto and Lorenzo must fight again, after the time that Lorenzo’s medical suspension by the Nevada Boxing Commission’s medical board has ended on December 26, 2008, with an updated thorough medical examination of Lorenzo, and the commission’s approval for him to fight.

3. Due to the length of Lorenzo’s medical suspension, Soto will be approved to fight for the title if that fight is before the end of October, which is about 60 days before the end of Lorenzo’s suspension.

4. In spite of our friendly relationship with Lorenzo, the WBC is imposing on him a fine of $2,000 (U.S.) for his unsportsmanlike actions in the ring which were successful in influencing the referee’s decision.

The WBC will not allow this type of behavior to become an example for losing boxers who try to win on unethical and false pretenses. The $2,000 fine will be donated to a children’s hospital in the Dominican Republic, the home of Lorenzo, with the donation handled directly and personally by the Dominican Boxing Federation on behalf of the WBC.

5. The present double WBC world champion at lightweight and super featherweight, Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines, must announce by July 28 which title he has decided to keep. If he decides to relinquish the lightweight division title and keep the super featherweight title, Soto must fight Pacquiao for the WBC super featherweight world title, with Lorenzo fighting the winner.

The WBC Board of Governors believes that its ruling, expressed above, is the least controversial possible. This is the official decision rendered by a majority vote of the Board of Governors, to which I am fully committed as President.

I would like to have the liberty of expressing my personal feelings, as well as my feelings as WBC president, that Humberto Soto has been the victim of one of the most unfair decisions that I have seen in my 57 years as a boxing commissioner, which have been devoted to a life-long struggle for justice. The world saw his tremendous performance against Lorenzo for the entire fight.
However, I respect the WBC Board of Governors’ ruling, done in the spirit of justice, for the least controversial and best solution of this matter.

I would like to finish by expressing my deepest pride and honor to be a part of the exemplary, perservering and passionate group of people integrated in the WBC, who are totally dedicated to the sport that they love without receiving any compensatio

Amazing that the WBC is actually doing something that is correct...

cowboyronnie · Post #208 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:22 am

7-16- FSN – 8PM
Hasim Rahman(45-6-2) vs James Toney (70-6-3)

I don't care if it turns out to be horrible boxing, Toney has the greatest character in the sport.

Blame Rasho · Post #209 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:42 am

cowboyronnie wrote:7-16- FSN – 8PM
Hasim Rahman(45-6-2) vs James Toney (70-6-3)

I don't care if it turns out to be horrible boxing, Toney has the greatest character in the sport.

I just want to see the post fight interview from him.

Blame Rasho · Post #210 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:38 am

By Mark Vester

The HBO pay-per-view on October 11, headlined by Shane Mosley vs. Ricardo Mayorga, looks like it's going to take a beating that Saturday night. Showtime has lined up one of the biggest doubleheaders to go head to head with a fight that has absolutely no business on pay-per-view television.

On tape delay from Germany will be the anticipated heavyweight showdown between WBC heavyweight champion Samuel Peter and the returning Vitali Klitschko. One of the most important fights in the heavyweight division. The outcome will shape the direction of the heavyweight division.

In the main event will be the live broadcast of Antonio Tarver defending his IBF light heavyweight title against unbeaten Chad Dawson, who recently vacated his WBC belt to make the bout. Tarver has always been regarded as a one-hit wonder who lives off his knockout win over Roy Jones Jr. This will be his chance to prove people wrong. Dawson struggled is his last fight with Glen Johnson, he receives a second chance to rise to the occasion with the fighter he's been calling out for a while

Dry_Fish · Post #211 » by **Dry_Fish** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:10 am

down with PPV, boo boo

Dry_Fish · Post #212 » by **Dry_Fish** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:42 am

That Toney-Rahman fight ending was abrupt. I've seem worst cut but then again I'm not in the ring. I never have a problem with a stoppage by a doctor.

Blame Rasho · Post #213 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:48 am

Oh god...

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3492875

Welterweight Oscar Diaz, who collapsed in his corner after the 10th round of a TKO loss to Delvin Rodriguez on Wednesday night and was rushed to University Medical Center in San Antonio in critical condition, was being taken into surgery to relieve swelling on his brain early Thursday.

"He's got swelling and bleeding on the brain, he's unconscious and on a ventilator," Ron Katz of Rodriguez promoter Star Boxing told ESPN.com.

Katz said Donna Duva Brooks of Hall of Fame Promotions, Diaz's promoter, was at the hospital with Diaz. Katz said she told him that Diaz was being taken into surgery.

"It's not good. Obviously, he's in all of our prayers," Katz said.

Fighting in front of his hometown fans at San Antonio's Municipal Auditorium, Diaz appeared to be trailing badly in the fight. His right eye was swollen almost completely shut in the main event of the ESPN2-televised "Wednesday Night Fights."

Just before the 11th round began, Diaz, who was standing in his corner receiving instructions from trainer Tommy Brooks, buckled and passed out. Medical personnel came to his side immediately and within a few minutes he was on a stretcher and being taken to a waiting ambulance.

"When he left the ring, he was completely stationary and he didn't look good," said Star Boxing chief Joe DeGuardia. "They couldn't get him to respond. They cleared a path right away and took him to the hospital."

It had been a grueling, physical fight between Diaz (26-3, 12 KOs), 25, and Rodriguez (23-2-1, 14 KOs), 28, of Danbury, Conn. That kind of fight was nothing new for Diaz, a brawler who has been in several hard fights, none more difficult than an 11th-round TKO loss to Golden Johnson on Nov. 10, 2006.

Diaz took enormous punishment in the fight before it was stopped. He returned eight months later to face Juan Manuel Buendia, but the fight ended in a first-round no contest because of an accidental head butt.

Diaz then won a unanimous eight-round decision against Roberto Valenzuela in May to set up the fight with Rodriguez for the vacant regional USBA 147-pound title.

Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

Cochulito · Post #214 » by **Cochulito** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:40 pm

that was a scary scary fight. I hope hes ok. I saw the fight and he did not look good at all. I am not up to date with all my medical terminology, so what does all that mean? I know he does have brain bleeding.

Dry_Fish · Post #215 » by **Dry_Fish** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:08 pm

How did Diaz look in the 10 round? Was he showing any signs? (pardon my non-medical background if bleeding in the brain is sudden)

Blame Rasho · Post #216 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:42 pm

I didn't see the fight... I went out out...

Well a brainbleed is serious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdural_hematoma

Levander Johnson died from exact same thing when he faced Jesus Chavez.

I don't know what his corner was thinking but by all reports they were negligent of their fighter.

Cochulito · Post #217 » by **Cochulito** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:05 pm

Diaz had an all star corner, Souza, Milano, Brooks. Maybe they saw something we didn't

Post #218 » by **Rich Rane** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:13 am

With Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones Jr, Kelly Pavlik could not find a meaningful opponent for his middleweight championship. He has decided to move up in weight to fight Bernard Hopkins on October 18 in Atlantic City, NJ.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3494448

Let the Calzaghe bashing continue...

cowboyronnie · Post #219 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:20 am

Dry_Fish wrote:That Toney-Rahman fight ending was abrupt. I've seem worst cut but then again I'm not in the ring. I never have a problem with a stoppage by a doctor.

But ruling it a TKO?????????

Completely (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

Cochulito · Post #220 » by **Cochulito** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:23 am

I think it shoudl be a ko on with this reason.

Rahman said he couldnt see so that should be his decision on whether he wants to continue. If he dosent, imo it should be a tko for not answering the bell or quitting on his stool. There have been cuts 100 times worse that have gone the distance